diff --git a/book/2006-09.txt b/book/2006-09.txt index 44c104b..dd2159f 100644 --- a/book/2006-09.txt +++ b/book/2006-09.txt @@ -10448,7 +10448,7 @@ To: Waqar Malik From: Camm Maguire Date: 07 Sep 2006 16:58:46 -0400 Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Aurelien Chanudet + Aurelien Chanudet Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) @@ -10789,7 +10789,7 @@ Subject: re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 07 Sep 2006 16:18:17 -0500 Cc: Waqar Malik , list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org, Aurelien Chanudet + gcl-devel@gnu.org, Aurelien Chanudet Camm Maguire writes: @@ -11135,7 +11135,7 @@ From: Waqar Malik Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:09:06 -0500 To: Camm Maguire Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Aurelien Chanudet + Aurelien Chanudet Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) @@ -11456,7 +11456,7 @@ Subject: re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully From: Camm Maguire Date: 07 Sep 2006 22:01:19 -0400 Cc: Waqar Malik , list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org, Aurelien Chanudet + gcl-devel@gnu.org, Aurelien Chanudet Greetings! @@ -12261,7 +12261,7 @@ To: Waqar Malik From: Camm Maguire Date: 08 Sep 2006 12:15:13 -0400 Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - Aurelien Chanudet + Aurelien Chanudet Subject: Re: [SAGEdev] Xcode and Fink (was: Hopefully stupid question) diff --git a/book/2006-11.txt b/book/2006-11.txt index 166fe9a..61d546a 100644 --- a/book/2006-11.txt +++ b/book/2006-11.txt @@ -1,41 +1,13 @@ \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfFKM-0007FR-Vr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:36:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfFKK-0007DF-D9 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:36:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfFKH-0007BP-Jc - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:36:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfFKH-0007BH-Ef - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:36:13 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfFKH-0003Xl-9C - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:36:13 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 7DEED68BB7; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 07:36:12 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id B10FD68B13; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 07:36:11 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 07:36:11 -0500 -Thread-Topic: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb88o2trdU9z1U9SCqgtmDJYe5tWwAv2pJg From: Bill Page -To: Camm Maguire, - "Bill Page" Bill Page -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +To: Camm Maguire, Bill Page Subject: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Camm, On Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:43 AM you wrote: ->=20 +> > Greetings, and thanks! OK, please try it now, I think it should be > fixed. Please let me know if problems persist. > @@ -44,7 +16,7 @@ I have rebuilt gcl and restarted the build of Axiom from scratch. Ooops! Looks like the problem has shifted to another symbol. :-( -...=20 +... Compiling /home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/axiom.build-improvements/obj/powerpc-app le-darwin6.8/interp/g-util.lsp. @@ -60,35 +32,11 @@ make[1]: *** [interp/stamp] Error 2 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 ppc-osx3:~/osx/axiom.build-improvements $ --------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHN6-0002te-FJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 09:47:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHN4-0002s1-Ue - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 09:47:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHN0-0002lE-AG - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 09:47:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHN0-0002kx-51; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 09:47:10 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GfHN0-00050N-3a; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 09:47:10 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfHMn-00055S-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 09:46:57 -0500 -To: Bill Page -From: Camm Maguire Date: 01 Nov 2006 09:46:57 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Greetings, and thanks so much! @@ -141,49 +89,12 @@ before the (second) call to bsearch. I'll be leaving town tomorrow afternoon until Sunday, but would be happy to fix this quickly today if possible. -Take care, - - -> -------- -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHpq-0007tC-4q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:16:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHpo-0007qQ-Eg - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:16:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHpl-0007kP-LS - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:16:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfHpl-0007k6-I2 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:16:53 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfHpl-0000Yk-CX - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:16:53 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfHpD-0005Fl-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:16:19 -0500 -To: Colin Turner - <54k62mnbri.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <4546412E.4020904@ulster.ac.uk> -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 01 Nov 2006 10:16:19 -0500 -Cc: list, Bill Page, - control@bugs.debian.org, 328480@bugs.debian.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Colin Turner Subject: Re: Bug#328480: axiom: Still seems to be a problem +Cc: Bill Page reopen 328480 forwarded 328480 list @@ -257,62 +168,22 @@ Fellow axiom developers -- any ideas here? Take care, > I'll keep searching the wiki. Thanks for the help. -> -> CT. -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHzq-0003Bk-Fq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:27:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHzo-00039J-Mt - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:27:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfHzj-0002yc-MT - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:27:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfHzj-0002yQ-Gr - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:27:11 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfHzj-0002tY-7V - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:27:11 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id A8FBC68D63; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 10:27:10 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 4AD9B68D8E; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 10:27:09 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" +\start Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 10:27:11 -0500 -Thread-Topic: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb9xJrOmWUccR/RQUmUCQnI+UAUrgABGLVw From: Bill Page -To: Camm Maguire, - Bill Page -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +To: Camm Maguire Subject: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Camm,=20 +Camm, On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:47 AM you wrote: > Bill Page wrote: > > Ooops! Looks like the problem has shifted to another symbol. :-( -> >=20 -> > ...=20 +> > +> > ... > > Compiling -> >=20 +> > > /home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/axiom.build-improvements/obj/powerpc-app > > le-darwin6.8/interp/g-util.lsp. > > ...skipping... @@ -326,17 +197,17 @@ On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:47 AM you wrote: > > make[1]: *** [interp/stamp] Error 2 > > make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > ppc-osx3:~/osx/axiom.build-improvements $ -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > Sigh. As usual, I cannot reproduce on the mac to which I have > access. I'm assuming you see the same issue with ->=20 +> > (defun foo (x) (declare (long-float x)) (the long-float (sqrt x))) > (compile 'foo) ->=20 +> > Am also assuming that the read-byte test I posted earlier now -> passes.=20 ->=20 +> passes. +> Yes. It seems that problem might be that 'sqrt' does not appear in plt.h. So I added a call to sqrt(d); in plttest.c @@ -349,42 +220,17 @@ Make sense? > the MY_PLT list in plt.h should have one _ stripped, and that the > string passed to my_plt should do the strip in the stn() C macro right > before the (second) call to bsearch. ->=20 +> > I'll be leaving town tomorrow afternoon until Sunday, but would be > happy to fix this quickly today if possible. ->=20 +> I will let you know. -Thanks. - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfK2L-00014t-HB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:38:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfK2I-000119-Pj - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:37:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfK2D-0000sW-Jw - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:37:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfK2D-0000sG-EN; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:37:53 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GfK2D-0006di-8S; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:37:53 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfK2A-0005u8-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:37:50 -0500 -To: Bill Page -From: Camm Maguire Date: 01 Nov 2006 12:37:50 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Greetings! @@ -457,63 +303,21 @@ Take care, > > > > I will let you know. -> -> Thanks. -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKCY-0002Q3-Ou - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:48:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKCW-0002Mh-Ko - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:48:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKCS-0002ET-JN - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:48:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfKCS-0002E4-9b - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:48:28 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfKCS-0008MI-8T - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:48:28 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id BDB1E65A05; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 12:47:34 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 85CB4653FE; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 12:47:28 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" +\start Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 12:47:30 -0500 -Thread-Topic: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb9xJrOmWUccR/RQUmUCQnI+UAUrgABGLVwAARwFNA= From: Bill Page To: Camm Maguire -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Subject: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Camm,=20 +Camm, On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:27 AM I wrote: > ... > It seems that problem might be that 'sqrt' does not appear in > plt.h. So I added a call to sqrt(d); in plttest.c and I am > running it again. -> ...=20 +> ... Ok, with your earlier change plus adding 'sqrt(d);' to plttest.c that did it! At least I think so. The Axiom build is still @@ -568,40 +372,12 @@ Bill Page. PS. Does anyone want me to try an gcl-based Maxima build on this OSX machine? - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKRI-0005dh-Pm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:03:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKRH-0005dK-BC - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:03:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKRC-0005d0-Kl - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:03:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfKRC-0005cw-Gg - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:03:42 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfKRC-0004c5-0S - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:03:42 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GfKQP-0005Ze-Nl; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:02:53 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GfKQP-0001IP-LF; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:02:53 +0100 +Date: 01 Nov 2006 19:02:53 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Bill Page, Antoine Hersen Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 01 Nov 2006 19:02:53 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - gcl-devel@gnu.org +Cc: Camm Maguire Bill Page writes: @@ -622,38 +398,12 @@ Bill Page writes: WOW, that's cool! Axiom on the Mac! - - - - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKeH-0004xe-Pf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:17:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKeF-0004us-SR - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:17:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKeA-0004oo-RS - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:17:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfKeA-0004oc-O9 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:17:06 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfKeA-0006LZ-Ej - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:17:06 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfKdI-0004JA-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:16:12 +0100 -To: list Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:16:12 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Camm Maguire +To: list Subject: sock_get_string_buf +Cc: Camm Maguire I again had problem with "sock_get_string_buf": trying to use hypertex functions which require Axiom (for example search or tutorial input) @@ -702,45 +452,11 @@ diff -ru pp/build-improvements/src/interp/sockio.lisp.pamphlet build-improvement (defentry sock_get_float (int) (double "sock_get_float")) (defentry sock_send_float (int double) (int "sock_send_float")) - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKic-0005aX-P4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:21:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKia-0005V2-O5 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:21:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfKiR-00054c-1B - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:21:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfKiQ-00054P-P8 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:21:30 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfKiQ-0006mH-Fo - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:21:30 -0500 -Received: (qmail 6834 invoked by uid 7797); 1 Nov 2006 18:18:25 -0000 -Received: from 136.145.54.123 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(136.145.54.123):. - Processed in 0.029032 secs); 01 Nov 2006 18:18:25 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?136.145.54.123?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@136.145.54.123) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 1 Nov 2006 18:18:25 -0000 +\start Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:23:04 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <9q1won59ki.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> Martin Rubey wrote: @@ -752,37 +468,11 @@ like to try building axiom on them as well. Are these changes in the build-improvements branch? --- -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -UPR Bioinformatics Resource Center -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfL5j-0007ye-DZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:45:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfL5g-0007w2-Ku - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:45:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfL5f-0007ux-L1 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:45:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfL5f-0007ub-8g - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:45:31 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfL5f-0002Yb-5G - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:45:31 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfL4j-0006Oy-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:44:33 +0100 -Subject: Re: silver--1--patch-10 -To: Tim Daly Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:44:33 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: silver--1--patch-10 > axiom--silver--1--patch-10 is available > @@ -794,60 +484,27 @@ Cc: list You should add that 'asq' does not work with uncompressed databases. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfLK6-0003F8-Nw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:00:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfLK4-0003Cy-U0 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:00:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfLK1-00035s-Cv - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:00:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfLK1-00035m-97 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:00:21 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfLK0-0006v5-Ox - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:00:20 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 31FA969025; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:00:20 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id D4BBD68FF1; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:00:18 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +\start Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:00:10 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb94poU7icE3eYRR1GnHnHN31jbygAA/Tbw From: Bill Page -To: "Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga" -Cc: list +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:23 PM Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga wrote: ->=20 +> > Martin Rubey wrote: ->=20 +> > > WOW, that's cool! Axiom on the Mac! -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > I have PowerPC and Intel Macs running OS X 10.4.8 with fink, and > I'd like to try building axiom on them as well. Great! ->=20 +> > Are these changes in the build-improvements branch? ->=20 +> No, not everything is in build-improvements yet - give us a few more hours. :-) @@ -864,40 +521,15 @@ $ cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/gcl -z9 export \ and then do $ cd gcl-2.6.8pre -$ ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local +$ ./configure --prefix=/usr/local $ make Ask if you need mor details. Let us know how it works. -Thanks. - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfLbC-0003Kq-RY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:18:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfLb9-0003IZ-T8 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:18:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfLb5-0003Et-NG - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:18:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfLb5-0003E5-9v - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:17:59 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfLb5-0002FJ-3D - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:17:59 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfLaF-0007nH-00 - for ; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:17:07 +0100 -To: list Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 20:17:07 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: util.ht Axiom sources contain two copies of 'util.ht': one is @@ -915,34 +547,10 @@ us useless (it should be re-created by the build process) and potentially confusing (it may easily get out of date), so it should be also removed from the repository. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfNSh-0002ha-Bh - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:17:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfNSg-0002gy-73 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:17:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfNSd-0002du-O8 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:17:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfNSd-0002dh-JZ - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:17:23 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfNSd-0007RT-GD - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:17:23 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfNS7-0007aJ-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:16:51 -0500 -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 01 Nov 2006 16:16:51 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Camm Maguire +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: sock_get_string_buf Greetings, and thanks so much! @@ -1024,43 +632,11 @@ Take care, > (defentry sock_get_float (int) (double "sock_get_float")) > (defentry sock_send_float (int double) (int "sock_send_float")) > -> -> -- -> Waldek Hebisch -> Waldek Hebisch -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfOSb-0000si-N1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:21:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfOSa-0000r2-IV - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:21:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfOSZ-0000ph-Gt - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:21:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfOSZ-0000pU-9Q - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:21:23 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfOSY-0008RA-TP - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:21:23 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfORi-0004N4-00 - for ; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:20:30 +0100 -To: list +\start Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 23:20:30 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: hypertex and uses info All versions of hypertex that I used crashed (or maybe showed nothing) @@ -1230,42 +806,16 @@ diff -ru build-improvements.pp/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet build-improvements/ #+:AKCL (if (library-file filearg) --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfOk6-0002Ii-O6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:39:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfOk4-0002HM-VC - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:39:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfOk2-0002GU-2t - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:39:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfOk1-0002GR-QI - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:39:25 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.28] (helo=smtp-msa-out03.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfOk1-0003BY-L1 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:39:25 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-87-144.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-87-144.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.28.144]) - by mwinf0301.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 78EC41C00548; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 23:38:58 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Waldek Hebisch +\start Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:38:47 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info Le mercredi 01 novembre 2006 =E0 23:20 +0100, Waldek Hebisch a =E9crit : [...] - =20 + > diff -ru build-improvements.pp/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet build-impr= ovements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet > --- build-improvements.pp/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet 2006-11-01 19:3= @@ -1273,9 +823,9 @@ ovements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet > +++ build-improvements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet 2006-11-01 19:36:0= 0.000000000 +0100 > @@ -448,17 +448,23 @@ -> :test #'string=3D)=20 -> :test #'string=3D)))) -> =20 +> :test #'string=) +> :test #'string=)))) +> > +(defun axiom-probe-file (file) > + (if (equal (|directoryp| file) -1) > + nil @@ -1288,13 +838,13 @@ ovements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet > (dirname (pathname-directory filename)) > (ft (pathname-type filename)) > (dirs (get-directory-list ft)) -> - (newfn nil)) =20 +> - (newfn nil)) > + (newfn nil)) > (if (or (null dirname) (eqcar dirname :relative)) > (dolist (dir dirs (probe-name filename)) -> (when=20 -> - (probe-file=20 -> + (axiom-probe-file=20 +> (when +> - (probe-file +> + (axiom-probe-file > (setq newfn (concatenate 'string dir filename))) > (return newfn))) > (probe-name filename)))) @@ -1313,7 +863,7 @@ Why not modifying and using probe-name ? Actually I use: @@ -436,7 +436,11 @@ (namestring (merge-pathnames (make-filename filearg filetype)))) -=20 + (defun probe-name (file) - (if (probe-file file) (namestring file) nil)) + (cond @@ -1321,16 +871,16 @@ Why not modifying and using probe-name ? Actually I use: + ((probe-file file) file) + ((eql (|directoryp| file) 1) (namestring (truename file))) + (t nil))) -=20 + (defun get-directory-list (ft &aux (cd (namestring $current-directory))) - (cond ((member ft '("NRLIB" "DAASE" "EXPOSED") :test #'string=3D) + (cond ((member ft '("NRLIB" "DAASE" "EXPOSED") :test #'string=) @@ -457,8 +461,8 @@ - (newfn nil)) =20 + (newfn nil)) (if (or (null dirname) (eqcar dirname :relative)) (dolist (dir dirs (probe-name filename)) -- (when=20 -- (probe-file=20 +- (when +- (probe-file + (when + (probe-name (setq newfn (concatenate 'string dir filename))) @@ -1343,38 +893,17 @@ Greg PS: For $erase (see another mail) I directly use directoryp. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPCz-0002kF-2R - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:09:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPCx-0002gR-1U - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:09:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPCv-0002d4-E9 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:09:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPCu-0002cV-P9 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:09:16 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfPCu-0000BM-6Q - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:09:16 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfPC3-0006sy-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:08:23 +0100 -Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info -To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 00:08:23 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > Le mercredi 01 novembre 2006 ? 23:20 +0100, Waldek Hebisch a =E9crit : ->=20 +> > [...] -> =20 +> > > diff -ru build-improvements.pp/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet build-impr= ovements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet > > --- build-improvements.pp/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet 2006-11-01 19:3= @@ -1382,9 +911,9 @@ ovements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet > > +++ build-improvements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet 2006-11-01 19:36:0= 0.000000000 +0100 > > @@ -448,17 +448,23 @@ -> > :test #'string=3D)=20 -> > :test #'string=3D)))) -> > =20 +> > :test #'string=) +> > :test #'string=)))) +> > > > +(defun axiom-probe-file (file) > > + (if (equal (|directoryp| file) -1) > > + nil @@ -1397,13 +926,13 @@ ovements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet > > (dirname (pathname-directory filename)) > > (ft (pathname-type filename)) > > (dirs (get-directory-list ft)) -> > - (newfn nil)) =20 +> > - (newfn nil)) > > + (newfn nil)) > > (if (or (null dirname) (eqcar dirname :relative)) > > (dolist (dir dirs (probe-name filename)) -> > (when=20 -> > - (probe-file=20 -> > + (axiom-probe-file=20 +> > (when +> > - (probe-file +> > + (axiom-probe-file > > (setq newfn (concatenate 'string dir filename))) > > (return newfn))) > > (probe-name filename)))) @@ -1416,13 +945,13 @@ ovements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet > > #+:CCL (delete-file filearg) > > #+:AKCL > > (if (library-file filearg) ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > Why not modifying and using probe-name ? Actually I use: ->=20 +> > @@ -436,7 +436,11 @@ > (namestring (merge-pathnames (make-filename filearg filetype)))) -> =20 +> > (defun probe-name (file) > - (if (probe-file file) (namestring file) nil)) > + (cond @@ -1430,28 +959,28 @@ ovements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet > + ((probe-file file) file) > + ((eql (|directoryp| file) 1) (namestring (truename file))) > + (t nil))) -> =20 +> > (defun get-directory-list (ft &aux (cd (namestring > $current-directory))) -> (cond ((member ft '("NRLIB" "DAASE" "EXPOSED") :test #'string=3D) +> (cond ((member ft '("NRLIB" "DAASE" "EXPOSED") :test #'string=) > @@ -457,8 +461,8 @@ -> (newfn nil)) =20 +> (newfn nil)) > (if (or (null dirname) (eqcar dirname :relative)) > (dolist (dir dirs (probe-name filename)) -> - (when=20 -> - (probe-file=20 +> - (when +> - (probe-file > + (when > + (probe-name > (setq newfn (concatenate 'string dir filename))) > (return newfn))) > (probe-name filename)))) ->=20 +> > It's just what I use, not that I disagree. ->=20 +> > Greg ->=20 +> > PS: For $erase (see another mail) I directly use directoryp. -=20 + No very strong reason. However: 1) 'axiom-probe-file' is intended to be good replacement for 'probe-file'. @@ -1464,55 +993,22 @@ No very strong reason. However: 3) 'probe-name' is doing a lot of extra work (calls 'probe-file' first, then calls 'namestring' -Concerning erase: I would prefer to limit use of 'directoryp':=20 +Concerning erase: I would prefer to limit use of 'directoryp': something which has name endig in 'p' should return a boolean. What 'directoryp' returns is unexepected, so wide use of 'directoryp' would make interpreter code hareder to read. ---=20 - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPUk-0000iU-5a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:27:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPUi-0000gD-Ev - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:27:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPUf-0000d0-CZ - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:27:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPUf-0000cg-7g - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:27:37 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfP8U-0007o3-6D - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:04:42 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 3C4E968B41; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:04:41 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 6B7B868A16; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:04:39 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +\start Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:04:51 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb94BWR5NUjf64aQ8eBmaRQD9ChwAAJ3yWQ From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey -Cc: gcl-devel@gnu.org, Camm Maguire, - list +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +Cc: Camm Maguire On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:03 PM Martin Rubey wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > WOW, that's cool! Axiom on the Mac! ->=20 +> Well, the build of AXIOMsys completed successfully. You can download a console-only version of Axiom for native MAC OSX 10 @@ -1527,8 +1023,8 @@ As usual, untar it into a convenient place like /usr/local and then setup the AXIOM and PATH variables like this: - $ export AXIOM=3D/usr/local/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 - $ export PATH=3D$AXIOM/bin:$PATH + $ export AXIOM=/usr/local/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 + $ export PATH=$AXIOM/bin:$PATH and start Axiom like this: @@ -1558,33 +1054,10 @@ available. I look forward to some comments from MAC users! :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPXB-0003rs-4B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:30:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPX9-0003oh-Bc - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:30:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPX7-0003ki-Eb - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:30:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPX6-0003jn-Qk; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:30:08 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GfPX6-0003kW-Hm; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:30:08 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfPWt-0005Is-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:29:55 -0500 -To: Bill Page -From: Camm Maguire Date: 01 Nov 2006 18:29:55 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Greetings! @@ -1671,49 +1144,11 @@ I am concluding that with the possible exception of fc6, gcl 2.6.8 is ready vis a vis axiom. It would be most helpful if someone could confirm the Fedora status for me. -Take care, - -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPaE-0000gX-6B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:33:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPaC-0000eh-4x - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:33:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPaA-0000do-Gb - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:33:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPaA-0000dY-AP - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:33:18 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfPaA-00048U-40 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:33:18 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GfPa8-0007tX-KH; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:33:16 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GfPa8-0003Tb-I0; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:33:16 +0100 +\start +Date: 02 Nov 2006 00:33:20 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 02 Nov 2006 00:33:20 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -1737,33 +1172,10 @@ Does this mean that "uses" works now? If so, I have to get build improvements immediately! -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPbg-0002ap-O1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:34:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPbe-0002XE-Q9 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:34:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPbb-0002R7-5O - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:34:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPba-0002Qj-V9 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:34:47 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfPba-0004JS-K9 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:34:47 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfPab-0000TM-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:33:45 +0100 -To: Camm Maguire Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 00:33:45 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: sock_get_string_buf > Greetings, and thanks so much! @@ -1839,35 +1251,11 @@ callbacks from C to Lisp). If (as I hope) GCL will not trigger garbage collection form a signal handler, keeping strings in relocatable memory should be safe. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPgO-00068I-5v - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:39:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPgM-000646-Ev - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:39:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPgJ-0005vJ-T8 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:39:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPgJ-0005ug-JE - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:39:39 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfPgJ-0005VQ-Cb - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:39:39 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfPfK-0000WR-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:38:38 +0100 -Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info -To: Martin Rubey +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 00:38:38 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info > Waldek Hebisch writes: > @@ -1894,42 +1282,16 @@ Cc: list With the patch yes (ATM the patch is not commited). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPqL-0001cK-Ke - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:50:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPqJ-0001b0-Uv - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:50:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPqI-0001YN-5O - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:49:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPqI-0001YG-1y - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:49:58 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.30] (helo=smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfPqI-0007F8-2q - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:49:58 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-87-144.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-87-144.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.28.144]) - by mwinf0112.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 02D711C00607; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 00:49:32 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Waldek Hebisch +\start Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:48:56 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info Le jeudi 02 novembre 2006 =E0 00:08 +0100, Waldek Hebisch a =E9crit : [...] > No very strong reason. However: ->=20 +> > 1) 'axiom-probe-file' is intended to be good replacement for 'probe-fil= e'. > More precisely, Axiom uses directories to implement what Microsoft @@ -1950,7 +1312,7 @@ As far as I know probe-name is only used in nlib.lisp.pamphlet. Yes, and namestring is not necessary. -> Concerning erase: I would prefer to limit use of 'directoryp':=20 +> Concerning erase: I would prefer to limit use of 'directoryp': > something which has name endig in 'p' should return a boolean. > What 'directoryp' returns is unexepected, so wide use of 'directoryp' > would make interpreter code hareder to read. @@ -1959,45 +1321,13 @@ Yes, not the lisp convention. Anyway these things need to be fixed, no matter for me how this will be done. Thank you so much (as Martin implicitly says :-). I am, as Martin, -a Hyperdoc adept.=20 - -Greg - - - +a Hyperdoc adept. \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPuc-00048i-PX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:54:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPua-000481-Sf - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:54:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfPuY-000472-Ao - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:54:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfPuY-00046y-5y - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:54:22 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfPuY-00088u-8E - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:54:22 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E40C40F09 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 00:53:29 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA1Nn566026304 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 00:49:07 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA1Nn59e026303; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 00:49:05 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 02 Nov 2006 00:49:05 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: list Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Nov 2006 00:49:05 +0100 Bill Page writes: @@ -2012,52 +1342,21 @@ Bill Page writes: I never quite understood why readline needs to be replaced. Do you know? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQ5S-0000J7-RT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:05:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQ5R-0000Ff-Ay - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:05:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQ5Q-0000Ew-Ki - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:05:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQ5Q-0000Eh-Ga - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:05:36 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQ5P-00030R-Tv - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:05:36 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 46CCC6927D; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:05:35 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id B36A26919C; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:05:33 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:05:52 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb+ERa+caVitf6RTjKOjRLC6Y+xLwAACiSg From: Bill Page To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:49 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > | ... Also native MAC OSX10 apparently does not > | have support for the pts virtual terminal interface so it is > | not possible yet to compile clef (the replacement for readline). ->=20 -> I never quite understood why readline needs to be replaced. =20 +> +> I never quite understood why readline needs to be replaced. > Do you know? ->=20 +> I think the foremost reason is that clef (aka. "edible") was part of Axiom long before readline existed. @@ -2078,43 +1377,12 @@ other hand, readline can be a pain sometimes when you are trying to drive a program through a pipe and/or pty interface... so it is desirable also to be able to disable readline also. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQ79-0001x9-AN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:07:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQ77-0001wM-PD - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:07:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQ75-0001vo-0A - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:07:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQ74-0001vl-Sw - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:07:18 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQ74-0003Ze-GI - for list; 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Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:04:22 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 02 Nov 2006 01:04:21 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Nov 2006 01:04:21 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -2213,43 +1450,11 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: Then directoryp should be probably fixed. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQCJ-0005B4-SR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:12:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQCG-000597-Qu - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:12:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQCE-00057w-Ps - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:12:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQCE-00057l-4c - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:12:38 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQCE-0004WS-0A - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:12:38 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FBC40F5B; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:12:35 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA208BKa026718; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:08:13 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA208BPY026717; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:08:11 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info - <1162424937.3217.38.camel@ellipse> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 02 Nov 2006 01:08:11 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info Vanuxem Gr=E9gory Gregory Vanuxem writes: @@ -2259,39 +1464,16 @@ Vanuxem Gr=E9gory Gregory Vanuxem writes: | done. Yes. I would like to see those fixed, instead of being worke-around -by bits-n-pieces.=20=20 +by bits-n-pieces. I'm no adept of don't touch it because "it works." That is how the source code gets bit-rotten - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQHN-0000Ur-DK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:17:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQHL-0000Ow-3l - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:17:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQHK-0000Mt-15 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:17:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQHJ-0000Mn-Qt - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:17:53 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQHJ-0005D5-Li - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:17:53 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfQGS-0003GC-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 01:17:00 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:17:00 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 > Bill Page writes: > @@ -2325,44 +1507,11 @@ It may do it in slightly different way, but quite a lot of unix programs (beggining with Xterm) would brake without pty's. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQME-00009l-JT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:22:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQMC-000080-U7 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:22:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQMC-00006h-4z - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:22:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQMB-00006S-VV - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:22:56 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQMB-0005tf-RE - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:22:56 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D64540E22; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:22:53 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA20ITp5026932; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:18:31 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA20ITXo026931; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:18:29 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 02 Nov 2006 01:18:29 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Nov 2006 01:18:29 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -2425,50 +1574,19 @@ options. But, building Axiom as we currently do, I have We have to investigate that case. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQNG-0001Hm-CK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:24:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQNE-0001FC-Rz - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:24:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQND-0001D3-Ge - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:23:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQND-0001Cv-DU - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:23:59 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQNC-00065F-VR - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:23:59 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 49C86692C9; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:23:58 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 83FFB692A7; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:23:57 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:24:19 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb+FF0D2dTqqZD4T7GeO8ObPloAiwAAEWSw From: Bill Page -To: "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:17 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > BTW: I do not belive that MACOSX does not support pty's. > It may do it in slightly different way, but quite a lot > of unix programs (beggining with Xterm) would brake > without pty's. ->=20 +> I would be glad to hear more information about this. I found several references on the web stating clearly that @@ -2482,45 +1600,11 @@ available time. It would be greate if someone could share their knowledge and experience with this issue. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQRX-0003Xm-60 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:28:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQRU-0003Up-H4 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:28:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQRT-0003U7-SA - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:28:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQRT-0003Ts-NG - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:28:23 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQRT-0006qx-I6 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:28:23 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA20SB4K022831 - for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:28:15 -0500 -Received: (qmail 3047 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2006 00:28:11 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 2 Nov 2006 00:28:11 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA20IM404657; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:18:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:18:22 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 02 Nov 2006 00:49:05 +0100) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - -Cc: list > | The MAC server on which this was compiled did not have an X-windows > | environment so it was not possible to compile and test Axiom Graphics @@ -2533,56 +1617,25 @@ Cc: list clef knows more than readline. given an input file it can do smart command line completion of things like domain names. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQSE-00041K-37 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:29:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQSC-00040f-6b - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:29:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQSB-000408-1Y - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:29:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQSA-000405-Ug - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:29:06 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQSA-00071K-T6 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:29:07 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 2A8A868E1B; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:29:06 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 5B68B68BEB; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:29:05 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:29:27 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb+EfQdqybijJXFQDyQM4TtfTn3/AAAbLIw From: Bill Page -To: "Raymond Manzoni" -Cc: list +To: Raymond Manzoni +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:59 PM Raymond Manzoni wrote: > ... > Thank you for the binary! (I am on OS X 10.4.8) > Unfortunately I got : ->=20 +> > $ AXIOMsys -> dyld: Library not loaded: /home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/lib/libintl.=20 +> dyld: Library not loaded: /home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/lib/libintl. > 8.dylib -> Referenced from: /Users/raym/Desktop/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/bin/=20 +> Referenced from: /Users/raym/Desktop/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/bin/ > AXIOMsys > Reason: image not found > Trace/BPT trap ->=20 +> > So some remaining path problems I fear... > @@ -2600,49 +1653,26 @@ set. If you do have libintl somewhere on you system, perhaps you can try setting -export LIBRARY_PATH=3D/usr/lib/where-ever-it-is +export LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/where-ever-it-is I am surprised to see the AXIOMsys binary include a full path name to this external library! Must be something pretty weird about these .dylib files. ;) -> Ready to give it a new try or, better, to compile the=20 +> Ready to give it a new try or, better, to compile the > gcl/axiom source code if it's available somewhere. > (tomorrow since it's late here...). ->=20 +> Ok, tommorrow. Thanks for checking in to this! -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQiX-0003Km-RL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:46:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQiV-0003FZ-Qk - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:45:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQiT-000399-TL - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:45:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQiT-00038T-Ec - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:45:57 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQiS-0001FD-PC - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:45:57 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfQhW-0005Q1-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 01:44:58 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Bill Page Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:44:58 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 > On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:17 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > > ... @@ -2682,41 +1712,11 @@ to look is '/dev' directory contains things like '/dev/ptyq0' and '/dev/ttyq0' (this is a traditional name for legacy pty's). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQsS-00084g-0T - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:56:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQsQ-00083j-57 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:56:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfQsN-0007zS-Qv - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:56:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfQsN-0007yx-MI - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:56:11 -0500 -Received: from [66.196.97.73] (helo=web56714.mail.re3.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfQsN-0002vz-2q - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:56:11 -0500 -Received: (qmail 82105 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Nov 2006 00:56:10 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=u2VkYyAp646Bg6DaMGp9heNvxT25FsD5OGw8QfmJRjxBWhrXKJyxCUHd/GSb2xC5RoLiVSIPxvVSffzJFc6brSHNiBoq1FOj+Z/hunDSr1wsBGQzPDqQZCg56Um7EKFkDJ/u4y/92NPMFv+znyKzt+2e6wNrW2k5gLQ//7AuMv4= - ; -Received: from [70.161.122.154] by web56714.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:56:10 PST +\start Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 16:56:10 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Bill Page, - Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +To: Bill Page, Gabriel Dos Reis --- Bill Page wrote: @@ -2735,53 +1735,11 @@ with a lot of lisps instead of just GCL, which might be useful for things like porting down the road. And its license should pose no problem. -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups -(http://groups.yahoo.com) - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRE7-00075W-NH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:18:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRE6-00072Y-0j - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:18:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRE4-0006zc-0m - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:18:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfRE3-0006zS-Ta - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:18:35 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfRE3-0005m2-Hh - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:18:35 -0500 -Received: (qmail 24931 invoked by uid 7797); 2 Nov 2006 01:15:33 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.062782 secs); 02 Nov 2006 01:15:33 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 2 Nov 2006 01:15:33 -0000 +\start Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:18:22 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Bill Page Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig1C344BD2C7EE7FD7EB45C9A7" -Cc: list This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1C344BD2C7EE7FD7EB45C9A7 @@ -2794,30 +1752,30 @@ Page, Bill wrote: >>> >> I have PowerPC and Intel Macs running OS X 10.4.8 with fink, and >> I'd like to try building axiom on them as well. ->=20 +> > Great! ->=20 +> >> Are these changes in the build-improvements branch? >> ->=20 +> > No, not everything is in build-improvements yet - give us a few > more hours. :-) ->=20 +> > In the mean time I would be very interested if you could start > by just trying to buiuld the gcl lisp compiler. This is a pre- > requiste for the Axiom build. You can get the version we will be > using in build-improvements directly from the gcl CVS archive via > the command line: ->=20 +> > $ cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/gcl -z9 export \ > -Dtoday -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl ->=20 +> > and then do ->=20 +> > $ cd gcl-2.6.8pre -> $ ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local +> $ ./configure --prefix=/usr/local > $ make ->=20 +> > Ask if you need mor details. Let us know how it works. On PowerPC, make fails: @@ -2836,68 +1794,19 @@ On Intel, configure of gmp fails, as it can't figure out the machine type. I have gmp 4.2.1 installed with fink, but I don't think I can build gcl with that version of gmp. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig1C344BD2C7EE7FD7EB45C9A7 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFSUdmO8aX8Tqx8vgRAgwGAKCMVbLGn77NURqJXm1HL6ylGWd6+ACdE7jG -b2V87NNbRD01BBKwtM78G+4= -=TPFn ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig1C344BD2C7EE7FD7EB45C9A7-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRHF-0006I3-0W - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:21:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRHC-0006CI-Iz - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:21:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRHA-00069Q-4Q - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:21:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfRH9-00068j-Rw - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:21:48 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfRH9-0006Mf-JT - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:21:47 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 0C8E969260; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 20:21:47 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 9344D6925A; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 20:21:45 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +\start Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 20:21:39 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb+GER28ThtnOF3Sv29WvkbELQ1vAAAaYfw From: Bill Page -To: "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:45 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: -> =20 +> > I am affraid I can not really offer Mac experience. However > the first Goole hit for: MACOSX pty is: ->=20 +> > Mac OS X pty Permission Security Issue ->=20 +> > Now, something which does not exits should have no security > problems, so I would belive that Mac OS X has pty. @@ -2909,16 +1818,16 @@ change in OSX a lot since 10.3. > OTOH this security problem is solved by Unix 98 pty's (in > other words Linux /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts), so we can infer > that Mac OS X has only legacy pty (so you should use BSD -> branch).=20 +> branch). > What do you mean by "BSD branch"? -=20 + > BTW: I you are logged into a Mac OS X machine you can try > to look is '/dev' directory contains things like '/dev/ptyq0' > and '/dev/ttyq0' (this is a traditional name for legacy > pty's). -> =20 +> Yes, I see for example: @@ -2953,38 +1862,10 @@ Maybe it is just that I don't understand that MAC library setup. >From what else I can get from the web, I should expect to find these functions in libc (-lc). -Any ideas? - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRPW-0007HG-QQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:30:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRPU-0007GW-Bo - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:30:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRPS-0007GK-2U - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:30:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRPR-0007GH-VX; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:30:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GfRPR-0001hQ-Ir; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:30:21 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GfRPQ-0006aM-9K; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:30:20 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfROD-0006BL-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:29:05 -0500 -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Camm Maguire Date: 01 Nov 2006 20:29:05 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: sock_get_string_buf Greetings! @@ -3088,49 +1969,12 @@ Take care, > callbacks from C to Lisp). If (as I hope) GCL will not trigger garbage > collection form a signal handler, keeping strings in relocatable memory > should be safe. -> -> -- -> Waldek Hebisch -> Waldek Hebisch -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRRb-0001qp-Cy - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:32:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRRa-0001q3-Ba - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:32:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRRX-0001pb-Pv - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:32:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfRRX-0001pY-LS - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:32:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GfRRX-0003Ps-MP - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:32:31 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfRRW-0006oP-CB - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:32:30 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfRQx-0006Bk-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:31:55 -0500 +\start +Date: 01 Nov 2006 20:31:55 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 01 Nov 2006 20:31:55 -0500 -Cc: list Greetings! Here is the patch in 2005901-9: @@ -3215,63 +2059,25 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > I would like to see the final patch, e.g. the things that would be > committed, including the explanation of what the code and what is > going in the pamphletss. -> -> -- Gaby -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRuA-0007MS-Hp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:02:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRu8-0007Fw-Sq - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:02:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfRu8-0007Cf-4Y - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:02:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfRu8-0007CM-23 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:02:04 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfRu6-0003u4-L6 - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:02:02 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 5CC48694C0; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 21:02:02 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 89C866941C; - Wed, 1 Nov 2006 21:02:01 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +\start Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 21:01:51 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: Acb+HON0m09W167YQJqOfGZ15xVB+AABG4eA From: Bill Page -To: "Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +Cc: Camm Maguire On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:18 PM Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > On PowerPC, make fails: ->=20 +> > gcc -o raw_pre_gcl \ > -L. -lpre_gcl `echo -lSM -lICE -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXmu -lXt -lXext > -lXaw -lX11 -lm -lreadline -lncurses | sed -e 's/-lncurses/ /'` > -lintl -lc -lgclp > /usr/bin/ld: can't locate file for: -lintl > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status ->=20 +> > Fink installed a version of libintl from gettext-dev 0.10.40, so I've > added a "-L/sw/lib" and am retrying the build now. > @@ -3280,11 +2086,11 @@ Here is a recipe that seems to work for me and avoids reference to fink or other non-gcl related libraries: $ export -LIBRARY_PATH=3D/home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/new/gcl-2.6.8pre/binutils/in= +LIBRARY_PATH=/home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/new/gcl-2.6.8pre/binutils/in= t l $ make clean - $ ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local --enable-locbfd = + $ ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --enable-locbfd = --disable-statsysbfd $ make $ make install @@ -3294,11 +2100,11 @@ I have a new batch of Axiom cooking with this version of gcl. Note: It seems to be necessary to specify the --endable-locfd option to ensure that the bfd internal to gcl is configured with internal gettext. -=20 + > On Intel, configure of gmp fails, as it can't figure out the machine > type. I have gmp 4.2.1 installed with fink, but I don't think I can > build gcl with that version of gmp. ->=20 +> Too bad. :-( There are some options that affect gcl's use of gmp. See ./configure --help You might try: @@ -3308,48 +2114,12 @@ See ./configure --help You might try: I have also Cc: Camm Maquire, the primary GCL developer who might have some other suggestions for your Mac Intel platform. -Thanks. - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfSD9-0005uv-GC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:21:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfSD6-0005ot-QF - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:21:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfSD4-0005jn-1f - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:21:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfSD3-0005jU-TC - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:21:37 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfSD3-0006oO-Ew - for list; Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:21:37 -0500 -Received: (qmail 27441 invoked by uid 7797); 2 Nov 2006 02:18:36 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.105998 secs); 02 Nov 2006 02:18:36 -0000 - list, Camm Maguire -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 2 Nov 2006 02:18:36 -0000 Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:21:21 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Bill Page Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig66135B90A32B972C0BE791BA" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig66135B90A32B972C0BE791BA @@ -3361,83 +2131,31 @@ Page, Bill wrote: >> type. I have gmp 4.2.1 installed with fink, but I don't think I can >> build gcl with that version of gmp. >> ->=20 +> > Too bad. :-( There are some options that affect gcl's use of gmp. > See ./configure --help You might try: ->=20 +> > --disable-dynsysgmp My bad, this was a configure error in gcl, not gmp. The gmp configure and build seems to work. I made a copy of h/powerpc-macosx.defs and h/powerpc-macosx.h and called - ./configure --enable-machine=3Di386-macosx --prefix=3D/usr/local + ./configure --enable-machine=i386-macosx --prefix=/usr/local --enable-locbfd --disable-statsysbfd Now there's some problems with malloc.h not being found. configure.in has a test for powerpc-macosx that should be duplicated for the new i386-macosx target. 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Grozin To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - -Cc: list On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Bill Page writes: @@ -3968,45 +2481,11 @@ readline is licensed under GPL (not LGPL). When Axiom was a commercial product, it could not use readline. Now it cannot use readline, too, because it is BSD-licensed (arrgh). -Andrey - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfYHm-0001oR-OP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:50:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfYHk-0001n8-Ak - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:50:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfYHi-0001mK-WA - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:50:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfYHi-0001m6-AP - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:50:50 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfYHi-0005SQ-6j - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:50:50 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA28oXm5026257 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 03:50:37 -0500 -Received: (qmail 32419 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2006 08:50:34 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Gabriel Dos Reis; 2 Nov 2006 08:50:34 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA28eoQ15023; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 03:40:50 -0500 +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 03:40:50 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Andrey G. Grozin - (Andrey G. Grozin) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - -Cc: axiom-legal@nongnu.org, list > > Bill Page writes: > > | The MAC server on which this was compiled did not have an X-windows @@ -4031,33 +2510,11 @@ sees no license problems that arise in either direction. That said, I beg of you not to continue a legal discussion in the developer list. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfZDz-0008Ki-U7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:51:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfZDw-0008IN-6J - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:51:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfZDv-0008Hs-BQ - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:50:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfZDv-0008Hj-5P - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:50:59 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfZDu-0004FE-IX - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:50:58 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfZD0-000284-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:50:02 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Bill Page Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:50:02 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 > On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:45 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > > @@ -4178,35 +2635,11 @@ These are Unix 98 pty routines. Somebody should check if Mac OS X 10.4 supports them, but all sources claim that earlier versions do not have them. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfbJz-0004tq-BF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:05:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfbJx-0004p3-Hh - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:05:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfbJs-0004Yz-F5 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:05:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfbJs-0004YZ-27 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:05:16 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfbJr-0003A8-Kc - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:05:15 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfbIx-0002ck-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:04:19 +0100 -Subject: Re: viewport in build-improvements -To: Ralf Hemmecke +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:04:19 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: viewport in build-improvements Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > Sure many files *look* like text files, but you have heard Tim saying that @@ -4229,43 +2662,11 @@ are text files, but in general Postscript may contain binary data. I think in the future we should decide if we want binary Postscript in source repository (ATM I did not touch .ps files). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfbZN-0005a4-An - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:21:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfbZL-0005Yo-QT - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:21:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfbZI-0005Vc-Gd - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:21:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfbZI-0005VT-EO - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:21:12 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.190] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfbZI-0005MR-17 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:21:12 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p46so1494478nfa - for ; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:21:10 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; - b=Q3gKo1nsgFcDOMohoFql+eR+xMQWBtsCmhREtrHzTDaoUpa/1bbixtQOI1d1eMGwp3F7/Z835e79nAoa2fcVLKq00f+i2BqQdgRAnNuDm07oIqPbdF8ARcEWUpnjLE/7mM/bt6uy6FqUBsjJvPyRuCxzuL/m8vv7T4FEj2rxtbY= -Received: by 10.49.92.18 with SMTP id u18mr5538988nfl.1162470069562; - Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:21:09 -0800 (PST) -Received: from morphism.heartland ( [62.14.113.80]) - by mx.google.com with ESMTP id a24sm8876964nfc.2006.11.02.04.21.08; - Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:21:09 -0800 (PST) +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:21:06 +0100 -From: "Juan M. Bello Rivas" +From: Juan Rivas To: list Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - Hi, @@ -4284,39 +2685,11 @@ http://blog.superadditive.com/2006/10/28/using-axiom-with-vi-keystrokes/ For the moment it has worked well. --- -Juan M. Bello Rivas - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfcDz-0003az-PX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:03:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfcDy-0003Zv-46 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:03:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfcDs-0003WL-SO - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:03:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfcDr-0003VI-Pa - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:03:08 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfcDr-0007Th-6P - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:03:07 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA2D3132020597 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 14:03:01 +0100 +\start Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:04:58 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: viewport in build-improvements -Cc: list Hello, @@ -4366,90 +2739,12 @@ generated from Axiom commands will go away. The HyperDoc screenshots are probably more tricky to generate automatically at compile-time. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfcTY-00074W-UN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:19:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfcTX-00074R-C4 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:19:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfcTV-000742-Tc - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:19:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfcTV-00073y-R3 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:19:17 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfcTV-0003DX-My - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:19:17 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfcSX-0008Vg-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:18:17 +0100 -Subject: Re: viewport in build-improvements -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 14:18:17 +0100 (CET) -From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list - -Ralf Hemmecke wrote: -> On 11/02/2006 01:04 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: -> > .ht, .pht, .bitmap, .pixmap, .xbm and .data in Axiom distribution are -> > text files. Hyperdoc uses byte counts to access .ht and .pht, but -> > the file positions should be recomputed anyway. -> -> Since I don't live too deep in .ht and .pht things, what does that mean? -> Do you want to recompute the byte-offsets at the time these files are -> copied to the /mnt directory? If you do that then it clearly classifies -> those files as being generated and no source anymore. Then they should -> not live under SVN at all. -> - -Byte offsets are stored in 'ht.db' -- I proposed its removal from -the source repository. .pht things could be generated, but ATM -this stops at various places waiting for keyboard input. The largest -.ht files are NAG documention -- we have no source the generate them. -Most of the other .ht files are generated (extracted) from Axiom book, -but we need to write an extraction program. For this it would help -to see NAG version of Axiom book -- the one in open is heavily -modified by Tim. - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfcwz-0003sb-2C - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:49:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfcww-0003oz-2C - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:49:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfcwq-0003gD-W8 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:49:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfcwq-0003fP-C0; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:49:36 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.63] (helo=mail243.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gfcwq-0001bk-CX; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:49:36 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail243.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA2DmjVJ014813; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 08:49:02 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 08:48:31 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: Re: sock_get_string_buf -Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 08:48:31 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - camm@axiom-developer.org +Cc: Camm Maguire On November 2, 2006 2:29 AM Tim Daly wrote: > ... @@ -4475,41 +2770,13 @@ encourage gcl to use it's own built-in version of gettext: These should be the default of MAC OSX -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdAS-0005nG-Vh - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:03:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdAP-0005i6-Kr - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:03:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdAJ-0005Um-NG - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:03:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfdAI-0005U8-VR - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:03:31 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfdAI-0004dt-CS - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:03:30 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfdA4-0002Rg-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:03:16 -0500 -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <45495621.7070602@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Camm Maguire Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:03:16 -0500 -Cc: list - -Greetings! +From: Camm Maguire +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Humberto Zuazaga writes: > Page, Bill wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:18 PM Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: @@ -4545,59 +2812,13 @@ Just a note, this should be the default if no external gmp is found. Thanks so much for your work on this! Will be back in town on Sunday. -Take care, - -> -- -> Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -> Programmer-Archaeologist -> University of Puerto Rico -> http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdEL-0008ST-KC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:07:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdEK-0008P2-48 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:07:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdEH-0008Et-8c - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:07:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfdEG-0008EX-Mu - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:07:37 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfdEG-0005Ht-AR - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:07:36 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB424F44D; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 15:07:26 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA2E38Ch004953; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 15:03:10 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA2E38Rs004952; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 15:03:08 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:03:07 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - <200611020018.kA20IM404657@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:03:07 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > | The MAC server on which this was compiled did not have an X-windows | > | environment so it was not possible to compile and test Axiom Graphics @@ -4614,39 +2835,13 @@ In what sense that "more knowledge" is unattainable with readline. I dislike all those duplicated things in Axiom. They are nothing but source of confusion. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdFb-0003hQ-HI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:08:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdFa-0003d0-1S - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:08:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdFX-0003WN-WC - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:08:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdFX-0003Vh-Nt; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:08:55 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GfdFX-0005S7-Fv; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:08:55 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfdEy-0002Tc-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:08:20 -0500 +Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:08:20 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Tim Daly Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - <54ac3azlem.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <200611020236.kA22aEi13787@localhost.localdomain> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:08:20 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org -Greetings! - -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: > cvs -z9 -q co -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl > @@ -4682,58 +2877,14 @@ view. Still bfd is somewhat unique in that the upstream specifically forbids the normal type of shared library dependency as its internal api changes so frequently and without notice. -Take care, - -> t -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdLe-0008RL-2L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdLb-0008Ks-Q9 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdLY-0008Dg-0O - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfdLX-0008D2-8A - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:07 -0500 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Reis -Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:10:33 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - camm@axiom-developer.org +Cc: Camm Maguire -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: [...] @@ -4753,79 +2904,53 @@ development is present, is not not it invokes GCL's configure with In the future, GCL should do that -- I'll commit patch to GCL's trunk, not 2.6.8pre branch. --- gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdLp-0000LB-82 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdLn-0000Hd-AA - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdLm-0000G4-Hs - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdLm-0000FU-4R; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:22 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GfdLl-0006dE-Ny; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:15:22 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfdLD-00079J-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:14:47 -0500 +Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:14:47 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Tim Daly Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - <54ac3azlem.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <200611020348.kA23mck14876@localhost.localdomain> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:14:47 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -Greetings! -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: > cvs -z9 -q co -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl ->=20 +> > successfully builds on FreeBSD ->=20 -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ->=20 +> +> ========================= +========================== +=============== +> > fails on MAC OSX PPC ->=20 +> > config.status: creating po/Makefile.in > config.status: executing depfiles commands > config.status: executing default commands -> file=3D./`echo fr | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ -> && rm -f $file && PATH=3D../src:$PATH msgfmt -o $file fr.po +> file=./`echo fr | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ +> && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH msgfmt -o $file fr.po > /bin/sh: line 1: msgfmt: command not found > make[3]: *** [fr.gmo] Error 127 > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 > make: *** [binutils/bfd/libbfd.a] Error 2 -> sh-2.05b#=20 ->=20 +> sh-2.05b# +> OK, am looking into --disable-nls for this. -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +> ========================= +========================== +=============== In all of the following, --disable-statsysbfd --enable-locbfd is needed. configure should be smarter, but I'm unsure as to whether automating this determination should go into 2.6.8, as it could be -tricky.=20 +tricky. ->=20 -> fails on debian=20 ->=20 -> gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointe= -r -I/root/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c=20=20 +> +> fails on debian +> +> gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointe= +r -I/root/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c > fat_string.c:17:17: bfd.h: No such file or directory > fat_string.c:18:21: bfdlink.h: No such file or directory > fat_string.c:231: error: syntax error before "bfd_combined_table_update" @@ -4856,19 +2981,19 @@ nfo' > make[1]: *** [fat_string.o] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/gcl-2.6.8pre/o' > make: *** [unixport/saved_pre_gcl] Error 2 -> debian:~/gcl-2.6.8pre#=20 +> debian:~/gcl-2.6.8pre# ->=20 -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ->=20 +> +> ========================= +========================== +=============== +> > fails on ubuntu ->=20 -> gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointe= -r -I/tmp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c=20=20 +> +> gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointe= +r -I/tmp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c > fat_string.c:17:17: error: bfd.h: No such file or directory > fat_string.c:18:21: error: bfdlink.h: No such file or directory > fat_string.c:231: error: syntax error before =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98bfd_combin= @@ -4900,32 +3025,32 @@ struct bfd_link_info=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99 > make[1]: *** [fat_string.o] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o' > make: *** [unixport/saved_pre_gcl] Error 2 ->=20 ->=20 -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ->=20 +> +> +> ========================= +========================== +=============== +> > successfully builds on Fedora 4 ->=20 -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ->=20 +> +> ========================= +========================== +=============== +> > successfully builds on Fedora 5 ->=20 -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ->=20 +> +> ========================= +========================== +=============== +> > fails on Fedora 6 ->=20 ->=20 -> gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointe= -r -I/root/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c=20=20 +> +> +> gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointe= +r -I/root/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c > fat_string.c:17:17: error: bfd.h: No such file or directory > fat_string.c:18:21: error: bfdlink.h: No such file or directory -> fat_string.c:231: error: expected =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98=3D=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99= +> fat_string.c:231: error: expected =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98==C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99= , =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98,=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99, =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98;=C3=A2=C2=80=C2= =99, =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98asm=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99 or =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98__attribu= te__=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99 before =C3=A2=C2=80=C2=98bfd_combined_table_update= @@ -4947,28 +3072,28 @@ struct bfd_link_info=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99 > make[1]: *** [fat_string.o] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/gcl-2.6.8pre/o' > make: *** [unixport/saved_pre_gcl] Error 2 -> [root@dhcppc0 gcl-2.6.8pre]#=20 ->=20 +> [root@dhcppc0 gcl-2.6.8pre]# +> Has the segfault at the raw_pre_gcl stage you reported earlier disappeared? ->=20 ->=20 -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ->=20 +> +> +> ========================= +========================== +=============== +> > successfully builds on RedHat 9 ->=20 -> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ->=20 -> yields=20 ->=20 -> gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=3Dvolatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointe= -r -I/tmp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c=20=20 +> +> ========================= +========================== +=============== +> +> yields +> +> gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointe= +r -I/tmp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c > fat_string.c:231: parse error before `bfd_combined_table_update' > fat_string.c:231: warning: return type defaults to `int' > fat_string.c: In function `fSset_up_combined': @@ -4979,61 +3104,17 @@ r -I/tmp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c=20=20 > make[1]: *** [fat_string.o] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gcl-2.6.8pre/o' > make: *** [unixport/saved_pre_gcl] Error 2 ->=20 +> > on RedHat 7.2 ->=20 -> t ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 -Take care, - ---=20 -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdNO-0003TV-To - for 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Bill Page writes: @@ -5141,88 +3198,24 @@ Take care, > > I have also Cc: Camm Maquire, the primary GCL developer who might > have some other suggestions for your Mac Intel platform. -> -> Thanks. -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdXL-0003nj-MW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:27:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdXK-0003jH-Ah - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:27:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdXJ-0003fm-FD - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:27:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfdXJ-0003f9-Au - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:27:17 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfdXJ-0001Ln-6F - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:27:17 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GfdWl-0007GS-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:26:43 -0500 -To: Bill Page -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:26:43 -0500 -Cc: list, Tom Hargreaves, control@bugs.debian.org, - 346552@bugs.debian.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Subject: msgfmt requirement in GCL +Cc: Tom Hargreaves ... should now be removed, thanks to Gaby's suggestion -- --disable-nls added to the subconfigures. Please let me know if problems persist here. -Take care, --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfdhf-0001QW-ST - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:37:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfdhd-0001N1-B9 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:37:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfdhY-0001I4-IC - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:37:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfdhY-0001Hj-35 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:37:52 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.180] (helo=mail60c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfdhX-0002hD-UF - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 09:37:52 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail60c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA2Eb8Oc006805; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 09:37:22 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Camm Maguire'" Camm Maguire -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 09:36:50 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Camm, +From: Bill Page +To: Camm Maguire +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 On November 2, 2006 9:22 AM you wrote: > ... @@ -5270,42 +3263,13 @@ to static link this library? > BTW, out of town till Sunday. > -Have a good trip! :-) - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfe3K-00042p-LE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfe3J-00040j-9D - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfe3E-0003sx-Vm - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfe3E-0003sX-Iq; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:16 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gfe3E-0006Jx-4V; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:16 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gfe39-0007qu-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:11 -0500 -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf -From: Camm Maguire Date: 02 Nov 2006 10:00:11 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -Greetings! +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: > On November 2, 2006 2:29 AM Tim Daly wrote: > > ... @@ -5338,58 +3302,11 @@ line. But msgfmt is still not in the path, though might be made so. In any case, I just added --disable-nls which omits these calls to msgfmt. -Take care, - -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfe3X-0004PE-DE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfe3V-0004L6-A7 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfe3Q-0004CC-7I - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfe3Q-0004Bv-2A - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:28 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfe3P-0006LQ-Gk - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:00:27 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBDE41196; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 16:00:26 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA2Etwvl006522; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 15:56:01 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA2EtwDC006521; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 15:55:58 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:55:58 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - <54ac3azlem.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <200611020348.kA23mck14876@localhost.localdomain> - <54irhyc4vc.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:55:58 +0100 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Camm Maguire writes: @@ -5429,43 +3346,11 @@ I have the following on axiom.build-improvements to detect that. $axiom_gcl_bfd_option --enable-maxpage=256*1024" @ --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfeWW-0001xI-CL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:30:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfeWT-0001sC-8p - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:30:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfeWP-0001jb-DF - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:30:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfeWO-0001jA-Tk - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:30:24 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfeWO-0004KH-Tg - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:30:25 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA2FU4HO011742 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:30:08 -0500 -Received: (qmail 20581 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2006 15:30:05 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Ralf Hemmecke; 2 Nov 2006 15:30:05 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA2FKOu15604; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:20:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:20:24 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Waldek Hebisch - Hebisch on Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:04:19 +0100 (CET)) Subject: Re: viewport in build-improvements -Cc: list > > Sure many files *look* like text files, but you have heard Tim saying that > > @@ -5505,44 +3390,12 @@ just like everything else. Although I chose arch and it "does the right thing" I have to say that GIT seems to have the SCM philosophy most clearly implemented. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfeXa-0002a7-Dm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:31:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfeXY-0002ZB-Dx - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:31:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfeXO-0002Tb-QZ - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:31:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfeXO-0002TE-Jn - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:31:26 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfeDC-0000S3-8r - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:10:34 -0500 -Received: (qmail 25726 invoked by uid 7797); 2 Nov 2006 15:07:31 -0000 -Received: from 136.145.54.123 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(136.145.54.123):. - Processed in 0.039853 secs); 02 Nov 2006 15:07:31 -0000 - list, Camm Maguire -Received: from unknown (HELO ?136.145.54.123?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@136.145.54.123) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 2 Nov 2006 15:07:31 -0000 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:12:13 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Bill Page Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire Page, Bill wrote: > On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:18 PM Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: @@ -5619,50 +3472,12 @@ _my_free _my_malloc collect2: ld returned 1 exit status - --- -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -UPR Bioinformatics Resource Center -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfemf-0004ny-HI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:47:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfemc-0004iQ-FQ - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:47:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfemV-0004UB-7s - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:47:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfemV-0004Sn-1J - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:47:03 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfemU-0007TE-BM - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:47:02 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA2Fkg52030297 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:46:43 -0500 -Received: (qmail 27798 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2006 15:46:41 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 2 Nov 2006 15:46:41 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA2Fb0V15635; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:37:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:37:00 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - camm@axiom-developer.org - +Cc: Camm Maguire > > ... > > fails on MAC OSX PPC @@ -5697,41 +3512,12 @@ equivalent but have not yet found it. There is no apt-get or yum tool for the MAC that I can find. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gff7s-0004Fg-II - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gff7q-0004Bh-Ix - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gff7k-0003yU-Vk - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gff7k-0003y8-OZ - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:00 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.92.169] (helo=ug-out-1314.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gff7k-0003Bs-EL - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:00 -0500 -Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id j40so146764ugd - for ; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:08:59 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=mTAF4NFrPJCaWZg+AjQ4F4KJK8ICn7HAAtjjxt1bQIWOZ+6IvFeLRc1ewgwCtx246jczFyufsmK3x/U60/HK0ulZJONmA6c744Ch6B7BoKsRlxoavtZzM58xQebQK6f1kVsNZpeETm+/JdW5JMPiULrAewgbail2iig63yN8yjs= -Received: by 10.82.135.13 with SMTP id i13mr232738bud.1162483738649; - Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:08:58 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 08:08:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:08:58 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes To: Tim Daly Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - <200611021537.kA2Fb0V15635@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - camm@axiom-developer.org +Cc: Camm Maguire > Yum does not know about binutils-dev which is a debian package > so Fedora 6 still won't build. I searched for the binutils-dev @@ -5743,35 +3529,12 @@ http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/6/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/bi rpm -ivh binutils-devel-2.17.50.0.3-6 - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gff8a-0005aw-Ga - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gff8Y-0005XA-Ox - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gff8S-0005Lq-Rz - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gff8S-0005LW-IQ; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:44 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.108] (helo=mail288.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gff8S-0003Hc-AU; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:09:44 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail288.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA2G989J031198; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:09:27 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Tim Daly -Subject: RE: Re: sock_get_string_buf Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:08:32 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - camm@axiom-developer.org +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: sock_get_string_buf +Cc: Camm Maguire On November 2, 2006 10:37 AM Tim Daly wrote: > @@ -5825,37 +3588,12 @@ to use it's own built-in version. You don't need to install binutils so you don't need apt-get or yum. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffAt-0001xJ-IM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:12:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffAr-0001t2-Q6 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:12:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffAn-0001j4-1H - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:12:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffAm-0001iT-OL; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:12:08 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GffAm-0003mA-AV; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:12:08 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gff9o-0002dn-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:11:08 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre -To: Tim Daly Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:11:08 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - camm@axiom-developer.org +To: Tim Daly +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre +Cc: Camm Maguire root wrote: > Yum does not know about binutils-dev which is a debian package @@ -5868,38 +3606,12 @@ root wrote: Fedora name is 'binutils-devel' (for i386 the full name is 'Fedora/RPMS/binutils-devel-2.17.50.0.3-6.i386.rpm') --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffGV-0001oi-7i - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:18:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffGU-0001nh-4K - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:18:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffGR-0001nA-FV - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:18:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffGR-0001n7-Ab; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:17:59 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.178] (helo=mail58c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) - id 1GffGR-00058E-6e; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:17:59 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail58c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA2GFKEj027171; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:15:36 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Tim Daly -Subject: RE: Re: sock_get_string_buf +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:15:06 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: sock_get_string_buf +Cc: Camm Maguire On November 2, 2006 11:09 AM I wrote: > ... @@ -5928,49 +3640,11 @@ not cleanup very well. (Sorry, I didn't document at the time.) Note also that Camm committed new changes to gcl-2.6.8pre just this morning that could affect this behaviour. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffIz-00044H-6s - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:20:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffIx-00043R-Gf - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:20:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffIu-00041G-RG - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:20:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GffIu-00040z-B9 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:20:32 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GffIt-0005o0-SR - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:20:32 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA2GJwUs026743 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:20:17 -0500 -Received: (qmail 25286 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2006 16:19:59 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 2 Nov 2006 16:19:59 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA2GAIN15691; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:10:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:10:18 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 02 Nov 2006 15:03:07 +0100) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - <200611020018.kA20IM404657@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | > | The MAC server on which this was compiled did not have an X-windows > | > | environment so it was not possible to compile and test Axiom Graphics @@ -6000,48 +3674,13 @@ later (and fit on 3 diskettes, collecting mold in my basement). If readline can do completions perhaps we should feed it the symbols in compress.daase. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffhg-0007kQ-Ck - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:46:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffhe-0007de-5c - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:46:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffhZ-0007Qj-8t - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:46:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GffhZ-0007QS-4U - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:46:01 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GffhX-0003dA-1z - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:45:59 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DDC41095; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:45:56 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA2GfU9a009201; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:41:32 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA2GfUaA009200; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:41:30 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 02 Nov 2006 17:41:29 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - <200611020018.kA20IM404657@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611021610.kA2GAIN15691@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Nov 2006 17:41:29 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > | > | The MAC server on which this was compiled did not have an X-windows | > | > | environment so it was not possible to compile and test Axiom Graphics @@ -6076,46 +3715,14 @@ standard readline. We should put that on the TODO list. --- gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffjj-0003Vh-VV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:48:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffji-0003Sa-EV - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:48:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffjh-0003RG-Vt - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:48:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gffjh-0003Qp-Gd - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:48:13 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gffjh-0003vI-Ab - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:48:13 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2600B411CC; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:48:11 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA2Ghi2e009205; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:43:46 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA2GhiNU009204; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:43:44 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 02 Nov 2006 17:43:44 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - <200611021537.kA2Fb0V15635@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 02 Nov 2006 17:43:44 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org, - camm@axiom-developer.org +Cc: Camm Maguire -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > > ... | > > fails on MAC OSX PPC @@ -6146,37 +3753,13 @@ Please use --disable-nls. Until, Axiom officially support internationalization. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffkp-00053U-Db - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:49:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffkn-00051i-MS - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:49:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffki-0004w9-S9 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:49:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gffki-0004vu-LV; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:49:16 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gffki-00046F-LX; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:49:16 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gffkf-0008QP-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:49:13 -0500 -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf -From: Camm Maguire Date: 02 Nov 2006 11:49:13 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -Greetings! +From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: > On November 2, 2006 10:37 AM Tim Daly wrote: > > @@ -6241,56 +3824,15 @@ Take care, > > You don't need to install binutils so you don't need > apt-get or yum. -> -> Regards, -> Bill Page. -> -> -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfflM-0005cC-RM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:45:22 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 02 Nov 2006 17:45:22 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf +Cc: Camm Maguire -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On November 2, 2006 11:09 AM I wrote: | > ... @@ -6313,91 +3855,26 @@ Cc: Camm Maguire, list, gcl-devel@gnu.org yes, there are several Makefile issues with GCL, but that is for another time :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffnZ-0000D9-Hb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:52:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffnX-0000Aa-VJ - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:52:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GffnS-0008TU-95 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:52:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GffnS-0008T5-0x - for list; 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- Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:12:50 +0600 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:12:50 +0600 (NOVT) From: Andrey G. Grozin To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - <200611020018.kA20IM404657@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611021610.kA2GAIN15691@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -> root Tim Daly writes: +> Tim Daly writes: > | At the time clef, hyperdoc, graphics, etc were written we were using > | X10 (not the house wireless, the pre-X11 windows) on 6MHz PCs. These > | ideas were invented within the group to solve problems, not because @@ -6417,64 +3894,32 @@ In fact, the current Axiom distribution falls under GPL anyway, because gcl is built with several GPL parts (including readline, but not only); this is (correctly!) stated in Camm's .deb package. -Andrey - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfhSP-0000a5-Ni - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:38:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfhSO-0000XD-DL - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:38:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfhSK-0000R8-I1 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:38:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfhSK-0000Qy-DU - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:38:24 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.80] (helo=mail260.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfhSK-000547-CB - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:38:24 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail260.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA2Ibv7O021969; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:38:13 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Waldek Hebisch'" Waldek Hebisch -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:37:42 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Waldek, +From: Bill Page +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Thank you! Your patch to openpty for MAC OSX worked perfectly. clef now compiles correctly. :-) I think this change should go in. -Cheers, -Bill Page. - - - On November 2, 2006 4:50 AM Waldek Hebisch wrote: -> > ...=20 +> > ... > > > OTOH this security problem is solved by Unix 98 pty's (in > > > other words Linux /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts), so we can infer > > > that Mac OS X has only legacy pty (so you should use BSD -> > > branch).=20 +> > > branch). > > > > Bill Page asked: -> >=20 +> > > > What do you mean by "BSD branch"? > > ->=20 +> > To change openpty.c.pamphlet like below (untested, I took oportunity > to remove some obfuscation). ->=20 +> --- openpty.c.pamphlet.bb 2006-11-02 11:25:27.000000000 +0100 +++ openpty.c.pamphlet 2006-11-02 11:33:03.243288784 +0100 @@ -6491,13 +3936,13 @@ but variable. -MAC OSX is some variant of BSD. These should probably be merged but we -cannot yet prove that. --<>=3D +-<>= -#if defined(SUN4OS5platform) ||defined(ALPHAplatform) || defined(HP10platform) || defined(LINUXplatform) || = defined(MACOSXplatform) || defined(BSDplatform) -@ --<>=3D +-<>= -#if defined(SUNplatform) || defined(HP9platform) || = defined(LINUXplatform) || defined(MACOSXplatform) || defined(BSDplatform) @@ -6506,11 +3951,11 @@ defined(LINUXplatform) +Before this is done below we hardcode information about each platform. + \section{License} - <>=3D + <>= /* @@ -104,7 +96,7 @@ #endif -=20 + { -#if defined(SUNplatform) || defined (HP9platform) || = defined(RTplatform) @@ -6519,13 +3964,13 @@ defined(RTplatform) defined(RTplatform) ||defined(AIX370platform) || defined(BSDplatform) || = defined(MACOSXplatform) - int looking =3D 1, i; - int oflag =3D O_RDWR; /* flag for opening the pty */ - =20 + int looking = 1, i; + int oflag = O_RDWR; /* flag for opening the pty */ + @@ -147,7 +139,8 @@ return(fdm); #endif -=20 + -<> +/* MAC OS X 10.3 does not support Unix 98 pty's */ +#if defined(SUN4OS5platform) ||defined(ALPHAplatform) || @@ -6541,42 +3986,17 @@ defined(HP10platform) || defined(LINUXplatform) || defined(BSDplatform) +#if defined(SUNplatform) || defined(HP9platform) || = defined(LINUXplatform) || defined(MACOSXplatform) || defined(BSDplatform) - static int channelNo =3D 0; - static char group[] =3D "pqrstuvwxyzPQRST"; - static int groupNo =3D 0; - =20 + static int channelNo = 0; + static char group[] = "pqrstuvwxyzPQRST"; + static int groupNo = 0; + > ... - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfiBD-0002RN-9S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:24:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfiB5-0002Kr-On - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:24:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfiAo-00021f-Nx - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:24:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfiAo-00021F-HX - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:24:22 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.178] (helo=mail58c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfiAo-00070L-7o - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:24:22 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail58c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA2JNskh000632; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 14:24:12 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Raymond Manzoni'" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 14:23:17 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Raymond Manzoni +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Raymond, @@ -6593,43 +4013,38 @@ Everyone else with a PowerPC MAC is encouraged to try it too! Please let me know how/if it works. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - On November 1, 2006 6:59 PM Raymond Manzoni wrote: > ... > Hi Bill, ->=20 +> > Thank you for the binary! (I am on OS X 10.4.8) > Unfortunately I got : ->=20 +> > $ AXIOMsys -> dyld: Library not loaded: /home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/lib/libintl.=20 +> dyld: Library not loaded: /home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/lib/libintl. > 8.dylib -> Referenced from: /Users/raym/Desktop/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/bin/=20 +> Referenced from: /Users/raym/Desktop/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/bin/ > AXIOMsys > Reason: image not found > Trace/BPT trap ->=20 +> > So some remaining path problems I fear... ->=20 -> Ready to give it a new try or, better, to compile the=20 -> gcl/axiom =20 +> +> Ready to give it a new try or, better, to compile the +> gcl/axiom > source code if it's available somewhere. > (tomorrow since it's late here...). ->=20 +> > To: Bill Page > Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 +> +> +> > Le 2 nov. 06 =E0 00:04, Page, Bill a =E9crit : ->=20 +> > > On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:03 PM Martin Rubey wrote: > >> ... > >> WOW, that's cool! Axiom on the Mac! @@ -6648,8 +4063,8 @@ On November 1, 2006 6:59 PM Raymond Manzoni wrote: > > > > and then setup the AXIOM and PATH variables like this: > > -> > $ export AXIOM=3D/usr/local/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 -> > $ export PATH=3D$AXIOM/bin:$PATH +> > $ export AXIOM=/usr/local/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 +> > $ export PATH=$AXIOM/bin:$PATH > > > > and start Axiom like this: > > @@ -6665,7 +4080,7 @@ On November 1, 2006 6:59 PM Raymond Manzoni wrote: > > -------- > > > > The MAC server on which this was compiled did not have an X-windows -> > environment so it was not possible to compile and test=20 +> > environment so it was not possible to compile and test > Axiom Graphics > > and the Hyperdoc browser. Also native MAC OSX10 apparently does not > > have support for the pts virtual terminal interface so it is not @@ -6679,46 +4094,12 @@ On November 1, 2006 6:59 PM Raymond Manzoni wrote: > > available. > > > > I look forward to some comments from MAC users! :-) -> > ->=20 - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfiNm-0002ik-7K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:37:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfiNk-0002gN-P3 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:37:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfiNg-0002aA-65 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:37:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfiNg-0002Zy-1q - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:37:40 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfiNg-0001UM-0l - for list; 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Thu, 2 Nov 2006 21:10:55 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 02 Nov 2006 21:10:55 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | Waldek, | @@ -6886,35 +4168,13 @@ Cc: list If it is tested to work, then please add apporpriate ChangeLog entry to commit to both build-improvements and trunk. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfjnC-0003pe-Bz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:08:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfjnB-0003lb-1d - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:08:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfjn5-0003U8-P4 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:08:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfjn5-0003Ts-Lt - for list; 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Any difference is not supposed to last. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfllz-0004E9-A3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:14:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfllw-00049I-58 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:14:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gflls-00044I-IT - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:14:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfllr-00043q-Uo - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:14:52 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfllr-0003MJ-Po - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:14:51 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gflk6-00008V-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:13:02 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 00:13:02 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: > -> | > "Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +> | > Bill Page writes: > | > > | > | Waldek, > | > | @@ -7045,54 +4250,14 @@ AFAICS the differences are small but growing -- the robot forwards Tims patches to /silver but in the last few days nothing went to /trunk. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GflsT-0001wr-46 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:21:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GflsR-0001w6-0G - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:21:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GflsP-0001vb-By - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:21:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GflsP-0001vX-8d - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:21:37 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GflsO-0004m4-Si - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:21:37 -0500 -Received: (qmail 17063 invoked by uid 7797); 2 Nov 2006 23:18:35 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.091328 secs); 02 Nov 2006 23:18:35 -0000 - list, gcl-devel@gnu.org -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 2 Nov 2006 23:18:35 -0000 +\start Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:21:23 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - <54u01hpzee.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enigCAF474CA0E83D56D19960F04" -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enigCAF474CA0E83D56D19960F04 Camm Maguire wrote: ->=20 +> > Without any path setting? In any case, I jsut checked, and it just > skips the msgfmt calls now, the libintl et.al. stuff is the same. @@ -7101,9 +4266,9 @@ figured out that my makedefs file still had -lintl, I think we need to change h/powerpc-macosx.defs: Index: h/powerpc-macosx.defs -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +================= RCS file: /sources/gcl/gcl/h/powerpc-macosx.defs,v retrieving revision 1.2.2.3.4.1.10.1 diff -a -u -r1.2.2.3.4.1.10.1 powerpc-macosx.defs @@ -7114,75 +4279,19 @@ diff -a -u -r1.2.2.3.4.1.10.1 powerpc-macosx.defs # Set this to avoid warnings when linking against libncurses. # This is due to the requirements of the two level namespace. --LIBS :=3D `echo $(LIBS) | sed -e 's/-lncurses/ /'` -lintl -+LIBS :=3D `echo $(LIBS) | sed -e 's/-lncurses/ /'` +-LIBS := `echo $(LIBS) | sed -e 's/-lncurses/ /'` -lintl ++LIBS := `echo $(LIBS) | sed -e 's/-lncurses/ /'` # Set this for the linker to operate correctly. - MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET =3D 10.2 + MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET = 10.2 now gcl-2.6.8pre builds on my PowerPC Mac OS X 10.4.8 machine. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enigCAF474CA0E83D56D19960F04 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFSn17O8aX8Tqx8vgRAvXmAJ9jUTCEi7hqMs8TCRhM6h1vs5yzbgCfW7Oo -VA0i/x1D5Gd/z/czX44qqqs= -=Oy8Z ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enigCAF474CA0E83D56D19960F04-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfm2G-0004yR-Cr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:31:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfm2F-0004wR-0a - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:31:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfm2C-0004sm-6Z - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:31:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfm2B-0004sc-W3 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:31:44 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfm2B-0007Vr-OX - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:31:44 -0500 -Received: (qmail 17440 invoked by uid 7797); 2 Nov 2006 23:28:42 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.088044 secs); 02 Nov 2006 23:28:42 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 2 Nov 2006 23:28:42 -0000 +\start Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:31:30 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - <200611020728.kA27SXt14977@localhost.localdomain> - <4549F521.7000903@hpcf.upr.edu> - <200611021526.kA2FQca15612@localhost.localdomain> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig2B92EFBA23E719754F9CE57B" - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig2B92EFBA23E719754F9CE57B root wrote: @@ -7191,8 +4300,7 @@ root wrote: > due to my lack of MAC experience. I'm a little confused. I have both fink and XCode installed. AFAIK, fink -requires the XCode gcc compilers and the rest of the toolchain installed.= - +requires the XCode gcc compilers and the rest of the toolchain installed. On the other hand, the current gcl sources require pdflatex to process the documentation, and I have that installed from fink. Which pdflatex @@ -7201,54 +4309,12 @@ are you using? 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The problem @@ -7434,51 +4443,18 @@ diff -ru pp/build-improvements/src/hyper/search.pamphlet build-improvements/src/ END { --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmk5-0003yG-QT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:17:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmk4-0003wd-30 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:17:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmk2-0003vN-R9 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:17:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfmk2-0003vG-Mu - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:17:02 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfmk2-0007SW-Go - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:17:02 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F764F3D5; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:17:00 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA30CWKm019692; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:12:34 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA30CWGe019691; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:12:32 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 03 Nov 2006 01:12:31 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 01:12:31 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | > Waldek Hebisch writes: | > -| > | > "Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +| > | > Bill Page writes: | > | > | > | > | Waldek, | > | > | @@ -7509,41 +4485,10 @@ understanding was that /silver was created as an intermediate step, preventively, to make sure that we did not lose any data. Is that correct? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfmqX-0003qY-D5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:23:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfmqW-0003qK-L9 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:23:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfmqV-0003q0-7Z - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:23:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfmqV-0003px-60 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:23:43 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfmqU-0000Xg-Vl - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:23:43 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA30NVaA028870 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 19:23:35 -0500 -Received: (qmail 13287 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2006 00:23:31 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 3 Nov 2006 00:23:31 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA30DgT09782; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 19:13:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 19:13:42 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: camm@axiom-developer.org, Camm Maguire -Cc: list +From: Tim Daly +To: Camm Maguire Subject: lastest tests I did a checkout of @@ -7570,43 +4515,11 @@ successfully builds and saves on Fedora 6 successfully builds and saves on RedHat 9 successfully builds and saves on RedHat 7.2 -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmtk-0006En-TL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:27:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmtj-0006Ef-RR - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:27:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmti-0006E9-7B - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:27:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfmti-0006E6-30 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:27:02 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfmti-0001cC-3A - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:27:02 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7757240F5A; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:26:59 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA30MWTT020220; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:22:34 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA30MWF0020219; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:22:32 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 03 Nov 2006 01:22:32 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: hypertex and documentation search -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 01:22:32 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -7620,44 +4533,14 @@ The complete correction should invoke Axiom's htsearch with either absolute or relative path, instead of relying on PATH. Could you give that a shot? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmyw-00028E-BA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:32:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmyu-00026T-DX - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:32:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmys-00025C-Gm - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:32:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfmys-000254-CM - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:32:22 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfmys-0002PB-BU - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:32:22 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F123B4F3CC; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:32:20 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA30Rq7n020464; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:27:55 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA30RqPU020463; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:27:52 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 03 Nov 2006 01:27:52 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: lastest tests -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 01:27:52 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, camm@axiom-developer.org +Cc: Camm Maguire -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | I did a checkout of | @@ -7685,44 +4568,14 @@ root Tim Daly writes: We're back to home. Great! --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmzk-0003Fg-Ni - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:33:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmzj-0003Dz-Nx - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:33:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfmzj-0003Cl-5K - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:33:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfmzj-0003CU-2V - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:33:15 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfmzi-0002gt-Tr - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:33:15 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B3C40F09; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:33:12 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA30SjTH020468; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:28:47 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA30SjGY020467; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:28:45 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 03 Nov 2006 01:28:45 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: lastest tests -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 01:28:45 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, camm@axiom-developer.org +Cc: Camm Maguire -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | I did a checkout of | @@ -7731,49 +4584,11 @@ root Tim Daly writes: I'll commit that patch to gcl-2.8.pre, and update axiom.build-improvements. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnEQ-0004un-0d - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:48:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnEN-0004uT-LY - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:48:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnEL-0004uH-ME - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:48:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfnEL-0004uE-IX - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:48:21 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfnEL-0004Iq-9C - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:48:21 -0500 -Received: (qmail 20331 invoked by uid 7797); 3 Nov 2006 00:45:19 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.095276 secs); 03 Nov 2006 00:45:19 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 3 Nov 2006 00:45:18 -0000 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:48:07 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <5464dyc4j2.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig1A387591294F80DD2D0DD4EC" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig1A387591294F80DD2D0DD4EC Camm Maguire wrote: @@ -7793,54 +4608,14 @@ the equivalent on Intel Macs. > Otherwise, the brain-dead default entry-level loading -> option is --disable-statsysbfd --enable-dlopen.=20 +> option is --disable-statsysbfd --enable-dlopen. Can I simply delete the cache sync code and try this? ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig1A387591294F80DD2D0DD4EC - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFSpHOO8aX8Tqx8vgRArSHAJkBEPuF8Lq7g8FiS1UHHDYN+I15UgCeNHIW -tBbzqaN4ShEX0+MdzfU+LdM= -=XcaO ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig1A387591294F80DD2D0DD4EC-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnJF-0004Dx-9r - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:53:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnJD-0004CD-SE - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:53:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnJC-00048y-Bv - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:53:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfnJC-00048o-9F - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:53:22 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfnJC-00054N-AW - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:53:22 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfnIK-0007ow-00 - for ; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 01:52:28 +0100 -To: list Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:52:28 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: gcl-2.6.8pre on Debian unstable I just re-tried using gcl-2.6.8 on Debian unstable. Previously @@ -7864,36 +4639,12 @@ x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu The machine was not updated for long time, so this may be due to machine misconfiguration... - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnZC-0003IB-6q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:09:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnZA-0003I6-Ue - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:09:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfnZ9-0003Ht-G8 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:09:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfnZ9-0003Hq-AY - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:09:51 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfnZ9-0007oa-1W - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:09:51 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GfnY6-0008E3-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 02:08:46 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +\start Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 02:08:46 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +Cc: Camm Maguire Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: > No such luck. Considering that h/powerpc-macosx.h has inline (PowerPC) @@ -7912,35 +4663,11 @@ Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: AFAIK that this code is not needed on Intel processors (processor should automatically keep caches in sync). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfnrq-0005NL-9N - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:29:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfnro-0005Ko-EH - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:29:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfnrm-0005K3-Gq - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:29:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfnrm-0005Jk-9A - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:29:06 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfnrm-0002hX-6S - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:29:06 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gfnqs-0001hy-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 02:28:10 +0100 -Subject: Re: hypertex and documentation search -To: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 02:28:10 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: hypertex and documentation search > Waldek Hebisch writes: > @@ -7967,49 +4694,12 @@ We should use '{\$SPAD/bin/htsearch "\stringvalue{pattern}"}' or But there is also a lot of references to 'viewAlone' (this can be solved with extra sed rule). 'spadclient' use wrong path... --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfoR4-00060O-Gb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:05:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfoR2-0005vh-EP - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:05:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfoQz-0005jy-0t - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:05:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfoQy-0005jb-Hd - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:05:28 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfoQx-0007Uo-Qf - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:05:28 -0500 -Received: (qmail 23348 invoked by uid 7797); 3 Nov 2006 02:02:25 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.089362 secs); 03 Nov 2006 02:02:25 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 3 Nov 2006 02:02:25 -0000 +\start Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:05:14 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig330155D1B5CA1618FE2CF4E2" Subject: Turtles all the way down. -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig330155D1B5CA1618FE2CF4E2 - Axiom's a pretty complex system, and it seems to have picked up a bunch of other projects like clef, noweb, and gcl, and like all good lisp systems, even recursive project dependencies like gcl has it's own bfd, @@ -8045,56 +4735,11 @@ have any expectation of using configure to build axiom, but how far down do we plan to go? I saw Gaby is seriously considering integrating gcl and gcc. - ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig330155D1B5CA1618FE2CF4E2 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFSqPhO8aX8Tqx8vgRAtmsAKCt+VPSgRb4Qy6Fje3UlD8lh5eLtQCfS2JL -fYDVNhgJmJnTpM7iSo4p1hU= -=KXEs ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig330155D1B5CA1618FE2CF4E2-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfojO-0006CF-AQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:24:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfojM-00069t-EW - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:24:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfojJ-00067q-FU - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:24:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfojJ-00067d-5E - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:24:25 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.178] (helo=mail58c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfojI-00029G-UV - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:24:25 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail58c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA32NXex004430; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 21:23:52 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Waldek Hebisch'" Waldek Hebisch, - "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 21:23:14 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Waldek Hebisch, Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Gaby and Waldek, @@ -8223,45 +4868,13 @@ On October 27, 2006 3:58 PM Bill Page wrote: > Right. Gold. > ... - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfoyu-0003Qb-JP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:40:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfoyt-0003PL-EC - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:40:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfoyr-0003N0-Vp - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:40:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfoyr-0003Mn-El - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:40:29 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfoyr-00056I-EO - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:40:29 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8F34F3B0; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 03:40:24 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA32ZuHL022129; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 03:35:59 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA32ZuK9022128; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 03:35:56 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: Re: Turtles all the way down. -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 03 Nov 2006 03:35:56 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: Turtles all the way down. -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: | Axiom's a pretty complex system, and it seems to have picked up a bunch | of other projects like clef, noweb, and gcl, and like all good lisp @@ -8326,47 +4939,11 @@ However, GCL's configure.in issue is easily solved though. What specifically did you want to do with malloc/malloc.h? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfp10-0000JV-Uo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:42:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfp0z-0000El-G5 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:42:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfp0x-00009L-LQ - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:42:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfp0x-00008o-GE - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:42:39 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfp0x-0005XT-0z - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:42:39 -0500 -Received: (qmail 24877 invoked by uid 7797); 3 Nov 2006 02:39:37 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.097093 secs); 03 Nov 2006 02:39:37 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 3 Nov 2006 02:39:37 -0000 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:42:26 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: Turtles all the way down. - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig2DC1E343A9F8F2FEFE925C6D" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig2DC1E343A9F8F2FEFE925C6D Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: > Axiom's a pretty complex system, and it seems to have picked up a bunch= @@ -8385,62 +4962,13 @@ le. :-) ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig2DC1E343A9F8F2FEFE925C6D - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFSqyZO8aX8Tqx8vgRAlYdAJ944WnVC1lBiiBE1J6tt2CSAtTd6ACgpW0Z -CyRIMZqO9i545SFRClUVgBo= -=VItS ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig2DC1E343A9F8F2FEFE925C6D-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfp8S-0001eC-J4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:50:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfp8R-0001Zz-IR - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:50:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfp8Q-0001W2-KD - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:50:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfp8Q-0001Vl-Df - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:50:22 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfp8Q-0006gu-DV - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:50:22 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AB740FBF; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 03:50:11 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA32jiXI022231; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 03:45:46 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA32jitg022230; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 03:45:44 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 03 Nov 2006 03:45:43 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -8497,49 +5025,11 @@ principle- to merge existing branches to whatever becomes The trunk. This clarifiers the terminology for me. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfpFT-0006qq-41 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:57:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfpFQ-0006kv-T3 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:57:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfpFP-0006fc-8I - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:57:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfpFO-0006em-F7 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:57:34 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfpFO-00084L-Bi - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:57:34 -0500 -Received: (qmail 25494 invoked by uid 7797); 3 Nov 2006 02:54:32 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.094934 secs); 03 Nov 2006 02:54:32 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 3 Nov 2006 02:54:32 -0000 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:57:21 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: configure changes for intel mac - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig3A42F976883FBD514E3C3772" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig3A42F976883FBD514E3C3772 Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -8549,9 +5039,9 @@ Add i386-macosx to powerpc-macosx test for malloc/malloc.h: $ cvs diff -Nau configure.in Index: configure.in -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +================= RCS file: /sources/gcl/gcl/configure.in,v retrieving revision 1.112.4.1.2.2.2.47.2.3.2.1.4.2.4.2.4.24 diff -a -u -r1.112.4.1.2.2.2.47.2.3.2.1.4.2.4.2.4.24 configure.in @@ -8562,8 +5052,8 @@ diff -a -u -r1.112.4.1.2.2.2.47.2.3.2.1.4.2.4.2.4.24 configure.in fi fi --if test "$use" =3D "powerpc-macosx" ; then -+if test "$use" =3D "powerpc-macosx" -o "$use" =3D "i386-macosx" ; then +-if test "$use" = "powerpc-macosx" ; then ++if test "$use" = "powerpc-macosx" -o "$use" = "i386-macosx" ; then AC_CHECK_HEADER(malloc/malloc.h,[AC_DEFINE([HAVE_MALLOC_MALLOC_H])], [AC_CHECK_HEADER(objc/malloc.h,[AC_DEFINE([HAVE_OBJC_MALLOC_H])], [AC_MSG_ERROR([need malloc.h on macosx])])]) @@ -8571,108 +5061,65 @@ diff -a -u -r1.112.4.1.2.2.2.47.2.3.2.1.4.2.4.2.4.24 configure.in The build still won't work, but I've made some progress. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig3A42F976883FBD514E3C3772 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFSrAYO8aX8Tqx8vgRAufaAKCDbMS/S6ciswNa6FqyDPOCp4UhZgCggBA2 -5raThlxraC0eksRNe6+B4so= -=y0qG ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig3A42F976883FBD514E3C3772-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfpMk-0002id-KX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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On November 2, 2006 2:30 PM Tim Daly wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > chdir /tmp/powerpc-apple-darwin6 -> export AXIOM=3D`pwd` +> export AXIOM=`pwd` > cd bin > ./AXIOMsys ->=20 +> > starts ok, loads databases, but typing 1 at the axiom prompt hangs. ->=20 +> Very odd. :-( On November 2, 2006 2:36 PM Tim Daly wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > chdir /tmp/powerpc-apple-darwin6 -> export AXIOM=3D`pwd` +> export AXIOM=`pwd` > cd bin > ./AXIOMsys ->=20 +> > -> )set mes auto on ->=20 +> > Error: The variable BLOCK is unbound > >> :bt -> #0 APPLY (loc0=3D# system:universal-error-handler>,loc1=3D:unbound-variable...} [ihs=3D7] -> #1 APPLY (loc0=3D# system:universal-error-handler>,loc1=3D:unbound-variable...} [ihs=3D6] +> #0 APPLY (loc0=# system:universal-error-handler>,loc1=:unbound-variable...} [ihs=7] +> #1 APPLY (loc0=# system:universal-error-handler>,loc1=:unbound-variable...} [ihs=6] > Error: NIL is an illegal ihs index ->=20 +> > Error signalled by SYSTEM::DBL-BACKTRACE -> Backtrace: system:univeral-error-handler > system::break-call=20 -> > system::dbl-backtrace -> system:ihs-fun > lambda >=20 +> Backtrace: system:univeral-error-handler > system::break-call +> > system::dbl-backtrace -> system:ihs-fun > lambda > > lambda-closure > block > apply > APPLY ->=20 +> This looks like a Lisp problem, but on the SourceForge compile farm MAC OSX server where I compiled this binary I get: @@ -8686,8 +5133,8 @@ ppc-osx3:~/osx $ export `pwd`/local/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 bash: export: = `/home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/local/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8': not a valid identifier -ppc-osx3:~/osx $ export AXIOM=3D`pwd`/local/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 -ppc-osx3:~/osx $ export PATH=3D$AXIOM/bin:$PATH +ppc-osx3:~/osx $ export AXIOM=`pwd`/local/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 +ppc-osx3:~/osx $ export PATH=$AXIOM/bin:$PATH ppc-osx3:~/osx $ AXIOMsys GCL (GNU Common Lisp) 2.6.8 CLtL1 Nov 1 2006 17:41:53 @@ -8735,25 +5182,25 @@ ppc-osx3:~/osx $ exit -------- On November 2, 2006 3:08 PM Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga wrote: ->=20 +> > Bill Page wrote: -> >=20 +> > > > Please download the new binary for AXIOMsys on MAC OSX PowerPC from: -> >=20 +> > > > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/public/AXIOMsys-ppc-20061102.tgz ->=20 +> > Testing on PowerPC Mac OS X 10.4.8: ->=20 -> $ export AXIOM=3D/tmp/axiom/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 -> $ export PATH=3D$AXIOM/bin:$PATH +> +> $ export AXIOM=/tmp/axiom/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8 +> $ export PATH=$AXIOM/bin:$PATH > $ AXIOMsys > GCL (GNU Common Lisp) 2.6.8 CLtL1 Nov 1 2006 17:41:53 > Source License: LGPL(gcl,gmp), GPL(unexec,bfd,xgcl) > Binary License: GPL due to GPL'ed components: (BFD UNEXEC) -> Modifications of this banner must retain notice of a=20 +> Modifications of this banner must retain notice of a > compatible license > Dedicated to the memory of W. Schelter ->=20 +> > Use (help) to get some basic information on how to use GCL. > Temporary directory for compiler files set to /tmp/ > AXIOM Computer Algebra System @@ -8764,13 +5211,13 @@ On November 2, 2006 3:08 PM Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga wrote: > Issue )summary for a summary of useful system commands. > Issue )quit to leave AXIOM and return to shell. > -------------------------------------------------------------- ->=20 +> > Re-reading compress.daase Re-reading interp.daase > Re-reading operation.daase > Re-reading category.daase > Re-reading browse.daase > Illegal instruction ->=20 +> I would like to be able to explain the differences between Tim Daly's results above and this one. Could you both please provide @@ -8779,17 +5226,17 @@ system? What cpu? What version of OSX? On November 2, 2006 4:37 PM Raymond Manzoni wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > I got this time on my OSX 10.4.8 PPC : ->=20 +> > $ AXIOMsys > GCL (GNU Common Lisp) 2.6.8 CLtL1 Nov 1 2006 17:41:53 > Source License: LGPL(gcl,gmp), GPL(unexec,bfd,xgcl) > Binary License: GPL due to GPL'ed components: (BFD UNEXEC) -> Modifications of this banner must retain notice of a=20 +> Modifications of this banner must retain notice of a > compatible license > Dedicated to the memory of W. Schelter ->=20 +> > Use (help) to get some basic information on how to use GCL. > Temporary directory for compiler files set to /tmp/ > AXIOM Computer Algebra System @@ -8813,15 +5260,15 @@ Can you give me any more specific information about the cpu? Can you suggest some command that I can give to the SourceForge compile farm OSX system that I am using that will give equivalent information for comparison? -=20 + > =09 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > I tried to launch it with gdb (my first use of gdb...) and got : > (gdb) run > ... > Re-reading browse.daase ->=20 -> Program received signal EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION, Illegal instruction/=20 +> +> Program received signal EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION, Illegal instruction/ > operand. > 0x00de9c44 in socket_mask () > (gdb) up @@ -8833,35 +5280,35 @@ information for comparison? If we compile gcl with the .configure option --enable-debug, then we can get a more detailed traceback that Camm Maguire (gcl developer) should be able to use to help diagnose the problem. -=20 ->=20 + +> > -------------------------------------------------------------- -> The CrashReporter (Library/Logs/AXIOMsys.crash.log=20 +> The CrashReporter (Library/Logs/AXIOMsys.crash.log > file) reported : ->=20 +> > Host Name: Raym > Date/Time: 2006-11-02 21:54:40.899 +0100 > OS Version: 10.4.8 (Build 8L127) > Report Version: 4 ->=20 +> > Command: AXIOMsys > Path: /Users/raym/Desktop/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/bin/AXIOMsys > Parent: bash [244] ->=20 +> > Version: ??? (???) ->=20 +> > PID: 247 > Thread: 0 ->=20 +> > Exception: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (0x0002) > Code[0]: 0x00000002 > Code[1]: 0x00de9c44 -> ...=20 ->=20 -> Looks as if it tried to execute the instruction=20 -> '0x00000002' called =20 +> ... +> +> Looks as if it tried to execute the instruction +> '0x00000002' called > by 0x00de9c44 (socket_mask?)... not too good... ->=20 +> > Ready for more tests, At this point I am not sure exactly what to do. @@ -8885,53 +5332,11 @@ recommend pulling the most recent sources from the build- improvements branch on SourceForge. 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On November 2, 2006 10:25 PM Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > The machine is a Dual G5 running OS X 10.4.8. ->=20 +> > neverblows:~/src/working humberto$ arch > ppc > neverblows:~/src/working humberto$ uname -a @@ -9123,13 +5429,13 @@ On November 2, 2006 10:25 PM Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: > ProductVersion: 10.4.8 > BuildVersion: 8L127 > neverblows:~/src/working humberto$ system_profiler -detailLevel mini ->=20 +> > hangs, but prints out a bunch of information including: ->=20 +> > Hardware: ->=20 +> > Hardware Overview: ->=20 +> > Machine Name: Power Mac G5 > Machine Model: PowerMac7,3 > CPU Type: PowerPC G5 (3.0) @@ -9139,15 +5445,15 @@ On November 2, 2006 10:25 PM Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: > Memory: 4 GB > Bus Speed: 1.25 GHz > Boot ROM Version: 5.1.8f7 ->=20 +> ----------------- SourceForge Compile Farm MAC OSX 10.2 Server: -=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D PuTTY log 2006.11.02 = +=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= PuTTY log 2006.11.02 = 22:39:52 -=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D~=3D +=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= system_profiler -detailLevel mini ppc-osx3:~/osx $ sw_versuname -aarchexitarch ppc @@ -9168,18 +5474,18 @@ ppc-osx3:~/osx $ sw_versuname -aarchsystem_profiler -detailLevel mini Overview: Software Overview: - =20 + System version: Mac OS X Server 10.2.8 (6R73) [ Mac OS X 10.2.8 = (6R73) ] Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 6.8: Wed Sep 10 15:20:55 PDT -2003; root:xnu/xnu-344.49.obj~2/RELEASE_PPC =20 - Boot volume:=20 +2003; root:xnu/xnu-344.49.obj~2/RELEASE_PPC + Boot volume: User name: Bill Page (billpage) - =20 + Hardware Overview: - =20 - Machine model: RackMac1,2 (version =3D 3.3) + + Machine model: RackMac1,2 (version = 3.3) Number of processors: 2 Bus speed: 167 MHz Machine speed: 1.333 Ghz @@ -9188,170 +5494,143 @@ Overview: Customer serial number: XB31000F-N9C L3 cache size: 2MB (times 2) Sales order number: Not available - =20 + Memory Overview: - =20 + DIMM0/J21: 512 MB DDR SDRAM DIMM1/J22: DIMM2/J23: DIMM3/J20: - =20 + Network Overview: - =20 + Built-in: - =20 + Ethernet address: 00.03.93.CC.38.84 Flags: 0x8863 IP: 10.8.5.44 Broadcast: 10.8.255.255 Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0 - =20 + : - =20 + Ethernet address: 00.03.93.F4.0D.72 Flags: 0x8863 - =20 + Built-in: - =20 + Ethernet address: 00.0A.27.CC.38.84 Flags: 0x8863 - =20 - =20 + + Devices: PCI/AGP: - =20 + pci106b,9: - =20 + Bus: PCI Device ID: 0x000016a7 Revision ID: 0x00000002 Vendor ID: 0x000014e4 - =20 + ATY,BlueStar: - =20 + Model: ATY,RV100 Type: display Bus: PCI Device ID: 0x00005159 Revision ID: 0x00000000 Vendor ID: 0x00001002 - =20 + AppleKiwi: - =20 + Type: pci-ide Bus: PCI Device ID: 0x00006269 Revision ID: 0x00000003 Vendor ID: 0x0000105a - =20 + AppleKiwi: - =20 + Type: pci-ide Bus: PCI Device ID: 0x00006269 Revision ID: 0x00000003 Vendor ID: 0x0000105a - =20 + IDE (ATA-4) Bus: - =20 + CD-ROM: - =20 - Model: QSI CD-ROM TCR-241 =20 - Revision: WL09 =20 - Serial Number: =20 + + Model: QSI CD-ROM TCR-241 + Revision: WL09 + Serial Number: Device Type: ATAPI - =20 + USB 1.1 Bus: - =20 + Bus Power (mA): 500 Speed: Full Speed Product ID: 32773 ($8005) Serial Number: 0 Vendor Name: Apple Computer, Inc. - =20 + Hub in Apple Extended USB Keyboard: - =20 + Bus Power (mA): 500 Speed: Full Speed Product ID: 4099 ($1003) Serial Number: 0 Vendor Name: Mitsumi Electric - =20 + Apple Extended USB Keyboard: - =20 + Bus Power (mA): 250 Speed: Full Speed Product ID: 523 ($20b) Serial Number: 0 Vendor Name: Mitsumi Electric - =20 + Apple Optical USB Mouse: - =20 + Bus Power (mA): 100 Speed: Low Speed Product ID: 772 ($304) Serial Number: 0 Vendor Name: Mitsumi Electric - =20 + USB 1.1 Bus: - =20 + Bus Power (mA): 500 Speed: Full Speed Product ID: 32773 ($8005) Serial Number: 0 Vendor Name: Apple Computer, Inc. - =20 + FireWire Bus: - =20 + BSD Name: en2 - =20 + FireWire Device: - =20 + Speed: 400 Mb/sec Speed - =20 + Modem Information: - =20 + Modem Device: - =20 + Modem: (V.90) Driver: (v1.2.3) - Country:=20 + Country: Modem In Use By: sshd, bash, system_profiler, lsof - =20 -=20 - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfqIK-0000pF-Nf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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You might also need the openpty patch provided earlier today by Waldek Hebisch. -Good Luck! - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfqYn-0005TD-M1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:21:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfqYl-0005QC-RO - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:21:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfqYj-0005Nj-So - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:21:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfqYj-0005Nb-K3 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:21:37 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfqYj-00054P-DR - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:21:37 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4550040F5A; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 05:21:34 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA34H7Kg023522; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 05:17:09 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA34H74t023521; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 05:17:07 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 03 Nov 2006 05:17:07 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -9467,43 +5710,11 @@ Cc: list I believe that was a dependency thinko that was fixed by a patch from Waldek. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfqct-0005PE-3K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:25:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfqcr-0005LR-W6 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:25:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfqco-0005Aw-K1 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:25:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfqco-0005AR-DT - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:25:50 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfqcc-0005Tw-5S - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:25:42 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA34PErp020880 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:25:23 -0500 -Received: (qmail 11740 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2006 04:25:15 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 3 Nov 2006 04:25:15 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA34FNI09921; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:15:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:15:23 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: humberto@hpcf.upr.edu - Ortiz-Zuazaga on Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:05:14 -0400) +From: Tim Daly +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: Turtles all the way down. -Cc: list > Axiom's a pretty complex system, and it seems to have picked up a bunch > of other projects like clef, noweb, and gcl, and like all good lisp @@ -9598,45 +5809,11 @@ and work "bottom up", insisting that the tools should shape the ideas. The results lie somewhere in between. Running code tends to determine the actual result. - -Tim - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfqdn-0008HC-H7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:26:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfqdm-0008B3-4F - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:26:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gfqdk-00084T-BT - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:26:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfqdk-00084G-6x - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:26:48 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gfqdk-0005gM-4W - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:26:48 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA34QUaC017462 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:26:38 -0500 -Received: (qmail 5507 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2006 04:26:30 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Waldek Hebisch; 3 Nov 2006 04:26:30 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA34Gh009929; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:16:43 -0500 +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:16:43 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Cc: list Bill, @@ -9649,43 +5826,11 @@ Bill, I believe this process is complete. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfqoM-0007hX-6p - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:37:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfqoJ-0007er-Tp - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:37:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfqoI-0007dC-J6 - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:37:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfqoI-0007d9-Ce - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:37:42 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfqoI-0007OI-9k - for list; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:37:42 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA34baCF021929 - for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:37:36 -0500 -Received: (qmail 865 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2006 04:37:36 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 3 Nov 2006 04:37:36 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA34Rng09942; - Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:27:49 -0500 +\start Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:27:49 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Cc: list > I would like to be able to explain the differences between Tim > Daly's results above and this one. Could you both please provide @@ -9707,45 +5852,13 @@ Darwin dalys-Computer.local 8.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.4.0: Tue Jan 3 18:22:10 PST 2006; root:xnu-792.6.56.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfrGg-0004R9-8u - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:07:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfrGe-0004Lp-K8 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:07:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfrGd-0004GY-Iv - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:06:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfrGd-0004FU-Az - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:06:59 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfrGc-0003vl-VH - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:06:59 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AA24F3B8; 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So the questions are: axiom--silver--1 (if both versions are identical, then the robot could easily identify a duplicate). - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzED-0008NA-5K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:37:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzEB-0008LC-Id - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:36:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzE6-0008E2-96 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:36:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfzE5-0008Dl-Te - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:36:54 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GfzE5-0004nt-E6 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:36:53 -0500 -Received: (qmail 15823 invoked by uid 7797); 3 Nov 2006 13:33:48 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.176332 secs); 03 Nov 2006 13:33:48 -0000 - list, Gabriel Dos Reis -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 3 Nov 2006 13:33:48 -0000 +\start Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:36:30 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Bill Page Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enigC0708FF154AB6111C18F4160" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enigC0708FF154AB6111C18F4160 Bill Page wrote: @@ -9953,9 +5955,9 @@ Bill Page wrote: >> svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/axiom/ \ >> branches/build-improvements axiom.build-improvements >> ->=20 +> > Yes. ->=20 +> Can't svn co the source, I've tried several times from a clean slate and get: @@ -10000,62 +6002,11 @@ to p': No such file or directory - ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enigC0708FF154AB6111C18F4160 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFS0XoO8aX8Tqx8vgRAsquAJwPoP1xs7bInT5M7IROc2m/IoEhdACglByv -4MFcxJpzmppYe2316FhdvGM= -=4NjY ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enigC0708FF154AB6111C18F4160-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzYv-0003LK-Ob - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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I seem to remember that Waldek proposed to remove one of them. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzxQ-0004VA-FY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:23:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzxO-0004So-VM - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:23:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzxK-0004G7-3m - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:23:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfzxJ-0004Fe-TJ - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:23:37 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfzxJ-0006We-QN - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:23:38 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gfzw4-0002Gp-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:22:20 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:22:20 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -> Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +> Humberto Zuazaga writes: > | svn: In directory > | 'axiom.build-improvements/axiom/trunk/axiom/src/hyper/pages' > | svn: Can't copy @@ -10254,46 +6127,13 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: Not yet. In a message that I sent few minutes ago I proposed to rename 'poly.ht' to 'polys.ht' and 'poly.pht' to 'polys.pht'. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzzR-0000QZ-14 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzzO-0000MP-7D - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzzH-00008K-5h - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfzzG-00007D-Ok - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:38 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfzzG-0006sR-Ni - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:38 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0644641096; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:25:36 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3EL7fI031054; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:21:09 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3EL7He031053; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:21:07 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 03 Nov 2006 15:21:07 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | Tim, | @@ -10314,87 +6154,23 @@ Cc: list the .arch-ids subdirectories should also disappear from silver --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzzS-0000UB-A5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzzQ-0000PX-5o - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GfzzJ-0000Cf-Go - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfzzI-0000CD-TJ - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:40 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GfzzI-0006sZ-M8 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:25:41 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA3EPI5L026810 - for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:25:22 -0500 -Received: (qmail 2165 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2006 14:25:20 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 3 Nov 2006 14:25:20 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA3EFad10556; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:15:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:15:36 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Cc: list > How about the \r problem? still looking into it. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg03X-0001BF-EJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:30:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg03V-00017B-RY - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:30:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg03U-000133-1A - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:30:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg03S-00011F-Pd - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:29:58 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg03S-0007UH-No - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:29:58 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090774F40D; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:29:48 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3EPRdW031058; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:25:29 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3EPR9q031057; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:25:27 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 03 Nov 2006 15:25:27 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <200611031348.kA3DmHX10521@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 15:25:27 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > 1) removal of 'zips/tla-1.1.tar.gz'. | @@ -10402,44 +6178,13 @@ root Tim Daly writes: done on silver. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg06K-0006nu-RU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:32:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg06I-0006lD-Br - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:32:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg06G-0006io-OC - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:32:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg06G-0006iI-GM - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:32:52 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg06G-00082W-AN - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:32:52 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792574F3F0; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:32:42 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3ESL9u031297; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:28:23 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3ESL0w031296; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:28:21 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 03 Nov 2006 15:28:20 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -10464,49 +6209,14 @@ This particular issue has nothing to do with SVN on SF. It is a brain-damaged filesystem issue. Ben from Google explained the problem a couple of days ago. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0EV-00005g-4K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:41:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0EU-0008W9-2z - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:41:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0EP-0008Og-Bo - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:41:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg0EP-0008OL-6S - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:41:17 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg0EO-000156-Og - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:41:17 -0500 -Received: (qmail 20011 invoked by uid 7797); 3 Nov 2006 14:38:14 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 4.522656 secs); 03 Nov 2006 14:38:14 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 3 Nov 2006 14:38:09 -0000 Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:40:55 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig897EF8D43247D4EA85FEA4B0" - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig897EF8D43247D4EA85FEA4B0 Bill Page wrote: ->=20 +> > Welcome to SVN on SourceForge ... ;) No, that's what I get for trying to develop on Mac OS X, a.k.a, the @@ -10519,56 +6229,11 @@ http://page.axiom-developer.org/repository/axiom-darcs/ now, and if that fails, I'll just pull the sources on a linux box and rsync them over to the mac. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig897EF8D43247D4EA85FEA4B0 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFS1T/O8aX8Tqx8vgRAm4jAJ92EEisOoWSs8RScDpl4ZDA+Cod8ACfVtjF -dX35xm5aeX1siYY+3rJz0KU= -=wWbA ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig897EF8D43247D4EA85FEA4B0-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0H5-0005M4-JJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:44:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0H2-0005F5-Aw - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:44:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0Gx-0004z2-Ft - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:43:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg0Gx-0004yf-43 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:43:55 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg0Gw-0001et-VK - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:43:55 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA3Ehi32028739 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:43:44 +0100 +\start Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:45:46 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Cc: list On 11/03/2006 12:23 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -10615,44 +6280,11 @@ If we all agreed to send patches to Tim for review, then I would say no. Silver should always be the same on axiom--silver--1, SF-/silver Google/trunk (or is it also Google/silver?). -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0Rq-0001mK-Uf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:55:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0Ro-0001i0-Lx - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:55:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0Rk-0001aa-Vl - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:55:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg0Rk-0001Zy-Nk - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:55:04 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg0Rk-0003wX-FO - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:55:04 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA3Espiw018610 - for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:54:51 -0500 -Received: (qmail 20699 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2006 14:54:52 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Bill Page; 3 Nov 2006 14:54:52 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA3Ej8N10603; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:45:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:45:08 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 03 Nov 2006 15:28:20 +0100) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - -Cc: list > axiom.build-improvements/axiom/trunk/axiom/src/hyper/pages/HTX > FormatPage5.ht @@ -10676,45 +6308,13 @@ delete changes to fix the host, and restart the process from scratch. svn cleanup does nothing (or at least it doesn't clean up). the whole dance cost me 8 hours. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0jj-0000If-03 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:13:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0jh-0000FT-5o - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:13:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg0jb-00007M-TJ - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:13:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg0jb-00007B-Ou - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:13:31 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg0jb-0007yX-Jm - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:13:31 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F016741094; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:13:29 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3F90GJ031944; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:09:02 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3F904O031943; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:09:00 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:09:00 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On November 3, 2006 9:13 AM Gaby wrote: | > | @@ -10764,43 +6364,11 @@ Bill, forget about SVN for a moment. How to you plan to keep POLY.pht and poly.pht as separate files in the same directory using a case preserving and case insensitive filesystem? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1Mo-0002Gs-Sn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:54:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1Mm-0002Fx-83 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:54:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1Mh-0002Dc-7L - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:53:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg1Mh-0002DZ-3i - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:53:55 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg1Mh-0008Hd-37 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:53:55 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563754F3D5; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:53:44 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3FnNFS000417; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:49:25 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3FnN3o000416; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:49:23 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:49:22 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <454B561A.9020503@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:49:22 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -10867,47 +6435,16 @@ As I have stated publically, I'm not a big fan of "forks". But at this very point I'm considering very seriously about forking and be done with it. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1Oc-00039A-SP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:55:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1Oa-00038T-L4 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:55:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1OZ-000388-7T - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:55:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg1OZ-000385-4L - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:55:51 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg1OY-0000Yc-SQ - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:55:51 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F764105F; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:55:48 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3FpJ4m000571; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:51:21 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3FpJ9W000570; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:51:19 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:51:19 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:51:19 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -| > Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +| > Humberto Zuazaga writes: | > | svn: In directory | > | 'axiom.build-improvements/axiom/trunk/axiom/src/hyper/pages' | > | svn: Can't copy @@ -10928,46 +6465,13 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: Please go ahead and commit to build-improvements. Add an explanation (in the pamphlets) about the renaming. -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1SW-0006xP-A9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:59:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1SV-0006vh-Cv - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:59:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg1ST-0006s1-2r - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:59:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg1SS-0006rn-VL - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:59:53 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg1SS-0001Ef-Uq - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:59:53 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8284F403; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:59:42 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3FtLSo000586; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:55:23 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3FtLXQ000585; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:55:21 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:55:21 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -10979,33 +6483,11 @@ Cc: list they just corrupt the source tree :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4X6-00047Q-HU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:16:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4X5-00046t-5M - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:16:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4X1-00046I-FH - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:16:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg4X1-00046F-CK - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:16:47 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg4X1-0004GN-6l - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:16:47 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gg4Vv-0004Q4-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 20:15:39 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:15:39 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -11042,41 +6524,9 @@ is a screen dump of a graphic window containig a parabola. I can not really see 'SEGBIND.ps' because it triggers Postscript stack error in ghostscript (like many other files in 'src/doc/ps' :(. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4bP-0005yJ-UY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:21:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4bN-0005vl-Tw - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:21:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4bI-0005pH-Ub - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:21:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg4bI-0005p2-NX - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:21:12 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg4bI-00056w-BY - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:21:12 -0500 -Received: (qmail 1133 invoked by uid 7797); 3 Nov 2006 19:18:09 -0000 -Received: from 136.145.54.123 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(136.145.54.123):. - Processed in 0.032208 secs); 03 Nov 2006 19:18:09 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?136.145.54.123?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@136.145.54.123) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 3 Nov 2006 19:18:09 -0000 +\start Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:22:54 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list Subject: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! @@ -11112,48 +6562,13 @@ Success! darcs or the Mac mangled the permissions on configure and config/mkinstalldirs, the rest went smoothly. --- -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -UPR Bioinformatics Resource Center -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4ef-0000h1-S1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:24:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4ee-0000e8-Dz - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:24:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4eY-0000VJ-Qs - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:24:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg4eY-0000V2-MH - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:24:34 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg4eY-0005ac-E1 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:24:34 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B2B40F6C; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:24:32 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3JK2v9004497; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:20:04 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3JK2Ec004496; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:20:02 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 03 Nov 2006 17:34:22 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -11233,42 +6648,11 @@ However, I see practical issue here: as efficient. I consider that an extraodinary waste of time and resources. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4id-0005pD-0f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:28:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4ib-0005nU-DW - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:28:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg4iZ-0005l2-1P - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:28:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg4iY-0005ku-Ql - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:28:42 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg4iY-000679-KV - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:28:42 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B35640E27; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:28:40 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3JOAQ8004513; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:24:13 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3JOAol004512; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:24:10 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 03 Nov 2006 20:24:10 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 20:24:10 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -11303,33 +6687,12 @@ I'll come back to you later. Thanks for the detective work. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5P2-0005HI-Or - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:12:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5P0-0005Cf-U5 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:12:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5Oz-0005AB-VA - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:12:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg5Oz-0005A0-O7 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:12:33 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg5Oz-0006Ev-86 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:12:33 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gg5NT-0000Dx-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:10:59 +0100 -Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 21:10:59 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf +Cc: Camm Maguire Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > I would like to see the final patch, e.g. the things that would be @@ -11376,45 +6739,12 @@ diff -ru build-improvements.bb/src/interp/sockio.lisp.pamphlet build-improvement (defentry sock_get_float (int) (double "sock_get_float")) (defentry sock_send_float (int double) (int "sock_send_float")) - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5d1-0004VH-6p - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:27:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5cz-0004VB-Lb - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:27:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5cy-0004Uz-QQ - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:27:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg5cy-0004Uw-No - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:27:00 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg5cy-0008CV-L5 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:27:00 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BEF40F6A; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 21:26:58 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3KMPiR006362; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 21:22:27 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3KMP6m006361; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 21:22:25 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 03 Nov 2006 21:22:24 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 21:22:24 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -11426,40 +6756,11 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: OK for build-improvements. -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5nz-00060m-At - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:38:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5nx-0005xB-Jf - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:38:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg5nw-0005v4-Lz - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:38:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg5nw-0005ul-IK - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:38:20 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg5nw-0002Pv-3R - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:38:20 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA3Kbv32006253 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 21:37:58 +0100 Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:39:59 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Cc: list On 11/03/2006 05:22 PM, Bill Page wrote: > On November 3, 2006 10:49 AM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -11521,39 +6822,11 @@ Thank you, Bill. I appreciate all your work. I was just a bit puzzled. ... and should be condidered as read-only except for Bill's Tailor-program. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6Aw-0006Vt-F9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:02:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6At-0006SB-51 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:02:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6As-0006RA-Bp - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:02:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg6As-0006R1-7h - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:02:02 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg6Ar-0005i4-E1 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:02:01 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA3L1c32006828 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 22:01:43 +0100 Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:03:40 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - -Cc: list > I'm very happy to see Tim is making changes more visible now, than waiting > for ages before seeing light. The main reason I originally volunteered to @@ -11618,33 +6891,11 @@ problem as long as it is clearly described which directory contains what. I share your efficiency considerations, though. But up to now, it wasn't a big problem. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6HF-0005kK-3u - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:08:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6HD-0005j0-2H - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:08:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6H7-0005dd-Si - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:08:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg6H7-0005dM-MD - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:08:29 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg6H7-0006ju-8T - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:08:29 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gg6G9-0004H1-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:07:29 +0100 -Subject: Re: viewport in build-improvements -To: Tim Daly Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 22:07:29 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: viewport in build-improvements root wrote: > > > Sure many files *look* like text files, but you have heard Tim saying that @@ -11692,46 +6943,11 @@ SCM-s or alternatively some other "higher level SCM" may use GIT as a backend. ATM the main strong point of GIT is its packing algoritm, but alone that is too little to win. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6Z8-0005OC-PR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:27:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6Z6-0005Nc-Hr - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:27:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg6Z5-0005NI-Hh - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:27:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg6Z5-0005NF-EE - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:27:03 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg6Z5-0001zo-62 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:27:03 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB99E40FEC; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 22:27:00 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA3LMU61008239; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 22:22:33 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA3LMUNC008238; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 22:22:30 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 03 Nov 2006 22:22:30 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - <454BAEAC.1090509@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 03 Nov 2006 22:22:30 +0100 -Cc: Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -11812,35 +7028,11 @@ to see those changes spread as quickly as possible. Also, you should get in the habit of crediting developers responsabilities -- they should commit themselves. There are lots of things you learn that way :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg7Hz-0006y6-J6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:13:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg7Hy-0006vu-3r - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:13:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg7Hx-0006um-9s - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:13:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg7Hx-0006uW-49 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:13:25 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.1] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg7Hw-000130-LY - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:13:25 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-71-81.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-71-81.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.186.81]) - by mwinf1906.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 118521C00095; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 23:13:22 +0100 (CET) -Subject: RE: hypertex and uses info -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Waldek Hebisch Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:13:27 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: RE: hypertex and uses info Waldek, @@ -12037,57 +7229,33 @@ build-improvements/src/interp/nlib.lisp.pamphlet #+:AKCL (if (library-file filearg) --- - Waldek Hebisch - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg80k-0004Gd-GV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:59:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg80h-0004G8-RT - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:59:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg80g-0004Fo-07 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:59:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg80f-0004Fk-Tp - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:59:37 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg7ea-0004BI-TB - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:36:49 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gg7dg-0001nu-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:35:52 +0100 -Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info -To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 23:35:52 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Axiom-Developer +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > Waldek, ->=20 -> > All versions of hypertex that I used crashed (or maybe showed=20 -> > nothing)=20 +> +> > All versions of hypertex that I used crashed (or maybe showed +> > nothing) > > when I clicked "Uses" or "Dependants" field in a description of a const= ructor. ->=20 +> > > AFAICS recent versions of Axiom have two problems here: ->=20 +> > > 1) databases which contain corresponding information (USERS.DAASE > > and DEPENDENTS.DAASE) were not installed > > 2) infamous 'probe-file' problem ->=20 +> > > The patch below correct both problems. It also fixes the > > "Cannot rename the file erlib to NRLIB" problem. I also added > > sensible dependency in database rule, so that all databses > > are re-made when one get out of date. And 'RDEFIOSTREAM' is > > now called in error-checking mode (old code happily passed > > bad pathnames and supressed error checking). ->=20 +> > I'm in the process of applying these patches. Do you know a situation whe= re > readLibPathFast is used on a non existent file ? Since you prefer to remo= @@ -12110,79 +7278,21 @@ BTW 3: IMHO the approach check first and then go on without checking has fundamental problems, Unix way "try and check if OK" works much better. ---=20 - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg8Bn-0001Ig-TU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:11:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg8Bl-0001Hq-TE - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:11:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg8Bj-0001EQ-7J - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:11:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg8Bi-0001EJ-WD - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:11:03 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg8Bi-0002Jw-JX - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:11:02 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA3NAovr001764 - for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 18:10:50 -0500 -Received: (qmail 14049 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2006 23:10:50 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Gregory Vanuxem; 3 Nov 2006 23:10:50 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA3N10810909; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 18:01:00 -0500 +\start Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 18:01:00 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Waldek Hebisch - Hebisch on Fri, 3 Nov 2006 23:35:52 +0100 (CET)) Subject: Re: hypertex and uses info -Cc: list Based on your extensive work would you consider being the person who maintains axiom--silver--1? That would settle one of the items raised by Gaby. -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg8nt-0000jY-6L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:50:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg8ns-0000gz-32 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:50:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg8nq-0000co-Fh - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:50:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg8nq-0000cN-6o - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:50:26 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg8nq-0007I0-6S - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:50:26 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gg8mv-0005uo-00; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:49:29 +0100 -Subject: Re: Maintainers -To: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:49:29 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: Maintainers root wrote: > Based on your extensive work would you consider being the @@ -12197,45 +7307,11 @@ Yes, however some clarificatinons are needed: 2) "one of persons who maintain ..." -- IIUC Gaby wants to avoid single point of failure (me too). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg9NQ-0004yf-5A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:27:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg9NO-0004yR-Oo - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:27:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gg9NN-0004y6-Vq - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:27:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg9NN-0004y3-J9 - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:27:09 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gg9NN-0004hH-GS - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:27:09 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA40Qu8B013808 - for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 19:26:59 -0500 -Received: (qmail 12413 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 00:26:56 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 00:26:56 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA40H6j10938; - Fri, 3 Nov 2006 19:17:06 -0500 +\start Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 19:17:06 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Waldek Hebisch - Hebisch on Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:49:29 +0100 (CET)) Subject: Re: Maintainers -Cc: list > > Based on your extensive work would you consider being the > > person who maintains axiom--silver--1? That would settle @@ -12309,36 +7385,11 @@ of contention with people at times. Think carefully about it and let me know. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgCOf-0008LY-Sj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:40:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgCOe-0008IH-Gu - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:40:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgCOc-0008E1-Qs - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:40:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgCOc-0008Dm-NJ - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:40:38 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.108] (helo=mail288.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgCOc-00054K-HA - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:40:38 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail288.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA43e9bt002161; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 22:40:19 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga'" -Subject: RE: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! +\start Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 22:39:49 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: RE: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! On November 3, 2006 2:23 PM Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga wrote: > @@ -12402,49 +7453,13 @@ Thanks for giving this a try. As far as I know, you are only the 2nd person to ever report successfully running Axiom on a MAC! :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgDXo-0000Np-VB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:54:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgDXn-0000Ml-0G - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:54:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgDXl-0000Le-8p - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:54:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgDXl-0000LV-5N - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:54:09 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgDXl-0006qx-5e - for list; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:54:09 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A5940F67; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 05:54:05 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA44nYmu014633; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 05:49:37 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA44nYqt014632; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 05:49:34 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 04 Nov 2006 05:49:34 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 05:49:34 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: [...] @@ -12480,37 +7495,11 @@ But, the check-in would have been approved after review, not before! Yes, indeed. And we should erase silver. . --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEB8-0007Z2-OA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:34:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEB6-0007YR-Qw - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:34:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEB6-0007YF-7v - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:34:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgEB6-0007YC-5b - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:34:48 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.29] (helo=mail209.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgEB6-0003su-1p - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:34:48 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail209.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA45YN5r015517; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:34:37 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Waldek Hebisch'" Waldek Hebisch, - "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:34:00 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Waldek Hebisch, +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 On November 3, 2006 2:16 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > @@ -12846,50 +7835,11 @@ ys.xbm zetak.bitmap zk.bitmap -------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEJO-0000YZ-4Z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:43:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEJM-0000Uu-GM - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:43:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEJI-0000Ng-VC - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:43:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgEJI-0000NR-RK - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:43:16 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgEJI-0006Tm-SX - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:43:17 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA45gu4b031074 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:43:05 -0500 -Received: (qmail 18316 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 05:42:57 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 05:42:57 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA45X9c11013; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:33:09 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:33:09 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 05:49:34 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | A "single point of control", however, is vitally important. > | You're basically "putting your name" on the dotted line @@ -12924,47 +7874,11 @@ there are a lot of "other tasks" besides checking in changes that need to be performed in order to keep a silver version. who would have the responsibility to do this? -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEKx-0004HR-QI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:44:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEKw-0004EK-C2 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:44:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEKu-00049R-KE - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:44:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgEKu-000493-A6 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:44:56 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgEKu-0006eO-9q - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:44:56 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA45inJQ031449 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:44:49 -0500 -Received: (qmail 21217 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 05:44:50 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 05:44:50 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA45Z2M11017; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:35:02 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:35:02 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 05:49:34 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > But, the check-in would have been approved after review, not before! @@ -12978,44 +7892,13 @@ The check-in needs to be reviewed after it is committed by the author to make sure their changes are all correctly applied and by the silver maintainer to make sure that nothing broke. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEMP-000771-Fg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:46:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEMN-00073g-Fi - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:46:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEML-00070P-SM - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:46:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgEML-00070A-OB - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:46:25 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgEML-0006tM-OL - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:46:25 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD644F3BF; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 06:46:21 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA45fqSi015183; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 06:41:54 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA45fqlh015182; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 06:41:52 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 04 Nov 2006 06:41:52 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On November 3, 2006 2:16 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: | > @@ -13092,45 +7975,11 @@ Before deletion, we have to determine that they are not referenced at runtime through name generation on the fly. Do you know whether that can ever happen? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEMy-0007Y6-Mu - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:47:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEMw-0007Xn-LN - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:47:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEMu-0007Xa-TV - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:47:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgEMu-0007XX-Q2 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:47:00 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgEMu-0006wQ-Na - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:47:00 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA45kfwC010560 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:46:49 -0500 -Received: (qmail 4659 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 05:46:42 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 05:46:42 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA45asu11021; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:36:54 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:36:54 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 05:49:34 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | Just because it works does not make it right for the project. > @@ -13138,38 +7987,11 @@ Cc: list "Sometimes humor is the only possible solution" -- Tim Daly -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEf6-0003CF-Cf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:05:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEf4-00038w-3Z - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:05:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEf3-00037K-2J - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:05:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgEf2-00036n-QM - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:05:44 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.81] (helo=mail261.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgEf2-0001Wy-9A - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:05:44 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail261.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA465OWF027027; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:05:34 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:05:04 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:05:04 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On November 3, 2006 11:34 AM Gaby wrote: > ... @@ -13249,39 +8071,11 @@ with knowledge of how Axiom works. It seems that we might have to do some extraordinary things in order to retain all of these "eggs" in one basket... :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEtS-0004DQ-2d - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:20:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEtQ-0004Aj-5Y - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:20:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgEtO-00046Y-Eu - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:20:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgEtO-00046G-5J - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:20:34 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.108] (helo=mail288.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgEtO-00038w-3d - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:20:34 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail288.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA46K7sU012274; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:20:22 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:19:44 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:19:44 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On November 4, 2006 12:42 AM Gaby wrote: >... @@ -13332,50 +8126,13 @@ more attention on this part of the system. If problems of missing files occur, it should be difficult to document which of the presumed "unused" files is actually referenced dynamically (if any). -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgF3u-0008Ma-Ax - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:31:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgF3s-0008K2-IF - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:31:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgF3q-0008JY-Vj - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:31:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgF3q-0008JS-Qm - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:31:22 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgF3q-0007xu-NZ - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:31:22 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC9A4F3D1; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:31:17 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA46QnDm015605; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:26:51 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA46Qn8c015589; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:26:49 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 04 Nov 2006 07:26:49 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040533.kA45X9c11013@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 07:26:49 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > | A "single point of control", however, is vitally important. | > | You're basically "putting your name" on the dotted line @@ -13413,47 +8170,13 @@ point of failure. Please be more specific, so that I can offer meaningful answer. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgF92-0002D8-Fv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:36:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgF8z-00029z-Pr - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:36:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgF8y-00028G-Od - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:36:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgF8y-000281-J9 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:36:40 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgF8y-0001fl-Iw - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:36:40 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9467A4F3D0; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:36:35 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA46W7MG015636; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:32:09 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA46W76P015635; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:32:07 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 04 Nov 2006 07:32:07 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040535.kA45Z2M11017@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 07:32:07 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > But, the check-in would have been approved after review, not before! | @@ -13478,47 +8201,13 @@ know of this changes only after a day, when possibly other changes have been applied too. Remove the unnecessary step; make the source live. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFB1-0003eq-7M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:38:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFAz-0003co-JN - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:38:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFAy-0003bD-5L - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:38:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgFAx-0003an-Mo - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:38:43 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgFAx-0002Id-LA - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:38:43 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8996B4F3D0; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:38:38 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA46YAr3015640; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:34:12 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA46YAPw015639; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:34:10 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 04 Nov 2006 07:34:10 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040536.kA45asu11021@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 07:34:10 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > | Just because it works does not make it right for the project. | > @@ -13530,44 +8219,13 @@ In this case, it wasn't "the only possible solution", but it was an adequate answer that carries a point that I hope successfully reaches the target. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFEG-0007QF-Lr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:42:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFEF-0007Pq-0E - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:42:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFEC-0007Oh-EJ - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:42:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgFEC-0007Oc-A8 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:42:04 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgFEC-00033s-7j - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:42:04 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B3A4F3D1; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:41:59 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA46bVb0015940; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:37:33 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA46bVuo015939; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:37:31 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 04 Nov 2006 07:37:30 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -13604,47 +8262,11 @@ Cc: list I agree. I subscribe to your suggestion to move "unused" files to a "jail" directory. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFNp-0008Ij-MA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:52:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFNo-0008IZ-Sa - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:52:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFNn-0008IB-0E - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:52:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgFNm-0008I8-NF - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:51:58 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgFNm-0004LW-Np - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:51:58 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA46plqp026007 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:51:47 -0500 -Received: (qmail 5219 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 06:51:48 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 06:51:48 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA46g0r11074; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:42:00 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:42:00 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 07:26:49 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040533.kA45X9c11013@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | > | A "single point of control", however, is vitally important. > | > | You're basically "putting your name" on the dotted line @@ -13669,9 +8291,6 @@ idea == patch? surely you jest. you clearly don't think that's a reasonable sentence or you would not have organized build-improvements the way you did. - - - > [...] > > | one person has total control over the whole source tree in their branch, @@ -13688,11 +8307,6 @@ the axiom sources exist in a dozen places and are freely writeable by two dozen people. a sudden heart attack on my part would have little if any effect on axiom development. - - - - - > | there are a lot of "other tasks" besides checking in changes > | that need to be performed in order to keep a silver version. > | who would have the responsibility to do this? @@ -13701,47 +8315,11 @@ if any effect on axiom development. well, answering related email would be one :-) -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFa0-0000ck-4J - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:04:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFZy-0000b8-QY - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:04:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFZx-0000Xf-AQ - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:04:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgFZw-0000X4-VD - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:04:32 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgFZw-0006pQ-IG - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:04:32 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA474KmF005518 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 02:04:21 -0500 -Received: (qmail 16080 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 07:04:21 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 07:04:21 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA46sYe11085; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:54:34 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:54:34 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 07:32:07 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040535.kA45Z2M11017@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | > But, the check-in would have been approved after review, not before! > | @@ -13797,49 +8375,11 @@ you wouldn't expect a conference chair to allow anyone to submit a paper without review, nor are they allowed to change it after it has been accepted. -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFb5-0001bT-GM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:05:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFb3-0001ZV-MX - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:05:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgFb2-0001XG-4H - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:05:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgFb2-0001X5-01 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:05:40 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgFb1-0006tc-Jf - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:05:39 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA475WCF008010 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 02:05:32 -0500 -Received: (qmail 17650 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 07:05:33 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 07:05:33 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA46tjD11089; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:55:45 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:55:45 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 07:34:10 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040536.kA45asu11021@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | > | Just because it works does not make it right for the project. > | > @@ -13855,49 +8395,13 @@ silver came into being in response to your requests. a silver-maintainer leader is also in response to your requests. methinks you're making your points. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgG16-0005bM-Q6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:32:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgG15-0005bG-J2 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:32:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgG14-0005b4-3H - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:32:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgG13-0005b1-Up - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:32:33 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgG13-0001V2-SQ - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:32:34 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18A740F67; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 08:32:32 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA47S0Nt016399; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 08:28:02 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA47S0Ek016398; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 08:28:00 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 04 Nov 2006 08:28:00 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040533.kA45X9c11013@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040642.kA46g0r11074@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 08:28:00 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > | > | A "single point of control", however, is vitally important. | > | > | You're basically "putting your name" on the dotted line @@ -13960,49 +8464,13 @@ feeling you're obliged to offer aplogogies after apologies. Please, don't be afraid to be more *specific*. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGGP-0004oh-TQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:48:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGGN-0004kB-LT - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:48:23 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGGM-0004gg-4j - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:48:22 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgGGL-0004gO-UW - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:48:21 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.106] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgGGL-0003d7-Nv - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:48:22 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFAD40F6C; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 08:48:20 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA47hmdG016564; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 08:43:50 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA47hmTL016563; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 08:43:48 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 04 Nov 2006 08:43:47 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040535.kA45Z2M11017@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040654.kA46sYe11085@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 08:43:47 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > | > But, the check-in would have been approved after review, not before! | > | @@ -14103,49 +8571,11 @@ that is an interesting analogy, but: any meaningful conclusion. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGIM-0006kB-3a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:50:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGIK-0006iX-AS - for list; 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- Sat, 4 Nov 2006 02:40:24 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 02:40:24 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 08:28:00 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040533.kA45X9c11013@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040642.kA46g0r11074@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | please lose the notion of "single point of failure" as it is meaningless. > @@ -14162,51 +8592,13 @@ be specific. prove your claim that a single failure destroys the project. show your work. :-) -t - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGOV-0003Mt-JH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:56:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGOU-0003Mn-Mj - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:56:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGOT-0003Mb-D3 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:56:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgGOT-0003MY-5r - for list; 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which of those points were not already made? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGWF-00061k-Qs - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:04:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGWE-00061W-N3 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:04:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgGWC-00060d-WF - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:04:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgGWC-00060a-RB - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:04:44 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgGWC-00067M-Ag - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:04:44 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35DD4F3A4; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 09:04:38 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA480B1G016930; 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- Sat, 4 Nov 2006 03:34:19 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 03:34:19 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 08:52:11 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040536.kA45asu11021@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040655.kA46tjD11089@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > | silver came into being in response to your requests. > @@ -14361,20 +8677,12 @@ Cc: list > At the risk of repeating myself, let me more specific: > - - - > (1) make your changes live and not just read-only. They're not read-only. Search the CHANGELOG file for 'gdr' and you'll see that you have made changes. It is just that my review is part of the change process. - - - - - > (2) in particular, make it possible that we all see the patches > applied (not just a message "patch --xxx" is available). @@ -14382,11 +8690,6 @@ All patches are posted to the list. All patches to silver get automatically posted due to Bill's robot. - - - - - > (3) make the master repository under SVN. This the "main" source > which which expriments, including releases are made of. @@ -14401,11 +8704,6 @@ never was, and is not planned as such. Arch has gold which gets published every couple months with changes mirrored to savannah and sourceforge. We've been doing that for many years. - - - - - > (4) commit changes to the master repository before they go do gold. They are committed to the master repository... axiom--silver--1 @@ -14418,22 +8716,12 @@ obvious and did not break the build-improvements branch. However, a careful review of the change before accepting it into silver found it to be incorrect. - - - - - > (6) have more than just one maintainer. There are 22 maintainers for Arch, 6 people with complete admin access on savannah, and 3 people (including yourself) with complete admin access on sourceforge. - - - - - Ulitmately we differ on philosophy. I believe that each branch has one person ultimately responsible for that branch. The responsible person determines policy. @@ -14444,60 +8732,11 @@ directly to the sources. That is appropriate for development software. I am responsible for gold and silver and don't allow multiple changes to the sources. That is appropriate for final release of software. - - -t - - - - - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgHFv-00052z-VN - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:51:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgHFu-00052b-Eg - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:51:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgHFr-00051g-G3 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:51:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgHFq-00051S-QF - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:51:55 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgHFq-0004va-QW - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:51:54 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA48pcd3016308 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 03:51:42 -0500 -Received: (qmail 23823 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 08:51:39 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 08:51:39 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA48fqj11190; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 03:41:52 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 03:41:52 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 09:00:11 +0100) Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040533.kA45X9c11013@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040642.kA46g0r11074@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040740.kA47eO311134@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > A single point of failure is when we have only one person > @@ -14524,42 +8763,11 @@ handed out at the ISSAC conference. The result of this time gained us (hopefully) access to Manuel's work and a few other connections to other people in our target audience. -t - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgINg-0003NE-1k - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:04:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgINe-0003N0-CK - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:04:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgINc-0003Mh-1N - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:04:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgINb-0003Me-Ur - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:04:00 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgINb-0000J2-BG - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:03:59 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA4A3t32028227 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:03:55 +0100 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:05:57 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - -Cc: axiom-dev On 11/03/2006 10:22 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -14626,51 +8834,13 @@ So please Gaby, try to make clear what you like even if you have already said that several times before. We must somehow settle the problem that you and Tim obviously have different understanding of "Silver". -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgIOd-0003i7-4v - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:05:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgIOb-0003hS-GK - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:05:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgIOa-0003h8-Uy - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:05:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgIOa-0003h5-So - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:05:00 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgIOa-0000im-7Y - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:05:00 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B524F3C9; 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Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:09:28 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 04 Nov 2006 11:09:27 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Maintainers - <200611040017.kA40H6j10938@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040533.kA45X9c11013@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040642.kA46g0r11074@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040740.kA47eO311134@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611040841.kA48fqj11190@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 11:09:27 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > A single point of failure is when we have only one person | > @@ -14978,46 +9079,11 @@ And I hope we've gotten build-improvements out of the way. "... gained us acceess to Manuel's work", in which form? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgJ8G-0001EJ-3k - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:52:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgJ8D-0001Cr-J6 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:52:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgJ8A-0001BG-Am - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:52:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgJ8A-0001B5-2m - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:52:06 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgJ89-00008W-Rm - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 05:52:06 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1EB4F3C2; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:51:57 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA4AlWJd019211; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:47:34 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA4AlWgn019210; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:47:32 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 04 Nov 2006 11:47:32 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - <454BAEAC.1090509@hemmecke.de> - - <454C6605.6040805@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 11:47:32 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -15120,33 +9186,11 @@ one repo is the master, others are mirrors to simplify our lives. Now, I understand that is not what we have; I'm trying to see how it can be approximated and made to work. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgKCh-0005gw-71 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:00:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgKCg-0005gq-Dj - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:00:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgKCb-0005g5-Sd - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:00:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgKCb-0005g1-Ma - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:00:45 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgKCa-0002Vs-7A - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:00:44 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GgKBT-0003UG-00; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:59:35 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Bill Page Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 12:59:35 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Bill Page wrote: > I think the following two files are not used anywhere: @@ -15226,56 +9270,17 @@ the only case. Second, it seems that browser were supposed to access only files from 'share' subtree and that files from 'src/doc/ps' were not installed here. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgKb0-00040r-6B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:25:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgKaz-00040a-96 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:25:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgKat-0003yc-Tb - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:25:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgKat-0003yR-Gj - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:25:51 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgKas-0006qM-Fm - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:25:51 -0500 -Received: (qmail 2361 invoked by uid 7797); 4 Nov 2006 12:22:46 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.133338 secs); 04 Nov 2006 12:22:46 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 4 Nov 2006 12:22:46 -0000 +\start Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 08:25:33 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig2649FDB99C4C3BC68FDFFCF0" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig2649FDB99C4C3BC68FDFFCF0 Bill Page wrote: > You only show running the Axiom main console program AXIOMsys. > How about the other parts of Axiom? If you type the command: ->=20 +> > $ axiom No, sman didn't build. Make stops on viewman: @@ -15299,58 +9304,15 @@ make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 I haven't had time to look at the errors yet. > Finally, would you be willing to post a tarball of the Axiom -> binaries distribution?=20 +> binaries distribution? http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/axiom-ppc-2006110301.tar.gz ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig2649FDB99C4C3BC68FDFFCF0 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTIbEO8aX8Tqx8vgRAqYWAKC1PJHAR+lMaifCnrWrcErU7u2G3ACgiuGP -zVmKT13C/UnfI5QQpQgnSz8= -=B14G ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig2649FDB99C4C3BC68FDFFCF0-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgN1U-0003ON-KP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:01:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgN1T-0003NL-3u - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:01:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgN1S-0003Ly-5Q - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:01:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgN1R-0003Lo-W0 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:01:26 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.27] (helo=smtp-msa-out04.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgN1R-0007t5-82 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:01:25 -0500 -Received: from [83.194.196.252] (ANancy-151-1-13-252.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr - [83.194.196.252]) - by mwinf0403.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6E30E1C0032F; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 16:01:23 +0100 (CET) -From: Raymond Manzoni -Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:59:22 +0100 -To: list, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Cc: - +From: Raymond Manzoni +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! Le 4 nov. 06 =E0 13:25, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga a =E9crit : @@ -15368,7 +9330,7 @@ Le 4 nov. 06 =E0 13:25, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga a =E9crit : > gcc -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -D_GNU_SOURCE -DMACOSXplatform > -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/sys -I/usr/X11R6/include > -I/Users/humberto/src/axiom-darcs/src/graph/include -> -I/Users/humberto/src/axiom-darcs/src/include -I. -c -o sselect.o =20 +> -I/Users/humberto/src/axiom-darcs/src/include -I. -c -o sselect.o > sselect.c > sselect.c: In function 'superSelect': > sselect.c:94: error: 'SIGCLD' undeclared (first use in this function) @@ -15391,33 +9353,33 @@ Le 4 nov. 06 =E0 13:25, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga a =E9crit : And thanks for providing this binary! My machine is a Dual G5 running OS X 10.4.8 (PPC build 8L127, = -Darwin =20 -Kernel Version 8.8.0, PowerMac7,2 Darwin similar to your =20 +Darwin +Kernel Version 8.8.0, PowerMac7,2 Darwin similar to your configuration I think...) and your binary worked here too! Great!! In fact I tried earlier to repeat your manipulations to compile = -from =20 -source and could repeat the second part (use adacs to get axiom =20 +from +source and could repeat the second part (use adacs to get axiom source and so on) but the first part (install gcl) didn't work here... The gcl generation ends (depending on paths and/or parameter) = -with =20 +with either a gcl readline error : gcl_readline.d: In function 'rl_completion': -gcl_readline.d:221: warning: implicit declaration of function =20 +gcl_readline.d:221: warning: implicit declaration of function 'rl_completion_matches' -gcl_readline.d:221: error: 'rl_compentry_func_t' undeclared (first =20 +gcl_readline.d:221: error: 'rl_compentry_func_t' undeclared (first use in this function) -gcl_readline.d:221: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported =20 +gcl_readline.d:221: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once gcl_readline.d:221: error: for each function it appears in.) gcl_readline.d:221: error: parse error before ')' token or the more annoying tk problem : -/usr/bin/ld: warning -L: directory name (/sw/src/tcltk-8.4.6-2/=20 +/usr/bin/ld: warning -L: directory name (/sw/src/tcltk-8.4.6-2/ tk8.4.6/unix) does not exist -/usr/bin/ld: warning multiple definitions of symbol _tclPlatStubsPtr =20 +/usr/bin/ld: warning multiple definitions of symbol _tclPlatStubsPtr and others... /usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols: _my_free @@ -15425,69 +9387,37 @@ _my_malloc (at this point there was a usable saved_gcl but...) I did this (and some variants without --disable-nls or the = -export =20 +export line and so on...) : Get a working gcl with CVS : - export CVS_RSH=3Dssh - export CVSROOT=3D:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/gcl + export CVS_RSH=ssh + export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/gcl cvs -z9 -q co -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl In gcl-2.6.8pre : - - remove -lintl from the LIBS:=3D line of = + - remove -lintl from the LIBS:= line of = h/powerpc-macosx.defs - export LIBRARY_PATH=3D`pwd`/binutils/intl + export LIBRARY_PATH=`pwd`/binutils/intl ./configure --enable-locbfd --disable-statsysbfd --disable-nls make=09 With the results previously given... Do you see something inappropriate in the previous lines or = -could =20 +could you give me the commands you used to successfully compile gcl on PPC? In any case many thanks again for your binary! Raymond -> --=20 -> Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -> Programmer-Archaeologist -> University of Puerto Rico -> http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgNn6-0006l9-5B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:50:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgNn3-0006i3-LX - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:50:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgNn2-0006gT-A8 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:50:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgNn2-0006gM-29 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:50:36 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgNn1-0006Tm-TL - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:50:36 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GgNm4-0000ku-00; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:49:36 +0100 -Subject: Re: Maintainers -To: Tim Daly Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 16:49:36 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: Maintainers root wrote: > > > Based on your extensive work would you consider being the @@ -15550,35 +9480,11 @@ frankly, my views differ from current Axiom practice. I thought that your proposal is part of establishing new practice -- I see now that I again misundrestood you. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgNyW-0003GP-P2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:02:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgNyU-0003Fq-VP - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:02:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgNyU-0003FX-GW - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:02:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgNyU-0003FA-8Z - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:02:26 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgNyT-00089Z-Nq - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:02:25 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GgNxZ-000149-00; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 17:01:29 +0100 -Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! -To: Raymond Manzoni +\start Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 17:01:29 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Raymond Manzoni +Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! Raymond Manzoni wrote: > @@ -15613,50 +9519,11 @@ end up using 'libedit' -- in many cases leading to errors like above. The message described what configure has to do to distingush 'libedit' from true 'readline', but I do not remember details. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgPj4-0007rC-G0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:54:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgPj2-0007qH-Gu - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:54:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgPj1-0007p3-If - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:54:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgPj0-0007op-TI - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:54:35 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgPj0-0007cX-T2 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:54:35 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA4HsCur032169 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 12:54:16 -0500 -Received: (qmail 12788 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 17:54:14 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Ralf Hemmecke; 4 Nov 2006 17:54:14 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA4HiVr11735; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 12:44:31 -0500 +\start Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 12:44:31 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 04 Nov 2006 11:47:32 +0100) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - <454BAEAC.1090509@hemmecke.de> - - <454C6605.6040805@hemmecke.de> - -Cc: list > On a regular bases, we branch off SILVER to make release branches. > For example, we could decide that next Tuesday, we will branch off @@ -15757,49 +9624,11 @@ I'd like to hear from the other people lurking on this list. What is your opinion. Try to speak freely and clearly. My feelings will not be hurt so don't mince words. -Tim - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgPlh-0002S2-6E - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:57:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgPle-0002RY-TM - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgPlZ-0002NX-B5 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:57:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgPlZ-0002NQ-11 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:57:13 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgPlY-0007vD-Qy - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:57:13 -0500 -Received: (qmail 14763 invoked by uid 7797); 4 Nov 2006 17:54:10 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.154822 secs); 04 Nov 2006 17:54:10 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 4 Nov 2006 17:54:10 -0000 +\start Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:56:55 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -To: Raymond Manzoni +From: Humberto Zuazaga +To: Raymond Manzoni Raymond Manzoni Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enigA26EBDE2FEE7CC24109BB6AA" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enigA26EBDE2FEE7CC24109BB6AA Raymond Manzoni wrote: > And thanks for providing this binary! @@ -15823,7 +9652,7 @@ Good. > once > gcl_readline.d:221: error: for each function it appears in.) > gcl_readline.d:221: error: parse error before ')' token ->=20 +> > or the more annoying tk problem : > /usr/bin/ld: warning -L: directory name > (/sw/src/tcltk-8.4.6-2/tk8.4.6/unix) does not exist @@ -15838,13 +9667,13 @@ I think these are both symptoms of the gcl configure picking up packages from fink (/sw/bin, /sw/lib, ...) and having the compile break. -> export CVSROOT=3D:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/gcl +> export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/gcl > cvs -z9 -q co -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl ->=20 +> > In gcl-2.6.8pre : -> - remove -lintl from the LIBS:=3D line of h/powerpc-macosx.defs ->=20 -> export LIBRARY_PATH=3D`pwd`/binutils/intl +> - remove -lintl from the LIBS:= line of h/powerpc-macosx.defs +> +> export LIBRARY_PATH=`pwd`/binutils/intl You don't need that anymore if you patch, as we won't use libintl anymore= =2E @@ -15857,67 +9686,16 @@ until I changed the PATH. In any case, I used fink's latex and pdflatex for the gcl documentation build, so you could try something like: -PATH=3D/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin +PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin =2E/configure --enable-locbfd --disable-statsysbfd --disable-nls all on one line. Good luck. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enigA26EBDE2FEE7CC24109BB6AA - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTNRvO8aX8Tqx8vgRAkdQAJ9hSrKJsnU5oW1ucgVxFeeJ2cA0vQCfTzY5 -26153ZbJP/b6233GWcLuUaA= -=2RtH ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enigA26EBDE2FEE7CC24109BB6AA-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQLH-0005uu-A0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:34:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQLF-0005uK-Tf - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:34:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQLE-0005tV-7v - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:34:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQLE-0005tQ-2l - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:34:04 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgQL5-0005sZ-9n - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:34:04 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA4IXqnx004875 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:33:52 -0500 -Received: (qmail 30002 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 18:33:51 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 4 Nov 2006 18:33:51 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA4INvj11757; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:23:57 -0500 +\start Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:23:57 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: raymman@free.fr - Raymond Manzoni on Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:59:22 +0100) +From: Tim Daly +To: Raymond Manzoni Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! - -Cc: list > > http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/axiom-ppc-2006110301.tar.gz > > @@ -15935,50 +9713,13 @@ dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.6.dylib Referenced from: /private/var/root/axiom50/powerpc-apple-darwin8.8.0/bin/./AXIOMsys Reason: image not found -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQQw-0001EV-Ug - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:39:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQQv-0001DW-B6 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:39:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQQs-0001DK-S5 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:39:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQQs-0001DH-MV - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:39:54 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgQQr-0006MN-15 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:39:54 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803E44F3BF; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 19:39:38 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA4IZGMN025996; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 19:35:18 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA4IZGMv025995; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 19:35:16 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 04 Nov 2006 19:35:16 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - - <454BAEAC.1090509@hemmecke.de> - - <454C6605.6040805@hemmecke.de> - - <200611041744.kA4HiVr11735@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 04 Nov 2006 19:35:16 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | > On a regular bases, we branch off SILVER to make release branches. | > For example, we could decide that next Tuesday, we will branch off @@ -16083,47 +9824,12 @@ just did. Don't base decisions on mischaracterizations. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQRR-00020w-8b - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:40:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQRO-0001w9-Jq - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:40:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQRM-0001tN-Uu - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:40:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQRM-0001tB-Qg - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:40:24 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgQRM-0006Ot-RS - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:40:25 -0500 -Received: (qmail 15869 invoked by uid 7797); 4 Nov 2006 18:37:23 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.146341 secs); 04 Nov 2006 18:37:23 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 4 Nov 2006 18:37:22 -0000 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:40:09 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig81702B42E69750F7A40B9039" Subject: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig81702B42E69750F7A40B9039 - I patched src/graph/sselect.c.pamphlet (well, first I patched the .c file, but I wised up before mailing the patch, shouldn't notangle mangle line numbers in C sources so they point at the pamphlets?) @@ -16131,7 +9837,7 @@ line numbers in C sources so they point at the pamphlets?) I guess Macs have BSD style signals: Sat Nov 4 14:32:19 GMT+4 2006 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga - +Humberto Zuazaga * mac-sselect diff -rN -u old-axiom-darcs/src/graph/viewman/sselect.c.pamphlet new-axiom-darcs/src/graph/viewman/sselect.c.pamphlet @@ -16142,7 +9848,7 @@ new-axiom-darcs/src/graph/viewman/sselect.c.pamphlet @@ -104,7 +104,7 @@ /* flush(spadSock); */ /* send_int(spadSock,1); acknowledge to spad */ - checkClosedChild =3D no; + checkClosedChild = no; -#if defined(BSDplatform) +#if defined(BSDplatform) || defined(MACOSXplatform) bsdSignal(SIGCHLD,endChild,DontRestartSystemCalls); @@ -16155,7 +9861,7 @@ regexp.h: Sat Nov 4 14:06:48 GMT+4 2006 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga - +Humberto Zuazaga * regex-mac diff -rN -u old-axiom-darcs/src/hyper/hthits.pamphlet new-axiom-darcs/src/hyper/hthits.pamphlet @@ -16198,68 +9904,11 @@ make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 I can't figure out what loc2 is supposed to be, I can't see any definition in any of the other pamphlets in the hyper directory. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig81702B42E69750F7A40B9039 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTN6QO8aX8Tqx8vgRAhEhAJ0bdxwao6tvqWV6M+FP9K43R0Bn+QCgid1r -xm1dIeS2Xo8qJz/yuWv187A= -=qCgm ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig81702B42E69750F7A40B9039-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQc4-00046p-5W - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:51:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQc2-00043D-2I - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:51:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQc0-00040H-MN - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:51:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQc0-000404-IC - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:51:24 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgQc0-0007Rq-F8 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:51:24 -0500 -Received: (qmail 16392 invoked by uid 7797); 4 Nov 2006 18:48:22 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.119749 secs); 04 Nov 2006 18:48:22 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 4 Nov 2006 18:48:21 -0000 +\start Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:51:08 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! - - <200611041823.kA4INvj11757@localhost.localdomain> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig3859D2D06F6F6FECD9847FC2" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig3859D2D06F6F6FECD9847FC2 root wrote: >>> http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/axiom-ppc-2006110301.tar.gz @@ -16268,17 +9917,17 @@ root wrote: >> >> And thanks for providing this binary! >> My machine is a Dual G5 running OS X 10.4.8 (PPC build 8L127, Darwin = -=20 ->> Kernel Version 8.8.0, PowerMac7,2 Darwin similar to your =20 + +>> Kernel Version 8.8.0, PowerMac7,2 Darwin similar to your >> configuration I think...) and your binary worked here too! Great!! ->=20 +> > Unfortunately this does not work for me. I get: ->=20 +> > dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.6.dylib > Referenced from: /private/var/root/axiom50/powerpc-apple-darwin8.8.0/b= in/./AXIOMsys > Reason: image not found ->=20 +> > Tim AXIOMsys doesn't need X support does it? I'm going to try to rebuild gcl @@ -16292,64 +9941,11 @@ compatible with OS X 10.2 or later (I don't know if it's static or uses compatibility libraries). It may be possible to pass flags to the command line tools to achieve the same thing. I'll ask around ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig3859D2D06F6F6FECD9847FC2 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTOEjO8aX8Tqx8vgRAtW2AJ9m0QE7WEd3UCI6VJeUtwCqSC94yACeISe5 -9+GiJoNZIAnhyBPRnPcaOBU= -=OfDc ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig3859D2D06F6F6FECD9847FC2-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQjB-0001sl-Ug - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:58:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQjA-0001rF-Gj - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:58:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQj6-0001m1-Uc - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:58:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQj6-0001ls-PQ - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:58:44 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgQj6-00082f-UL - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:58:45 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA4IweP0030345 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:58:40 -0500 -Received: (qmail 1626 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 18:58:39 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 4 Nov 2006 18:58:39 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA4ImkP11782; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:48:46 -0500 +\start Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:48:46 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: humberto@hpcf.upr.edu - Ortiz-Zuazaga on Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:51:08 -0400) +From: Tim Daly +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! - - <200611041823.kA4INvj11757@localhost.localdomain> - <454CE11C.1010603@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: list > AXIOMsys doesn't need X support does it? I'm going to try to rebuild gcl > without X support and build a new axiom from it. Is there an equivalent @@ -16366,50 +9962,11 @@ AXIOMsys is just a pure lisp image and only requires a command line. I really can't say. I'm not well versed in using a MAC for development. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQtE-00041Q-8c - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQtC-00040r-T1 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQtB-0003zu-RG - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQtB-0003zr-NW - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:09 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgQtB-0000fP-B0 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:09 -0500 -Received: (qmail 17045 invoked by uid 7797); 4 Nov 2006 19:06:07 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.302792 secs); 04 Nov 2006 19:06:07 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 4 Nov 2006 19:06:07 -0000 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:08:53 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! - <454C86BD.602@hpcf.upr.edu> <200611041823.kA4INvj11757@localhost.localdomain> - <454CE11C.1010603@hpcf.upr.edu> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig3571D4B371D7076A95493640" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig3571D4B371D7076A95493640 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: > root wrote: @@ -16419,8 +9976,8 @@ Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: >>> >>> And thanks for providing this binary! >>> My machine is a Dual G5 running OS X 10.4.8 (PPC build 8L127, Darwin= - =20 ->>> Kernel Version 8.8.0, PowerMac7,2 Darwin similar to your =20 + +>>> Kernel Version 8.8.0, PowerMac7,2 Darwin similar to your >>> configuration I think...) and your binary worked here too! Great!! >> Unfortunately this does not work for me. I get: >> @@ -16430,7 +9987,7 @@ bin/./AXIOMsys >> Reason: image not found >> >> Tim ->=20 +> > AXIOMsys doesn't need X support does it? I'm going to try to rebuild gc= l > without X support and build a new axiom from it. Is there an equivalent= @@ -16438,7 +9995,7 @@ l > to the linux ldd command on Mac OS? On linux, ldd lists out the dynamic= > libraries used by a program. ->=20 +> > I think there is another solution, in XCode, I can specify what kind of= > project to build, and one of the options is (I think) a binary that is @@ -16446,12 +10003,12 @@ l > compatibility libraries). It may be possible to pass flags to the > command line tools to achieve the same thing. I'll ask around ->=20 ->=20 ->=20 +> +> +> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - ->=20 +> > _______________________________________________ > Axiom-developer mailing list > list @@ -16494,63 +10051,23 @@ http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/axiom-ppc-2006110401.tar.gz The configure invocation for GCL is: - 552 PATH=3D/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin= + 552 PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin= 555 make clean - 556 ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local --enable-locbfd + 556 ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --enable-locbfd --disable-statsysbfd --disable-nls --disable-xgcl --disable-x - 557 PATH=3D$PATH:/sw/bin + 557 PATH=$PATH:/sw/bin 558 make ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig3571D4B371D7076A95493640 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTOVMO8aX8Tqx8vgRAqKJAJ9YwvCzyQtKWUA+nSO2uqBPi1GaFwCfdRUg -cpm1eNDdedpJVdS8ES4/Xbk= -=cYFd ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig3571D4B371D7076A95493640-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQtg-0004F3-V2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQte-0004EG-7f - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQtc-0004Dg-RM - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQtc-0004Dd-Og - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:36 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgQtc-0000iU-DF - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:09:36 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GgQsa-0005It-00; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:08:32 +0100 -Subject: Re: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 20:08:32 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: > Sat Nov 4 14:06:48 GMT+4 2006 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -> +> Humberto Zuazaga > * regex-mac > diff -rN -u old-axiom-darcs/src/hyper/hthits.pamphlet > new-axiom-darcs/src/hyper/hthits.pamphlet @@ -16602,56 +10119,18 @@ is quite different. AFAICS we should rewrite hthits.c to use regex.h on all platforms, but this slightly more then changing include line. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQzo-0005TB-NM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:16:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQzn-0005Pz-JT - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:15:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgQzm-0005MJ-22 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:15:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQzl-0005M3-Uq - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:15:57 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgQzj-0001ZI-2k - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:15:57 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA4JFkJE025628 - for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 14:15:50 -0500 -Received: (qmail 5393 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2006 19:15:46 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 4 Nov 2006 19:15:46 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA4J5qr11825; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 14:05:52 -0500 +\start Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 14:05:52 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: humberto@hpcf.upr.edu - Ortiz-Zuazaga on Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:40:09 -0400) +From: Tim Daly +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X -Cc: list - This patch has been added to silver. I'm not sure about the hyper changes. I need to investigate further. -t - - > Sat Nov 4 14:32:19 GMT+4 2006 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -> +> Humberto Zuazaga > * mac-sselect > diff -rN -u old-axiom-darcs/src/graph/viewman/sselect.c.pamphlet > new-axiom-darcs/src/graph/viewman/sselect.c.pamphlet @@ -16662,40 +10141,18 @@ t > @@ -104,7 +104,7 @@ > /* flush(spadSock); */ > /* send_int(spadSock,1); acknowledge to spad */ -> checkClosedChild =3D no; +> checkClosedChild = no; > -#if defined(BSDplatform) > +#if defined(BSDplatform) || defined(MACOSXplatform) > bsdSignal(SIGCHLD,endChild,DontRestartSystemCalls); > #else > bsdSignal(SIGCLD,endChild,DontRestartSystemCalls); - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgRjn-0004HS-H4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:03:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgRjl-0004FY-O7 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:03:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgRji-0004CV-TK - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:03:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgRji-0004CL-MH - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:03:26 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgRjh-0001pg-Um - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:03:26 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GgRig-0008SV-00; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 21:02:22 +0100 -Subject: Re: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 21:02:22 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: > and viewman now compiles. Next problem is hyper, the Mac doesn't have @@ -16784,49 +10241,11 @@ diff -u build-improvements.pp/src/hyper/hthits.pamphlet build-improvements/src/h printf("\\newsearchresultentry{%d}{%s}",nhits, pgtitle); squirt(pgname, strlen(pgname)); --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgSSM-00085o-Qk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:49:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgSSL-00083e-8W - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:49:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgSSJ-0007zz-In - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:49:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgSSJ-0007zn-C1 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:49:31 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgSSH-0000EM-Lm - for list; 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- 4 Nov 2006 22:41:22 -0000 +\start Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 18:44:15 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list Subject: Re: configure.ac.pamphlet - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enigF21AFA0DC0F40DA0D3D54F46" - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enigF21AFA0DC0F40DA0D3D54F46 - -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------030603050401050103040203 Waldek Hebisch wrote: > configure.ac.pamphlet contains the following: ->=20 +> > *darwin*) -> PLF=3DMACOSXplatform -> CCF=3D"-O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -D_GNU_SOURCE -D${PLF} \ +> PLF=MACOSXplatform +> CCF="-O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -D_GNU_SOURCE -D${PLF} \ > -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/sys" -> GCLOPTS=3D"--enable-vssize=3D65536*2 --enable-maxpage=3D256*102= +> GCLOPTS="--enable-vssize=65536*2 --enable-maxpage=256*102= 4 --disable-locbfd \ > --disable-statsysbfd --enable-custreloc --disable-tkconfig= \ -> --enable-machine=3Dpwerpc-macosx" +> --enable-machine=pwerpc-macosx" > ;; > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ->=20 -> This look wrong on two accounts:=20 +> +> This look wrong on two accounts: > 1) standard name is 'powerpc-macosx' > 2) seem to ignore Intel Macs ->=20 +> There still isn't a working gcl for Intel Mac OS X, I started mangling -the source to support "--enable-machine=3Di386-macosx", but it's still no= +the source to support "--enable-machine=i386-macosx", but it's still no= t working. Configure thinks my mac is "i686-apple-darwin8.8.1", as opposed to the G5 which is "powerpc-apple-darwin8.8.0". I don't think there will @@ -16996,97 +10335,33 @@ external gcl I have that built axiom sucessfully. The "--disable-tkconfig" should help with the Tcl/Tk issues we've been having. What are the memory and custreloc flags for? ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - ---------------030603050401050103040203 - name="signature.asc" - filename="signature.asc" - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTRXiO8aX8Tqx8vgRAh2nAJ42tkagwDJfWywy/yTnjHTX4wGIEwCbBIq4 -SqvivwjBRgl5XcL07Sc5UUw=3D -=3Dg11l ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - - ---------------030603050401050103040203-- - ---------------enigF21AFA0DC0F40DA0D3D54F46 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTRe/O8aX8Tqx8vgRAk0eAKCCigjJkXyKafZJAGxK912NomSsVQCfUu7C -RNHXtF5rYPHxbZNqT4XLE9E= -=9RYh ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enigF21AFA0DC0F40DA0D3D54F46-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgWQG-0007Gt-3m - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:03:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgWQE-0007Go-Rr - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:03:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgWQD-0007Gc-KO - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:03:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgWQD-0007GZ-HT - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:03:37 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.23.69] (helo=smtp-msa-out14.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgWQC-0004pL-Tm - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:03:37 -0500 -Received: from [83.196.174.5] (ANancy-151-1-64-5.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr - [83.196.174.5]) - by mwinf1403.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B2B0C7000090; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 02:03:35 +0100 (CET) - - <454CD467.7080109@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Raymond Manzoni -Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 02:01:32 +0100 -To: list, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Cc: - - -Le 4 nov. 06 =E0 18:56, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga a =E9crit : +From: Raymond Manzoni +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! > Raymond Manzoni wrote: >> And thanks for providing this binary! ->> My machine is a Dual G5 running OS X 10.4.8 (PPC build 8L127, =20 +>> My machine is a Dual G5 running OS X 10.4.8 (PPC build 8L127, >> Darwin ->> Kernel Version 8.8.0, PowerMac7,2 Darwin similar to your =20 +>> Kernel Version 8.8.0, PowerMac7,2 Darwin similar to your >> configuration I >> think...) and your binary worked here too! Great!! > > Good. > ->> The gcl generation ends (depending on paths and/or parameter) =20 +>> The gcl generation ends (depending on paths and/or parameter) >> with >> either a gcl readline error : >> gcl_readline.d: In function 'rl_completion': >> gcl_readline.d:221: warning: implicit declaration of function >> 'rl_completion_matches' ->> gcl_readline.d:221: error: 'rl_compentry_func_t' undeclared (first =20= +>> gcl_readline.d:221: error: 'rl_compentry_func_t' undeclared (first = >> use >> in this function) ->> gcl_readline.d:221: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported =20= +>> gcl_readline.d:221: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported = >> only >> once @@ -17096,52 +10371,52 @@ Le 4 nov. 06 =E0 18:56, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga a =E9crit : >> or the more annoying tk problem : >> /usr/bin/ld: warning -L: directory name >> (/sw/src/tcltk-8.4.6-2/tk8.4.6/unix) does not exist ->> /usr/bin/ld: warning multiple definitions of symbol =20 +>> /usr/bin/ld: warning multiple definitions of symbol >> _tclPlatStubsPtr and >> others... >> /usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols: >> _my_free >> _my_malloc > -> I think these are both symptoms of the gcl configure picking up =20 +> I think these are both symptoms of the gcl configure picking up > packages > from fink (/sw/bin, /sw/lib, ...) and having the compile break. > > ->> export CVSROOT=3D:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/gcl +>> export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/gcl >> cvs -z9 -q co -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl >> >> In gcl-2.6.8pre : ->> - remove -lintl from the LIBS:=3D line of = +>> - remove -lintl from the LIBS:= line of = h/powerpc-macosx.defs >> ->> export LIBRARY_PATH=3D`pwd`/binutils/intl +>> export LIBRARY_PATH=`pwd`/binutils/intl > -> You don't need that anymore if you patch, as we won't use libintl =20 +> You don't need that anymore if you patch, as we won't use libintl > anymore. > -> I manipulated my PATH to remove /sw/bin and similar, so gcl's =20 +> I manipulated my PATH to remove /sw/bin and similar, so gcl's > configure -> doesn't see the fink tcl/Tk, I think you can pass some kind of =20 +> doesn't see the fink tcl/Tk, I think you can pass some kind of > configure > option to gcl to do the same thing, but I kept having wierd problems > until I changed the PATH. > -> In any case, I used fink's latex and pdflatex for the gcl =20 +> In any case, I used fink's latex and pdflatex for the gcl > documentation > build, so you could try something like: > -> PATH=3D/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin +> PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin > ./configure --enable-locbfd --disable-statsysbfd --disable-nls > - Thanks for the trick of isolating Fink (/sw/... by default) and =20= + Thanks for the trick of isolating Fink (/sw/... by default) and = DarwinPort (/opt/local/...). It worked indeed with exactly these instructions! I just added two symbolic links in /usr/local/bin : the first = -since =20 -pdflatex was needed for completion of the make and the second =20 +since +pdflatex was needed for completion of the make and the second (optional) for .dvi generation of the make install : cd /usr/local/bin =09 @@ -17151,7 +10426,7 @@ ln -s /sw/bin/tex tex make sudo make install - installed gcl so that I could start the (very long...) axiom =20 + installed gcl so that I could start the (very long...) axiom compilation (NRLIBS generation) I got the SIGCLD errors and applied your corrections : @@ -17163,74 +10438,27 @@ by I got stuck with the hyper problem : 13 making /Users/raym/Desktop/dev/axio/axiom/src/hyper -make[2]: *** No rule to make target `addfile.pamphlet', needed by =20 +make[2]: *** No rule to make target `addfile.pamphlet', needed by `addfile.h'. Stop. make[1]: *** [hyper/stamp] Error 2 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 - I fear there is an order problem here since the hthits.pamphlet =20= + I fear there is an order problem here since the hthits.pamphlet = -doesn't exist in the 'hyper' folder at this point (as opposed to the =20 +doesn't exist in the 'hyper' folder at this point (as opposed to the older axiom projects I have). I'll stop here (it's late in France). Thanks again for the help (I don't forget Tim, Bill, Aurelien = -and =20 +and many others!) - Best regards, - Raymond -=09 - -> all on one line. Good luck. -> -> --=20 -> Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -> Programmer-Archaeologist -> University of Puerto Rico -> http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ -> - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgWxk-0002bT-0E - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:38:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgWxi-0002aZ-F0 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:38:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgWxg-0002ZF-VA - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:38:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgWxg-0002Z8-Ls - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:38:12 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgWxg-0000hf-CQ - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:38:12 -0500 -Received: (qmail 28860 invoked by uid 7797); 5 Nov 2006 01:35:10 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.130541 secs); 05 Nov 2006 01:35:10 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 5 Nov 2006 01:35:09 -0000 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 21:37:52 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: list - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig2DBAD631D19C3BD1D7E699B1" -Cc: Subject: Tarball for Mac OS X -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig2DBAD631D19C3BD1D7E699B1 - With Waldek's latest patches it looks like the build completed. I've put a tarball up: @@ -17245,61 +10473,11 @@ ptyopen failed: No such file or directory Sorry, I have to check if darcs overwrote the openpty patches. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig2DBAD631D19C3BD1D7E699B1 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTUB7O8aX8Tqx8vgRAloeAJ4zzYOsL9OMbn/TBp+vnhTwschLRwCfWHYs -FGL1vFyL2qQ13KKGP5PnOEU= -=9ONq ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig2DBAD631D19C3BD1D7E699B1-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgXYa-00073d-Ns - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 21:16:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgXYY-00073I-N6 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 21:16:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgXYV-000735-BK - for list; 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- 5 Nov 2006 02:51:58 -0000 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:54:42 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Tarball for Mac OS X - <200611050206.kA5268V11958@localhost.localdomain> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig05D69A92BD1CBA31C7F4C548" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig05D69A92BD1CBA31C7F4C548 root wrote: > I downloaded your latest version ->=20 +> > http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/axiom-ppc-2006110402.tar.gz ->=20 +> > but don't know how to set the AXIOM variable. ->=20 +> > t The tarfile contains the powerpc-apple-darwin8.8.0 directory that should be the target of the AXIOM variable: tar zxf axiom-ppc-2006110402.tar.gz -export AXIOM=3D`pwd`/powerpc-apple-darwin8.8.0 -PATH=3D$AXIOM/bin:$PATH +export AXIOM=`pwd`/powerpc-apple-darwin8.8.0 +PATH=$AXIOM/bin:$PATH AXIOMsys should work at least on PowerPC Mac OS X 10.4 systems. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig05D69A92BD1CBA31C7F4C548 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTVJ6O8aX8Tqx8vgRAqkTAJ9vuM0NetP2lYS+hCYhsIjx11cwEwCgtOzS -9L/pmgBq+Zkxjd3+jsxLpmI= -=DjPb ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig05D69A92BD1CBA31C7F4C548-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYJq-0002Lq-Ne - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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5 Nov 2006 03:04:53 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA52t3Y11983; - Sat, 4 Nov 2006 21:55:03 -0500 +\start Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 21:55:03 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly -To: humberto@hpcf.upr.edu - Ortiz-Zuazaga on Sat, 04 Nov 2006 21:37:52 -0400) +From: Tim Daly +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: Tarball for Mac OS X -Cc: list > > I downloaded your latest version > > @@ -17436,7 +10527,7 @@ Cc: list > > tar zxf axiom-ppc-2006110402.tar.gz > export AXIOM=`pwd`/powerpc-apple-darwin8.8.0 -> PATH=3D$AXIOM/bin:$PATH +> PATH=$AXIOM/bin:$PATH > AXIOMsys > > should work at least on PowerPC Mac OS X 10.4 systems. @@ -17446,41 +10537,11 @@ Nope. Fails for me. AXIOMsys Error: Caught fatal error -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYPH-0006sA-5D - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:10:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYPG-0006rm-1W - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:10:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYPE-0006rQ-Fr - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:10:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgYPE-0006rF-5Q - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:10:44 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.184] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgYPD-0006Sk-Jg - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:10:44 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so1962816nfa - for ; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:10:42 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=fXRF5Cno26H+L5QKGgh5+zdA5wCBZiF9S8TsK/08L2xG4b+O0HjGuTIyp5FSbK0Xe5XvibYAh8XrwLgosYiuB/2Mw8ytZJ9Bn2GqCqlZlO/E5Yq89rcA3mbDPVdh5KaMc1kuTnWHyJWYv5Jr33HigVB+1N3lOgHaMFGrLdYva4o= -Received: by 10.82.106.14 with SMTP id e14mr1068178buc.1162696241929; - Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:10:41 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 19:10:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 22:10:41 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes -To: "Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga" +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: Tarball for Mac OS X - <200611050206.kA5268V11958@localhost.localdomain> - <454D5272.7070402@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: list Hi Humberto, @@ -17500,44 +10561,11 @@ Maybe in here (Bill can probably say a better location): http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/BuildAxiom -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYe5-0002O4-Kg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:26:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYe4-0002MC-JG - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:26:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYe3-0002KA-NP - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:26:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgYe3-0002Jf-F7 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:26:03 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgYe3-0007aP-Ak - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:26:03 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1644F3C0; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:26:00 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA53LRPM001678; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:21:29 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA53LR2P001677; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:21:27 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 05 Nov 2006 04:21:27 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: configure.ac.pamphlet -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 05 Nov 2006 04:21:27 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -17561,45 +10589,13 @@ Yes on both accounts. Those are what were in the Makefiles when I branched. I never committed my changes to that. The test should be based on the target canonical triplet. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYhZ-00053J-Sc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:29:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYhX-000536-SV - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:29:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYhW-00052u-Gu - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:29:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgYhW-00052r-A3 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:29:38 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgYhW-0008AJ-4p - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:29:38 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FC14F3C1; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:29:35 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA53P2rb001819; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:25:05 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA53P2Si001818; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:25:02 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: Re: configure.ac.pamphlet - <454D17BF.3060703@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 05 Nov 2006 04:25:02 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: configure.ac.pamphlet -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: | Waldek Hebisch wrote: | > configure.ac.pamphlet contains the following: @@ -17639,79 +10635,23 @@ the standard and traditional --target. We don't need Tcl/Tk -- that was observed by Vanuxem a while ago. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYij-0005F4-9P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:30:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYih-0005EC-U2 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:30:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgYif-0005DO-U8 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:30:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgYif-0005DL-S3 - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:30:49 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgYie-0008Vz-6v - for list; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:30:48 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3109C4F3B0; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:30:45 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA53QDTh001823; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:26:15 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA53QChs001822; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:26:12 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: Re: Tarball for Mac OS X -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 05 Nov 2006 04:26:12 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: Re: Tarball for Mac OS X -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: | With Waldek's latest patches it looks like the build completed. Is there a chance you can summarize all the patches that enables the build? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggacg-0006u3-OY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:32:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggacf-0006rw-6Q - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:32:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggacc-0006pT-HM - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:32:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggacc-0006pQ-Cw - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:32:42 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.134] (helo=mail14c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggacc-0006Zj-Ah - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:32:42 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail14c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA55WLKl030926; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 00:32:35 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Alfredo Portes'" Alfredo Portes Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 00:32:19 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Alfredo Portes Subject: RE: Suggestion On November 4, 2006 11:40 PM Alfredo Portes wrote: @@ -17746,38 +10686,10 @@ link Executables to Programs instead of deleting it since some people seem to miss the fact that the headings are in fact also links. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgamQ-0006R5-3p - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:42:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgamO-0006Qu-UY - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:42:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgamM-0006Qi-EB - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:42:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgamM-0006Qf-9c - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:42:46 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.135] (helo=mail15c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgamM-0007ti-9J - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:42:46 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail15c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA55gR2G027389; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 00:42:41 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Alfredo Portes'" Alfredo Portes Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 00:42:25 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Alfredo Portes Subject: RE: Suggestion Alfredo, @@ -17800,38 +10712,10 @@ you think there should still be a link to it directly from FrontPage? I agree that BuildAxiom is the right place to add the build procedure for OS X. Feel free ... :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggb8a-0003xf-Fd - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:05:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggb8X-0003tt-3B - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:05:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggb8U-0003qY-2A - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:05:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggb8T-0003qA-9q - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:05:37 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.83] (helo=mail263.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggb8S-00026J-RP - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:05:37 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail263.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA565GIf022296; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 01:05:31 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Alfredo Portes'" Alfredo Portes +\start Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 01:05:14 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Alfredo Portes Subject: RE: Suggestion On November 5, 2006 12:52 AM Alfredo Portes asked: @@ -17858,42 +10742,10 @@ harder than it turned out to be for the MAC! :-) Do you have any interest in working on the Windows version? -Regards, -Bill Page - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgbJ8-00035Q-S5 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:16:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgbJ6-00033P-4U - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:16:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgbJ4-00031v-9l - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:16:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgbJ4-00031k-3X - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:16:34 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.190] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgbJ3-0003Qu-TO - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:16:34 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so2010328nfa - for ; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:16:32 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=UJLOaeis8cqtrVyErdx6c8hOLctfYtlEPXOKIVSNT5XeAhw3MAJZobxU9QIU/uCuds5A7OEwNs9qNj7DHKnq/K51FIlEmPhx0LwmiJjLgT/uGtbmpyds+Bk69350mMg+5UBvxHh67feVOzfQem1Culu+yF86lwoC6qqvwksqzHM= -Received: by 10.82.172.15 with SMTP id u15mr964628bue.1162707392652; - Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:16:32 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 22:16:32 -0800 (PST) +\start Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 01:16:32 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page - <017c01c700a0$62087fc0$6900a8c0@asus> -Cc: list +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Suggestion On 11/5/06, Bill Page wrote: @@ -17927,41 +10779,11 @@ Windows sounds like a fun project :-). It would be nice to have the Linux, OS X and Windows binaries on the livecd. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggcwg-0006tZ-If - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:01:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggcwe-0006rF-P6 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:01:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggcwd-0006oP-1l - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:01:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggcwc-0006oA-SZ - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:01:30 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggcwc-0001jz-DT - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:01:30 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA581BkK012211 - for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 03:01:15 -0500 -Received: (qmail 1802 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2006 08:01:12 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Alfredo Portes; 5 Nov 2006 08:01:12 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA57pNS12092; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 02:51:23 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 02:51:23 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: re: Suggestion -Cc: list Bill, Alfredo, @@ -17978,83 +10800,22 @@ We could also keep the Doyen in the list. Opinions? -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgczA-0002zJ-Uf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:04:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggcz9-0002wg-KX - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:04:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggcz8-0002tV-7U - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:04:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggcz8-0002tE-2x - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:04:06 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggcz7-0002Of-K1 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:04:05 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA583we2013203 - for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 03:03:58 -0500 -Received: (qmail 12312 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2006 08:03:59 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Alfredo Portes; 5 Nov 2006 08:03:59 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA57sBg12101; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 02:54:11 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 02:54:11 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: re: Suggestion -Cc: list Bill, Did you ever add the asq setup? I don't see it anywhere. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgdKI-0001XR-Hn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:25:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgdKH-0001XM-EN - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:25:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgdKE-0001WO-Tk - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:25:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgdKE-0001W9-Pm - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:25:54 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.190] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgdKE-0004NN-EI - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:25:54 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so2037396nfa - for ; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:53 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=TuQKVqtU4Oizmzxc4D8iyiPu823k1grYZG9bqPohPiUpvDPTmCLN3cReChvtaXlMR6NXf5q9zmlqYo83wMnbMwzpdp4RI1m3Q2XG8pCoOHIVWkMqPyUt3w41fttsHB9Ve69OeOTAtScEdeoJ0SZQnZjCL7J+M11rDnyattf/Q2s= -Received: by 10.82.111.8 with SMTP id j8mr1089490buc.1162715152888; - Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:52 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 00:25:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 03:25:52 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes To: Tim Daly Subject: re: Suggestion - <200611050751.kA57pNS12092@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomBinaries @@ -18084,7 +10845,7 @@ The Axiom binary file for the........ I do not know if this makes sense or I dont know if you would prefer to have individual pages for each platform. -On 11/5/06, root Tim Daly wrote: +On 11/5/06, Tim Daly wrote: > Bill, Alfredo, > > I might suggest that we reorganize a portion of the axiom binary @@ -18097,49 +10858,12 @@ On 11/5/06, root Tim Daly wrote: > does not currently support graphics). > > We could also keep the Doyen in the list. -> -> Opinions? -> -> t -> - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgdX3-0001Kd-WA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:39:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgdX3-0001KH-2G - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:39:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgdX1-0001Jd-MB - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:39:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgdX1-0001Ja-KG - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:39:07 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgdX1-0006JY-Lz - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:39:07 -0500 -Received: from pop-4.zoominternet.net (mua-4.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.47]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA58cxA4008299 - for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 03:38:59 -0500 -Received: (qmail 16564 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2006 08:39:00 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-4.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 5 Nov 2006 08:39:00 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA58TCB12202; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 03:29:12 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 03:29:12 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Alfredo Portes - (Alfredo Portes) Subject: re: Suggestion - <200611050751.kA57pNS12092@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list well, clearly i think the table organization is clearer :-) the advantage is that you can see at a glance which binaries @@ -18154,44 +10878,13 @@ we could even color code the table entries for "partial", "experimental branch", "silver" and "gold" versions so it would be possible to have multiple versions per platform. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggde1-0006IG-0N - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:46:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggddy-0006Er-LP - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:46:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggddw-0006D4-WF - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:46:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggddw-0006Cj-Rr - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:46:16 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.188] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggddw-0006su-Sl - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:46:17 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so2041779nfa - for ; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:46:15 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=rK1xeW0XGgavOTqIXapbUh2i+S+Emv+mbobtLfsnvnokdcdX0xSkMOqs59Tak1CBeJlznAHgF6s/CwKLrQq818z3Ih3L+is1aMg7As9w9iyUxC7yCkXdQUx2RwrU/jGKTNa1oK133IoyhPg7TakwpgbaiQ/sTmInHsi4Jw5EQXo= -Received: by 10.82.131.1 with SMTP id e1mr1088516bud.1162716375285; - Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:46:15 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 00:46:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 03:46:15 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes To: Tim Daly Subject: re: Suggestion - <200611050751.kA57pNS12092@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611050829.kA58TCB12202@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list -On 11/5/06, root Tim Daly wrote: +On 11/5/06, Tim Daly wrote: > well, clearly i think the table organization is clearer :-) > the advantage is that you can see at a glance which binaries > are available, which are downlevel, and which are missing. @@ -18211,45 +10904,11 @@ but then, where are the release notes going to be placed? That sounds interesting. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gge8u-0004TT-EE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 04:18:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gge8s-0004PY-Nt - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 04:18:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gge8q-0004Hl-1K - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 04:18:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gge8p-0004HV-Sq - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 04:18:11 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gge8p-0001Xt-OV - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 04:18:11 -0500 -Received: from pop-2.zoominternet.net (mua-2.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.45]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA59Ht8W003577 - for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:17:59 -0500 -Received: (qmail 17977 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2006 09:17:56 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-2.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 5 Nov 2006 09:17:56 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA5987a12580; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:08:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:08:07 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Alfredo Portes - (Alfredo Portes) Subject: re: Suggestion - <200611050751.kA57pNS12092@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611050829.kA58TCB12202@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list > > entries in the table can point to the same binaries if they > > work across multiple platforms so there is no need for a @@ -18273,32 +10932,10 @@ Gold 50| Notes | | Binary | ------------------------------------------------ -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GggdX-0002AX-Fs - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:58:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GggdV-0002AC-LU - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:58:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GggdT-00029x-Sp - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:58:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GggdT-00029u-PK - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:57:59 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GggdT-0000TI-QV - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:58:00 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GggcX-0005Sx-00; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 12:57:01 +0100 -To: Ralf Hemmecke Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 12:57:01 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: ActiveAxiomDevelopers @@ -18314,34 +10951,10 @@ Sorry, last time when I tried to update wiki (different page) it did not work -- I typed in all that silly info which 'preferences' want to gather but it still did not work. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggi74-00031B-5A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 08:32:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggi72-0002xO-BB - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 08:32:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggi70-0002t9-4k - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 08:32:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggi6z-0002sv-TG - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 08:32:33 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggi6z-0000yc-P9 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 08:32:34 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Ggi64-0003h7-00 - for ; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:31:36 +0100 -To: list +\start Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 14:31:36 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: Ping: file removals I proposed removing several files from Axiom repository. ATM only @@ -18375,52 +10988,11 @@ generated documentation files: I would give high priority to removing extra copy of 'util.ht', since 'util.ht' contains paths to files which we need to rename. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggib7-0002JL-17 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:03:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggib5-0002JG-Bz - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:03:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggib3-0002IU-HI - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:03:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggib3-0002IO-Du - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:03:37 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggib2-0004cS-N0 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:03:37 -0500 -Received: (qmail 13644 invoked by uid 7797); 5 Nov 2006 14:00:33 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.092056 secs); 05 Nov 2006 14:00:33 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 5 Nov 2006 14:00:33 -0000 +\start Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 10:03:18 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Alfredo Portes Subject: Re: Tarball for Mac OS X - <200611050206.kA5268V11958@localhost.localdomain> - <454D5272.7070402@hpcf.upr.edu> - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig9373C5F261DC6640731F9041" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig9373C5F261DC6640731F9041 Alfredo Portes wrote: @@ -18443,56 +11015,10 @@ $ make :-) - ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig9373C5F261DC6640731F9041 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFTe8uO8aX8Tqx8vgRAjiqAJ9W4IvbQf0DrxQHUk2KE9J3aP2PcgCeP+7f -uz+IN0pTouCFDGaEQCmFCSw= -=m33L ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig9373C5F261DC6640731F9041-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggidj-0002rK-H0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:06:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggidi-0002pG-02 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:06:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggidg-0002oE-GQ - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:06:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggidg-0002oB-Bb - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:06:20 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggidf-0004yI-Td - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:06:20 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA5E6G32020813 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 15:06:17 +0100 +\start Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 15:08:31 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list Subject: Re: ActiveAxiomDevelopers Send it to me then, I'll do it for you. The page should actually still @@ -18515,40 +11041,11 @@ On 11/05/2006 12:57 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > did not work -- I typed in all that silly info which 'preferences' > want to gather but it still did not work. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgjOu-0007Wc-1J - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:55:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgjOr-0007Uy-Jx - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:55:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgjOp-0007Tq-PI - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:55:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgjOp-0007Tk-BK - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:55:03 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgjOp-0006KK-BY - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:55:03 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DE14F3C6; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 15:54:52 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA5EoP5h009302; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 15:50:28 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA5EoPIn009301; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 15:50:25 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Ping: file removals From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch Date: 05 Nov 2006 15:50:25 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -18600,44 +11097,11 @@ the PDF generatin anyway). This morning I'll merge some changes from silver and work on the build without X11 item. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggktj-0003i8-1k - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:31:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggkth-0003hy-Bu - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:31:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggktf-0003hg-Rm - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:31:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggktf-0003hd-Og - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:30:59 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggktf-0007Z0-PL - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:30:59 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA5GUcHp006107 - for ; 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5 Nov 2006 16:33:51 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA5GO6n19999; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 11:24:06 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 11:24:06 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 05 Nov 2006 15:50:25 +0100) Subject: Re: Ping: file removals - -Cc: list > | generated documentation files: > | @@ -18722,46 +11153,13 @@ applied to the sources which people have submitted so the sources differ marginally, thus it is not possible to recreate the pdf unless you go into the archive and fetch the unpatched sources. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggl9Z-0003ni-K9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:47:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggl9Y-0003lc-8j - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:47:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggl9V-0003fC-4W - for list; 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Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:17:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgnVE-0006rf-7S - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:17:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgnVB-0006r4-1T - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:17:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgnVA-0006r0-SB - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:17:52 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.83] (helo=mail263.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgnVA-0001Gf-Nl - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:17:52 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail263.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA5JHSqm021122; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 14:17:43 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Waldek Hebisch'" Waldek Hebisch -Subject: RE: Re: ActiveAxiomDevelopers Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 14:17:25 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: RE: Re: ActiveAxiomDevelopers On November 5, 2006 6:57 AM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -19089,40 +11383,10 @@ It would be very helpful to me (and other people trying to use the wiki) if you would report any problems you have so that they can be addressed. "did not work" is not very helpful :-( -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgnnI-0000gU-2y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:36:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgnnF-0000g0-SM - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:36:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgnnD-0000ff-9N - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:36:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgnnD-0000fc-4B - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:36:31 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.67] (helo=elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgnnD-0005AY-3T - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:36:31 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=FSfIi6z5y2LPoKasp9WgjWqLIdy9ErP3ZgRxE2Dfa15kM7/Qx0dvRe6EqSJy6QK5; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.165.172.99] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1GgnnB-0002Fg-Ka - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:36:29 -0500 +Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 11:47:24 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: list -Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 11:47:24 -0800 - charset="us-ascii" Subject: drawRibbons from the book I have been working my way through the book. The first version of @@ -19178,43 +11442,11 @@ drawRibbons(flist, xrange, yrange) == Line 16: vp 8 error(s) parsing - -Richard Harke - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggnud-0002Tf-D6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:44:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggnub-0002QR-Og - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:44:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggnua-0002O8-9a - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:44:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggnua-0002O2-7A - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:44:08 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggnua-0005xH-8Y - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:44:08 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490CA4F3B8; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:43:55 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA5JdUTt013872; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:39:32 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA5JdUUQ013871; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:39:30 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 05 Nov 2006 20:39:29 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Ping: file removals -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 05 Nov 2006 20:39:29 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -19226,36 +11458,10 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: You just revealed to the world, my long-term secret plan for Axiom. :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggo4K-0000OM-CR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:54:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggo4I-0000O5-W8 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:54:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggo4G-0000Nt-H5 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:54:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggo4G-0000Nq-7O - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:54:08 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggo4G-0006qY-8C - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:54:08 -0500 -Received: from petoncle (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFF64F3F0; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:53:54 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by petoncle with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1Ggo4D-0003aa-2a; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 20:54:05 +0100 -To: list -From: Francois Maltey Date: 05 Nov 2006 20:54:04 +0100 -Cc: +From: Francois Maltey +To: list Subject: axiom for trigonometric functions again... Hello, @@ -19293,42 +11499,11 @@ Where can be the nice rewrite command trigo. to exp. added ? in sum.spad ? Long life to axiom. -Francois, in France. - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggo62-00010i-Ex - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:55:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggo60-0000zY-4B - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:55:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggo5y-0000yj-EV - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:55:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggo5y-0000yc-6Q - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:55:54 -0500 -Received: from [193.252.22.24] (helo=smtp-msa-out07.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggo5x-00076Q-I0 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:55:53 -0500 -Received: from [83.194.202.115] (ANancy-151-1-20-115.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr - [83.194.202.115]) - by mwinf0703.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 99C1C1000099 - for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:55:51 +0100 (CET) - - <454CD467.7080109@hpcf.upr.edu> - <1B703618-C362-4749-A92B-AF29354FA9C0@free.fr> -From: Raymond Manzoni -Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! +\start Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:53:46 +0100 +From: Raymond Manzoni To: list -Cc: - - - - Hi, +Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! This is a resume of the methods given here by Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga as I used them to get a working gcl and AXIOMsys (for people like me @@ -19412,44 +11587,11 @@ source now... (*) you may get an error in gcl_readline.d:221 (readline completion) I (hope temporarily...) just returned NULL; - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgpJC-0002ef-AZ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:13:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgpJ8-0002aO-UC - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:13:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgpJ7-0002Yd-7Y - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:13:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggp79-0003RP-O5 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:01:11 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.190] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggp79-0000HL-1p - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:01:11 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so2233943nfa - for ; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 13:01:09 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; - b=MMs2i74FMlyV+N0nskFzyKbuqmHkLG0Cv+h1CbugYPypY0JkgONEOoZiqlcjJMzjYz5RAx6M/nRDCYqZ7FnjQ02Ek6SUHrhL5BxklpEdfCadal81GakoMvCF6GZrU8QLHsaeSDcpAYrB1tTSqUbldRfwF+hDrrx7wbmY/E1/Fms= -Received: by 10.48.226.2 with SMTP id y2mr3021907nfg.1162760469694; - Sun, 05 Nov 2006 13:01:09 -0800 (PST) -Received: from morphism.heartland ( [62.14.113.80]) - by mx.google.com with ESMTP id k9sm9683687nfc.2006.11.05.13.01.08; - Sun, 05 Nov 2006 13:01:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 22:01:06 +0100 -From: "Juan M. Bello Rivas" +From: Juan Rivas To: list Subject: Re: Mac OS X 10.4.8 PowerPC success! - - <454CD467.7080109@hpcf.upr.edu> - <1B703618-C362-4749-A92B-AF29354FA9C0@free.fr> - <0AB76893-E550-4359-A47B-FDECACF8F17C@free.fr> - -Hi, On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 08:53:46PM +0100, Raymond Manzoni wrote: > darcs get http://page.axiom-developer.org/repository/axiom-darcs/ @@ -19462,33 +11604,10 @@ darcs get --set-scripts-executable http://page.axiom-developer.org/repository/ax then it won't be necessary to chmod +x configure. --- -Juan M. Bello Rivas - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgpPg-0007Jm-Vo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:20:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgpNx-0006Uc-Pp - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:18:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgpNq-0006Oa-PN - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:18:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgpNq-0006OF-Cr - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:18:26 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgpNq-00045s-5z - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:18:26 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GgpMv-0001V7-00 - for ; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:17:29 +0100 -To: list +\start Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 22:17:29 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: Axiom documentation and asq.c.pamphlet I just neticed that a large documentation hunk was copied almost @@ -19503,35 +11622,10 @@ replaced by text like: Database structure is described in [[src/interp/daase.lisp.pamphlet]]. Note that [[asq]] currently works only with compressed databases. - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggr9m-0003VS-Ok - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:12:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggr9j-0003Ro-Q0 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:11:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggr9g-0003N6-V7 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:11:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggr9g-0003N3-Ra - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:11:56 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggr9g-00050D-Ei - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:11:56 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Ggr8j-0000In-00 - for ; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:10:57 +0100 -To: list +\start Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:10:57 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: better pty patch Many systems (Linux, BSD and supposedly also Mac OS X) provide 'openpty' @@ -19706,46 +11800,11 @@ diff -ru build-improvements.bb/src/sman/Makefile.pamphlet build-improvements/src SMANOBJS= ${LIB}/libspad.a - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggrk2-00082a-Mc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggrk0-0007zq-BS - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggrjx-0007ui-Ex - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggrjx-0007uT-8s - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:25 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggrjx-0004JT-BZ - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:25 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA5NnCmp004194 - for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 18:49:20 -0500 -Received: (qmail 13032 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2006 23:49:05 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 5 Nov 2006 23:49:05 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA5NdCF20199; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 18:39:12 -0500 +\start Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 18:39:12 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Waldek Hebisch - Hebisch on Sun, 5 Nov 2006 22:17:29 +0100 (CET)) Subject: Re: Axiom documentation and asq.c.pamphlet -Cc: list > I just neticed that a large documentation hunk was copied almost > verbatim from 'src/interp/daase.lisp.pamphlet' into 'src/etc/asq.c.pamphlet' @@ -19767,36 +11826,11 @@ html style output. The information will certainly diverge (and you'll notice that they are structured differently) as I continue to change asq. The asq changes are not fully documented. Please have patience. -t - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgrkV-0000K6-Rv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgrkU-0000HC-CF - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgrkT-0000Fh-DE - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgrkT-0000FS-8M - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:57 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgrkT-0004Nx-7U - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:49:57 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-109-18.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-109-18.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.208.186.18]) - by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 120F21C000D7; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:49:39 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Richard Harke Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:49:18 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Richard Harke +Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book Le dimanche 05 novembre 2006 =E0 11:47 -0800, Richard Harke a =E9crit : > I have been working my way through the book. The first version of @@ -19806,66 +11840,40 @@ Le dimanche 05 novembre 2006 =E0 11:47 -0800, Richard Harke a =E9crit : > (after a )clear all) ->=20 +> > (1) -> )read ribbons -> drawRibbons(flist, xrange, yrange) =3D=3D -> sp :=3D createThreeSpace() -> num :=3D # flist -> yVar :=3D variable yrange -> y0:Float :=3D lo segment yrange -> width:Float :=3D (hi segment yrange - y0)/num +> drawRibbons(flist, xrange, yrange) == +> sp := createThreeSpace() +> num := # flist +> yVar := variable yrange +> y0:Float := lo segment yrange +> width:Float := (hi segment yrange - y0)/num > for f in flist for color in 1..num repeat -> makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=3Dy0..y0+width, -> var2Steps =3D=3D 1, colorFunction =3D=3D (x,y) +-> color, -> space =3D=3D sp) +> makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=y0..y0+width, +> var2Steps == 1, colorFunction == (x,y) +-> color, +> space == sp) ^ You have to indent this line (it will be be considered as a continuation of the previous line) or use an underscore (line continuation character), so: - makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=3Dy0..y0+width, - var2Steps =3D=3D 1, colorFunction =3D=3D (x,y) +-> color, - space =3D=3D sp) + makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=y0..y0+width, + var2Steps == 1, colorFunction == (x,y) +-> color, + space == sp) or - makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=3Dy0..y0+width, - var2Steps =3D=3D 1, colorFunction =3D=3D (x,y) +-> color,_ - space =3D=3D sp) + makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=y0..y0+width, + var2Steps == 1, colorFunction == (x,y) +-> color,_ + space == sp) With an underscore the indentation does not matter. I don't know if your code used to work in the past. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgrtY-0003n5-7i - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:59:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgrtX-0003lm-57 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:59:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgrtV-0003i5-Ev - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:59:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgrtV-0003hg-97 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:59:17 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgrtV-0005Vg-An - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:59:17 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-109-18.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-109-18.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.208.186.18]) - by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6351D1C00098; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:59:00 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Richard Harke - <1162770558.15449.15.camel@ellipse> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:58:32 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Richard Harke +Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book Le lundi 06 novembre 2006 =E0 00:49 +0100, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory a =E9crit : @@ -19875,37 +11883,10 @@ Le lundi 06 novembre 2006 =E0 00:49 +0100, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory a =E9crit : In fact there is an error in the book, the underscore does not need to be escaped. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgsLn-0007hB-2Q - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:28:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgsLl-0007h3-PQ - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:28:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgsLh-0007gT-S9 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:28:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgsLh-0007gQ-P6 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:28:25 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgsLh-0002Vv-Hp - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:28:25 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA60SNh4005854 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) - for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 01:28:23 +0100 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:30:42 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: axiom-dev +To: list Subject: Aldor compilation for Axiom Hello, @@ -19932,37 +11913,11 @@ library into Axiom. I just need a rough overview. -Thank you -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GguMo-00011H-82 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:37:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GguMn-00010S-ES - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:37:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GguMl-0000xh-N5 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:37:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GguMl-0000xY-H6 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:37:39 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.178] (helo=mail58c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GguMl-0005S1-Gk - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:37:39 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail58c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA62bEEp027301; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 21:37:29 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Ralf Hemmecke'" Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: RE: Aldor compilation for Axiom Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 21:37:10 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: 'axiom-dev' +From: Bill Page +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: Aldor compilation for Axiom On November 5, 2006 7:31 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > @@ -20043,39 +11998,11 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/public/book2.pdf I hope these comments are some some use. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgucX-0007t3-0P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:53:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgucV-0007q6-8K - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:53:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgucS-0007nX-Cz - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:53:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgucS-0007nK-9z - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:53:52 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.81] (helo=mail261.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgucS-0008QB-Cg - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:53:52 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail261.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA62rRZY026660; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 21:53:42 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 21:53:23 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: Axiom documentation and asq.c.pamphlet -Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 21:53:23 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On November 5, 2006 6:11 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > I just neticed that a large documentation hunk was copied @@ -20110,46 +12037,17 @@ is independent of whether asq produces HTML styly output or not. In reference to the underlying database structure I think you should use Waldek's version. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GguuG-0002BE-6j - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:12:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GguuF-00029P-5u - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:12:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GguuD-00026R-8T - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:12:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GguuD-00026K-3g - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:12:13 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.180] (helo=mail60c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GguuC-0003tM-Sj - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:12:13 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail60c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA63BqtF008662; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 22:12:07 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory'?=" Gregory Vanuxem, - "'Richard Harke'" Richard Harke -Subject: RE: drawRibbons from the book Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 22:11:41 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gregory Vanuxem, Richard Harke +Subject: RE: drawRibbons from the book On November 5, 2006 6:59 PM Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: ->=20 +> > In fact there is an error in the book, the underscore does not need > to be escaped. ->=20 +> Although it's small, so this kind of thing doesn't get lost in the email trash, as a matter of discipline can one of you submit a patch, @@ -20161,42 +12059,11 @@ or make the correction to the online version of the book? http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/doc/Book -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgvSB-0007es-1n - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:47:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgvS9-0007eB-Bq - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:47:17 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgvS8-0007dq-As - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:47:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgvS8-0007dl-44 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:47:16 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.69] (helo=elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgvS8-0006Uv-3u - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:47:16 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=tw2M61ivMwVnjuCN9Xoi/j3PYPSJK3pBxgcr/mHo3y1v3KPxnATvKr6EYNiAel8X; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.165.172.99] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1GgvS6-0001C1-Rq - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:47:15 -0500 +Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 19:58:10 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: list Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book -Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 19:58:10 -0800 - <1162770558.15449.15.camel@ellipse> - charset="iso-8859-1" On Sun November 5 2006 15:49, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > Le dimanche 05 novembre 2006 =E0 11:47 -0800, Richard Harke a =E9crit : @@ -20209,30 +12076,30 @@ On Sun November 5 2006 15:49, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > > > > > > (1) -> )read ribbons -> > drawRibbons(flist, xrange, yrange) =3D=3D -> > sp :=3D createThreeSpace() -> > num :=3D # flist -> > yVar :=3D variable yrange -> > y0:Float :=3D lo segment yrange -> > width:Float :=3D (hi segment yrange - y0)/num +> > drawRibbons(flist, xrange, yrange) == +> > sp := createThreeSpace() +> > num := # flist +> > yVar := variable yrange +> > y0:Float := lo segment yrange +> > width:Float := (hi segment yrange - y0)/num > > for f in flist for color in 1..num repeat -> > makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=3Dy0..y0+width, -> > var2Steps =3D=3D 1, colorFunction =3D=3D (x,y) +-> color, -> > space =3D=3D sp) +> > makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=y0..y0+width, +> > var2Steps == 1, colorFunction == (x,y) +-> color, +> > space == sp) > > ^ > You have to indent this line (it will be be considered as a continuation > of the previous line) or use an underscore (line continuation > character), so: > -> makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=3Dy0..y0+width, -> var2Steps =3D=3D 1, colorFunction =3D=3D (x,y) +-> color, -> space =3D=3D sp) +> makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=y0..y0+width, +> var2Steps == 1, colorFunction == (x,y) +-> color, +> space == sp) > or > -> makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=3Dy0..y0+width, -> var2Steps =3D=3D 1, colorFunction =3D=3D (x,y) +-> color,_ -> space =3D=3D sp) +> makeObject(f, xrange, yVar=y0..y0+width, +> var2Steps == 1, colorFunction == (x,y) +-> color,_ +> space == sp) > > With an underscore the indentation does not matter. I don't know if your > code used to work in the past. @@ -20245,11 +12112,11 @@ I am surprised that the second indenting is required as the line aboce is at the same nesting level, i.e. parameters to makeObject. When I try to execute with -drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=3D-1..1, y=3D0..1) +drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=-1..1, y=0..1) axiom quietly exits, that is, no error message. The session looks like -(2) -> drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=3D-1..1, y=3D0..1) +(2) -> drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=-1..1, y=0..1) Loading /usr/lib/axiom-20050201/algebra/UPMP.o for package UnivariatePolynomialMultiplicationPackage Loading /usr/lib/axiom-20050201/algebra/SEG.o for domain Segment @@ -20288,38 +12155,11 @@ I'd be happy to try to debug this but I don't yet have a clue how to go about it. My intent was to learn how to use it first, then worry about changing/maintaining, etc. -Richard - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggvkt-0003bO-Ap - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:06:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggvks-0003bH-4P - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:06:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggvkq-0003al-Jt - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:06:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggvkq-0003ai-DO - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:06:36 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.67] (helo=elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggvkq-0000cQ-2e - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:06:36 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=PY8LOzJL6tRXnxW7uOg64uQKLQHsA5rVVm9EENQqH9bkBfzttAUNUQ16yuImLTJp; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.165.172.99] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1Ggvkn-0003SU-HF - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:06:33 -0500 +\start +Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:17:29 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: list Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book -Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:17:29 -0800 - charset="iso-8859-1" On Sun November 5 2006 19:11, Bill Page wrote: > On November 5, 2006 6:59 PM Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: @@ -20336,49 +12176,15 @@ On Sun November 5 2006 19:11, Bill Page wrote: > > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/doc/Book -There is also a surperfluous \ in the line num :=3D \# flist +There is also a surperfluous \ in the line num := \# flist I have editted the version per the above url, I think. First time I have tried this. -Richard - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggvup-0000w2-Hr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:16:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggvuo-0000u8-1B - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:16:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggvul-0000sS-B0 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:16:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggvul-0000sP-40 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:16:51 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggvuk-0002Hc-VJ - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:16:51 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA64GUeU029781 - for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 23:16:34 -0500 -Received: (qmail 11522 invoked from network); 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- Sun, 5 Nov 2006 23:17:43 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 23:17:43 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Richard Harke - Harke on Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:17:29 -0800) Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book - <200611052017.29129.Richard Harke> - J_CHICKENPOX_55 -Cc: list fixed in axiom--silver--1 @@ -20464,37 +12238,11 @@ fixed in axiom--silver--1 y0:Float := lo segment yrange The first ribbon coordinate. width:Float := (hi segment yrange - y0)/num The width of a ribbon. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggw75-0002TE-De - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:29:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggw74-0002Ri-0Q - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:29:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggw70-0002OH-Lv - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:29:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggw70-0002O5-EP - for list; 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First > time I have tried this. > Richard @@ -20521,52 +12269,20 @@ I guess I didn't. The following is the last thing I got Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. -The proxy server could not handle the request=20 +The proxy server could not handle the request POST /axiom--test--1/src/doc/Book. Reason: Error reading from remote server Additionally, a 502 Bad Gateway error was encountered while trying to use a= -n=20 +n ErrorDocument to handle the request. - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgwKt-0008Hn-Ed - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:43:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgwKs-0008Fp-6I - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:43:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgwKq-0008DK-O3 - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:43:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgwKq-0008DC-JI - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:43:48 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgwKq-0006a0-GV - for list; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:43:48 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA64hgAU026840 - for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 23:43:42 -0500 -Received: (qmail 7039 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2006 04:43:43 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for ; 6 Nov 2006 04:43:43 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA64Xqi20362; - Sun, 5 Nov 2006 23:33:52 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 23:33:52 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Richard Harke - Harke on Sun, 5 Nov 2006 20:40:24 -0800) Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book - <200611052017.29129.Richard Harke> - <200611052040.24426.Richard Harke> -Cc: list Richard, @@ -20580,40 +12296,10 @@ The proper procedure for making changes to the sources is: In this case I've already fixed the typos. Thanks for the report. -Tim - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggx8J-0003QX-Vc - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:34:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggx8I-0003Ph-0i - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:34:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggx8G-0003PM-Gl - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:34:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggx8G-0003PI-C6 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:34:52 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.191] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggx8G-0004iq-B2 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:34:52 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so2375613nfa - for ; Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:34:50 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; - b=TVZXCwTnvZihrxn5QglmNZX3tttzlQBY7A2eNYPSGixPJSGKp0VfWjZdXrLjkocLUTu/ayLWiUHu+vANzwoatqiP/UI9hCwfNC3KDGTLkfdAeVjWEOy5EFgkwl2OWQggklwZJHamMcgLWi6jnHIkeEO71xY/0AhYTrpMIP21/TA= -Received: by 10.82.164.9 with SMTP id m9mr1215976bue.1162791290569; - Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:34:50 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Nov 2006 21:34:50 -0800 (PST) +\start Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:34:50 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page, - "Tim Daly" Tim Daly, - axiom-dev -Cc: +To: Bill Page Subject: Axiom Binaries I started working on the modifications to the @@ -20629,43 +12315,14 @@ for one page. I also want to add info from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SilverBinaries -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxAK-0006HR-0F - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:37:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxAH-0006F2-Vb - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:36:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxAG-0006Cn-6P - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:36:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgxAG-0006Ck-3H - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:36:56 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.131] (helo=mail11c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgxAG-0004xz-0W - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:36:56 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail11c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA65aOgU008854; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:36:48 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Tim Daly +\start Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:36:20 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly Subject: FW: [book] more verbatim # - - -----Original Message----- -From: Bill Page [mailto:mathaction-bounces@axiom-developer.org]=20 +From: Bill Page [mailto:mathaction-bounces@axiom-developer.org] Sent: November 6, 2006 12:27 AM To: MathAction Subject: [book] more verbatim # @@ -20675,90 +12332,56 @@ Subject: [book] more verbatim # ??changed: showRegion(vp,"on") Enclose in a box. -- n :=3D \# flist The number of ribbons -+ n :=3D # flist The number of ribbons +- n := \# flist The number of ribbons ++ n := # flist The number of ribbons zoom(vp,n,1,n) Zoom in x- and = z-directions. ??changed: - sp :=3D createThreeSpace() Create empty space = + sp := createThreeSpace() Create empty space = $sp$. -- num :=3D # flist The number of ribbons. -+ num :=3D # flist The number of ribbons. - yVar :=3D variable yrange The ribbon variable. +- num := # flist The number of ribbons. ++ num := # flist The number of ribbons. + yVar := variable yrange The ribbon variable. ??changed: - vl :=3D variables f The list of variables -- nv :=3D \# vl The number of = + vl := variables f The list of variables +- nv := \# vl The number of = variables -+ nv :=3D # vl The number of = ++ nv := # vl The number of = variables - nv > 1 =3D> error "Expression is not univariate." + nv > 1 => error "Expression is not univariate." ??changed: - arrowAngle : DFLOAT :=3D pi()-pi()/(20::DFLOAT) Local = + arrowAngle : DFLOAT := pi()-pi()/(20::DFLOAT) Local = variable 2 -- realSteps : INT :=3D 11 --\# real steps Local = +- realSteps : INT := 11 --\# real steps Local = variable 3 -- imagSteps : INT :=3D 11 --\# imaginary steps Local = +- imagSteps : INT := 11 --\# imaginary steps Local = variable 4 -+ realSteps : INT :=3D 11 --# real steps Local = ++ realSteps : INT := 11 --# real steps Local = variable 3 -+ imagSteps : INT :=3D 11 --# imaginary steps Local = ++ imagSteps : INT := 11 --# imaginary steps Local = variable 4 - clipValue : DFLOAT :=3D 10::DFLOAT --maximum vector length + clipValue : DFLOAT := 10::DFLOAT --maximum vector length ??changed: - bubbleSort!(m,f) =3D=3D -- n :=3D \#m -+ n :=3D #m + bubbleSort!(m,f) == +- n := \#m ++ n := #m for i in 1..(n-1) repeat ??changed: - insertionSort!(m,f) =3D=3D + insertionSort!(m,f) == - for i in 2..\#m repeat + for i in 2..#m repeat - j :=3D i + j := i --- -forwarded from -http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/doc/Book#msg2006110523= -264 -9-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org - - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxDH-0000sE-OA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:40:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxDG-0000qb-Rr - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:40:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxDG-0000pw-5Z - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:40:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgxDG-0000pp-1N - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:40:02 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.29] (helo=mail209.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgxDF-0005Tp-SJ - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:40:02 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail209.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA65de2c005617; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:39:54 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Richard Harke'" Richard Harke -Subject: RE: drawRibbons from the book +\start Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:39:33 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Richard, +From: Bill Page +To: Richard Harke +Subject: RE: drawRibbons from the book On November 5, 2006 11:40 PM you wrote: > > @@ -20796,39 +12419,11 @@ Sorry. It should be ok now. Please let me know if it happens again. Thanks for the edit. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxIl-0004y7-Ir - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:45:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxIj-0004wf-Ke - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:45:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgxIh-0004wL-JH - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:45:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgxIh-0004wH-Dc - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:45:39 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.180] (helo=mail60c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgxIh-0006Rq-AF - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:45:39 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail60c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA65jEW3007215; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:45:29 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Waldek Hebisch'" Waldek Hebisch -Subject: RE: Ping: file removals Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 00:45:05 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: RE: Ping: file removals On November 5, 2006 2:03 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > @@ -20863,50 +12458,10 @@ Yes, I agree completely. > ... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgyAF-0001Ji-LW - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:40:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgyAE-0001J6-31 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:40:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgyAA-0001GK-Ov - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:40:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgyAA-0001GB-KV - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:40:54 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgyAA-0005OY-GD - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:40:54 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA66ecSt018442 - for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 01:40:42 -0500 -Received: (qmail 16896 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2006 06:40:39 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 6 Nov 2006 06:40:39 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA66Unu20432; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 01:30:49 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 01:30:49 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) - J_CHICKENPOX_13, J_CHICKENPOX_17, J_CHICKENPOX_35, - J_CHICKENPOX_41, J_CHICKENPOX_42, J_CHICKENPOX_43, - J_CHICKENPOX_44, J_CHICKENPOX_45, J_CHICKENPOX_48, - J_CHICKENPOX_62, J_CHICKENPOX_74, J_CHICKENPOX_81, - J_CHICKENPOX_92 -Cc: list Subject: Re: FW: [book] more verbatim # patched in axiom--silver--1 @@ -21210,41 +12765,11 @@ patched in axiom--silver--1 for j in 1..3 repeat m(j,i) := x.j - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgyZj-0003nP-Lm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:07:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgyZi-0003nK-DC - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:07:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgyZh-0003n8-09 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:07:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgyZg-0003n5-Qr - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:07:16 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgyZd-0001Kr-4t - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:07:16 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA6775r1016912 - for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 02:07:06 -0500 -Received: (qmail 24633 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2006 07:07:06 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Waldek Hebisch; 6 Nov 2006 07:07:06 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA66vGe20457; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 01:57:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 01:57:16 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: Re: Ping: file removals -Cc: list > I agree. In general there should not be any pdf files in the source > code repository. @@ -21300,43 +12825,11 @@ against the fundamental project goals. Please look around, read and understand these goals. They've been written down and talked about at length both in this group and online at various places. -Tim - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggyzp-0007He-IE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:34:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggyzn-0007H6-Q8 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:34:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ggyzl-0007Ga-Ia - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:34:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ggyzl-0007GW-EM - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:34:13 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ggyzl-00048Z-Ak - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:34:13 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Ggyzd-0001S8-CM; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:34:05 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Ggyzd-0005M4-9r; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:34:05 +0100 +\start +Date: 06 Nov 2006 08:34:04 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: Aldor compilation for Axiom -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 06 Nov 2006 08:34:04 +0100 -Cc: axiom-dev Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -21387,49 +12880,13 @@ Unfortunately, why. The signatures seem to get loaded, but calling a function makes axiom stumble. - - - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgzUY-0000kj-SB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 03:06:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgzUW-0000jP-Ff - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 03:06:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GgzUV-0000ih-Cs - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 03:05:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgzUV-0000ib-7b - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 03:05:59 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgzUU-0000yD-Nx - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 03:05:59 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0794F3D4; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 09:05:52 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA681JKv022205; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 09:01:21 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA681J8O022204; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 09:01:19 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 06 Nov 2006 09:01:18 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Ping: file removals - <200611060657.kA66vGe20457@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 06 Nov 2006 09:01:18 +0100 -Cc: list -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: [...] @@ -21474,42 +12931,13 @@ implementation then maybe: (1) there is more than one way to do it; or (2) your implementation is really questionable. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh2Iq-0006Gu-PH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:06:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh2In-0006Fz-8b - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:06:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh2Ij-0006EX-3M - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:06:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh2Ii-0006Ds-KX - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:06:00 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.186] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh2Ii-0002Jd-1R - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:06:00 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id a4so1244353nfc - for ; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 03:05:59 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=VCJo+JqJ+PkjiRNZq5OPnWpIsKqZhAVt8/BS2VgdNohaOu2vUd2w5cXzL9O2R87ATHwsglgEN5KCPSUVwjuMIGgb+G/uYVtOIzLk/gZvGJDkudnIHBd1RVJ1A3q0GL/Prt7JbGRL4t6adjKLFUnr07mXgUpKL2S6PHPDocY1tbw= -Received: by 10.82.153.5 with SMTP id a5mr1242509bue.1162811158747; - Mon, 06 Nov 2006 03:05:58 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 03:05:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 06:05:58 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: Ping: file removals - <200611060657.kA66vGe20457@localhost.localdomain> -Cc: list -On 11/6/06, root Tim Daly wrote: +On 11/6/06, Tim Daly wrote: > > I agree. In general there should not be any pdf files in the source > > code repository. > @@ -21526,35 +12954,11 @@ not the SCM programs. I do not think this contradicts in any way the concept of LP and the Axiom goals. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4nS-0001Wq-Bn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:45:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4nP-0001Vp-AR - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:45:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4nK-0001Tz-95 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:45:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh4nJ-0001Ts-F4 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:45:45 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh4nJ-00054o-0S - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:45:45 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gh4m8-00025b-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:44:32 +0100 -Subject: Re: Ping: file removals -To: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:44:32 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Tim Daly +Subject: Re: Ping: file removals > > I agree. In general there should not be any pdf files in the source > > code repository. @@ -21623,37 +13027,13 @@ Lisp is a "human oriented output"? We may wish to show some specimens of machine generated Lisp to illustrate how the compiler works, but the bulk of it belongs to a special ghetto. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4rw-0007J6-A4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:50:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4rt-0007FB-Ts - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:50:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4rp-00079e-Ou - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:50:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh4rp-00079D-Fn - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:50:25 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh4rp-0005hJ-FN - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:50:25 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh4rT-0003BT-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:50:03 -0500 -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page +\start Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 From: Camm Maguire +To: Bill Page Date: 06 Nov 2006 08:50:03 -0500 -Cc: list -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: > Camm, > @@ -21701,45 +13081,17 @@ configure.in and passed to the binutils subconfigures should remove the above. I.e. ./configure --prefix=... should work, if anyone has a moment to verify. -Take care, - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4tU-0001Ai-TM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:52:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4tR-00014T-SP - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:52:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4tP-000110-7u - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:52:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4tP-00010n-3t; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:52:03 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gh4tP-0005ub-34; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:52:03 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh4tB-0003Br-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:51:49 -0500 -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf - <54u01hpzee.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <454A7D73.5020004@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 06 Nov 2006 08:51:49 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: sock_get_string_buf Greetings and thanks! This should be in cvs now. Take care, -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: > Camm Maguire wrote: > > @@ -21778,39 +13130,11 @@ Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: > > --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4uP-0002hW-UR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:53:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4uO-0002fi-97 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:53:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh4uJ-0002XG-Dd - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:53:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh4uJ-0002Wx-64 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:52:59 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.109] (helo=mail289.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh4uJ-0006CU-5h - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:52:59 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail289.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA6DqWns005358; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 08:52:48 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +\start +Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 08:52:26 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: Ping: file removals -Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 08:52:26 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On November 6, 2006 1:57 AM Tim Daly wrote: > Bill Page wrote: @@ -21941,37 +13265,12 @@ the work they are doing is the only viable way forward. I agree with all of the goals but I disagree on a number of specific points about how you think we should achieve them. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh51O-0006Ai-D6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:00:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh51M-00067T-3s - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:00:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh51K-00064J-0u - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:00:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh51J-00063P-Dl - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:00:13 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh51I-0007Jv-Uo - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:00:13 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh50i-0003Iu-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:59:36 -0500 -To: Waldek Hebisch -Subject: re: Bug#346552: naive methods of exiting axiom - can blow up catastrophically -From: Camm Maguire Date: 06 Nov 2006 08:59:36 -0500 -Cc: list, 346552@bugs.debian.org, Tom Hargreaves +From: Camm Maguire +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: re: Bug#346552: naive methods of exiting axiom can blow up catastrophically +Cc: Tom Hargreaves Greetings, and thanks for looking into this! @@ -22032,45 +13331,10 @@ up but no console. Personally, I don't think it too egregious to terminate everything when the 'master' axiom sys (i.e. the first one opened') reads EOF. -Take care, - -> -> -- -> Waldek Hebisch -> Waldek Hebisch -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh52T-00074n-47 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:01:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh52O-00071t-OZ - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:01:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh52N-00070h-Si - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:01:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh52N-00070M-Iq - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:01:19 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh52N-0007jI-3J - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:01:19 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh52M-0003JI-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:01:18 -0500 -To: Tim Daly -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 06 Nov 2006 09:01:18 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Camm Maguire +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: lastest tests Thank you so much Tim! The intl patch is in now. @@ -22080,7 +13344,7 @@ that important anymore, is sparc solaris. Take care, -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: > I did a checkout of > @@ -22105,44 +13369,12 @@ root Tim Daly writes: > successfully builds and saves on Fedora 6 > successfully builds and saves on RedHat 9 > successfully builds and saves on RedHat 7.2 -> -> t -> -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh53y-0008OO-0x - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:02:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh53u-0008L5-MH - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:02:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh53s-0008Im-DE - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:02:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh53s-0008IP-3w; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:02:52 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gh53r-0007v3-GK; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:02:51 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh53p-0003Jb-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:02:49 -0500 +\start +Date: 06 Nov 2006 09:02:49 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: lastest tests - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 06 Nov 2006 09:02:49 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Greetings, and thanks! I guess I must have beat you to it. Just a quick note -- when we do commit a bug fix to the proto-stable branch, @@ -22153,7 +13385,7 @@ Take care, Gabriel Dos Reis writes: -> root Tim Daly writes: +> Tim Daly writes: > > | I did a checkout of > | @@ -22161,45 +13393,12 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > | With the patch to remove the -lintl from h/powerpc-macosx.defs LIBS line > > I'll commit that patch to gcl-2.8.pre, and update axiom.build-improvements. -> -> -- Gaby -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh59x-000357-Dw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:09:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh59v-00032w-QX - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:09:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh59u-00030t-PT - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:09:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh59u-00030h-JQ - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:09:06 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh59u-0000LI-Bp - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:09:06 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh59h-0003MN-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:08:53 -0500 -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <5464dyc4j2.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <454A91C7.1050404@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 06 Nov 2006 09:08:53 -0500 -Cc: list - -Greetings! +From: Camm Maguire +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 May I suggest trying this entry from amd64-linux.h: @@ -22236,7 +13435,7 @@ Please keep me posted. Take care, -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: > Camm Maguire wrote: > @@ -22259,56 +13458,12 @@ Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: > > option is --disable-statsysbfd --enable-dlopen. > > Can I simply delete the cache sync code and try this? -> -> -- -> Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -> Programmer-Archaeologist -> University of Puerto Rico -> http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh5bu-0002pc-ME - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:38:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh5bt-0002nT-3o - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:38:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh5bo-0002eW-Pk - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:38:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh5bo-0002eC-HI - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:37:56 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh5bo-0005kj-Cy - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:37:56 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5854F44E; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 15:37:46 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA6EXGEm028197; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 15:33:18 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA6EXGC1028196; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 15:33:16 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 06 Nov 2006 15:33:15 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: lastest tests - - <541wogr7ue.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 06 Nov 2006 15:33:15 +0100 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Camm Maguire writes: @@ -22325,55 +13480,17 @@ After GCL-2.6.8 is out (I hope we are reaching the end of the pressing issues this wee), could we make GCL head's configure wrok with Autoconf 2.52 and higher? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh61F-00028u-Sb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:04:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh61E-00026A-LF - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:04:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh619-0001wl-M5 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:04:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh619-0001wW-Hk - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:04:07 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh618-0000qq-S1 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:04:07 -0500 -Received: (qmail 9678 invoked by uid 7797); 6 Nov 2006 15:00:59 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.101663 secs); 06 Nov 2006 15:00:59 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 6 Nov 2006 15:00:59 -0000 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:03:42 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig9B9200947086AB0AB1039176" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig9B9200947086AB0AB1039176 Camm Maguire wrote: > OK, I've commited the removal of -lintl from powerpc-macosx.defs from > both branches. This and the --disable-nls which is now in > configure.in and passed to the binutils subconfigures should remove -> the above. I.e. ./configure --prefix=3D... should work, if anyone has= +> the above. I.e. ./configure --prefix=... should work, if anyone has= > a moment to verify. @@ -22382,8 +13499,8 @@ I just tested with a new copy from CVS, and gcl compiles without problems= I used: -$ ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local --disable-statsysbfd --enable-locbfd ---enable-vssize=3D65536*2 --enable-maxpage=3D256*1024 --disable-x +$ ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --disable-statsysbfd --enable-locbfd +--enable-vssize=65536*2 --enable-maxpage=256*1024 --disable-x --disable-xgcl --disable-tkconfig I'll try to build an axiom with that later today. @@ -22391,63 +13508,13 @@ I'll try to build an axiom with that later today. Gaby, how current is the tarball in build-improvements? Have you included these patches? ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig9B9200947086AB0AB1039176 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFT07VO8aX8Tqx8vgRAqhsAKCEROavyDMzxB8mLLDAQqkhScOb6wCgi8J4 -gif5z70kMBY0KAqRZ4mO3e4= -=63es ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig9B9200947086AB0AB1039176-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6ED-0004oI-Kr - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:17:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6EC-0004nS-Gk - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:17:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6EA-0004mE-Ao - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:17:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh6E9-0004lc-Nz - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:17:33 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh6E8-0003tg-JR - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:17:32 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281864F466; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:17:21 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA6FCj5n028868; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:12:53 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA6FCjEJ028867; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:12:45 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 06 Nov 2006 16:12:45 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: | Camm Maguire wrote: | > OK, I've commited the removal of -lintl from powerpc-macosx.defs from @@ -22478,44 +13545,12 @@ While composing this message, I fired the upgrade to the most recent GCL-2.6.8pre. Do you see any other patches that I may have forgotten that should go into build-improvements? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6RS-0003sc-0M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:31:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6RQ-0003ry-3P - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:31:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6RN-0003ov-MP - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:31:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh6RN-0003oo-Fe - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:31:13 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh6RN-0007uY-GR - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:31:13 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B444F4A1; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:31:03 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA6FQXMW029341; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:26:35 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA6FQXql029340; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:26:33 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 06 Nov 2006 16:26:33 +0100 -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +Cc: Camm Maguire Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -22530,38 +13565,11 @@ of GCL-2.6.8pre. | Do you see any other patches that I may have forgotten | that should go into build-improvements? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6n0-0003kb-5K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:53:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6mz-0003k4-1Z - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:53:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6mu-0003jT-Cm - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:53:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6mu-0003jO-94; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:53:28 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gh6mu-00022p-DU; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:53:28 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh6mr-0004Hd-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:53:25 -0500 +Date: 06 Nov 2006 10:53:25 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: lastest tests - - <541wogr7ue.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 06 Nov 2006 10:53:25 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -Greetings! Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -22586,47 +13594,11 @@ configure.in and move to Makefile.am sources. But there is so much more that is more pressing than this, that the status quo has prevailed for some time. -Take care, - -> -- Gaby -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6pZ-0005SC-A6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:56:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6pX-0005RH-Vs - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:56:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh6pT-0005PX-Ex - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:56:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh6pT-0005PU-4X - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:56:07 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh6pT-0002mS-1z - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:56:07 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh6p7-0004KF-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:55:45 -0500 +\start +Date: 06 Nov 2006 10:55:45 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 06 Nov 2006 10:55:45 -0500 -Cc: list - -Greetings! If someone has a moment, could someone please explain to me the relationship between the various axiom branches, and which one is @@ -22637,7 +13609,7 @@ Take care, Gabriel Dos Reis writes: -> Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga writes: +> Humberto Zuazaga writes: > > | Camm Maguire wrote: > | > OK, I've commited the removal of -lintl from powerpc-macosx.defs from @@ -22669,53 +13641,12 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > that should go into build-improvements? > > -- Gaby -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh7KE-0004CA-JY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:27:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh7KB-00047d-08 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:27:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh7K5-0003yZ-JR - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:27:49 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh7K5-0003y9-Di - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:27:45 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.101] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh7K5-0006Fm-6P - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:27:45 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1130A41086; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:27:42 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA6GN5q5030515; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:23:07 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA6GN5uc030514; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:23:05 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 06 Nov 2006 17:23:04 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: lastest tests - - <541wogr7ue.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <5464ds7eru.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 06 Nov 2006 17:23:04 +0100 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Camm Maguire writes: @@ -22752,40 +13683,11 @@ Yes. :-( I hope to have some students interested in GCL, research-wise. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh7t2-0005ty-4h - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:03:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh7sy-0005pz-Mh - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:03:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh7ss-0005kL-7f - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:03:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh7sr-0005jt-TO; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:03:42 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1Gh7sr-0005Ob-B6; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:03:41 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gh7sp-000513-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:03:39 -0500 +Date: 06 Nov 2006 12:03:39 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: lastest tests - - <541wogr7ue.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <5464ds7eru.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 06 Nov 2006 12:03:39 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org - -Greetings! Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -22831,51 +13733,19 @@ the needs of the students as well. Take care, > -- Gaby -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh8lm-0005zc-6B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:00:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh8lk-0005wl-83 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:00:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh8lf-0005oX-J0 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:00:23 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh8lf-0005o9-DA - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:00:19 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.17] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh8le-0005Il-Sf - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:00:19 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-21-21.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-21-21.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.211.21]) - by mwinf1907.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EF2E01C000D3; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 19:00:17 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Richard Harke - <1162770558.15449.15.camel@ellipse> - <200611051958.10480.Richard Harke> +\start Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:00:35 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Richard Harke +Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book Le dimanche 05 novembre 2006 =E0 19:58 -0800, Richard Harke a =E9crit : [...] > When I try to execute with -> drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=3D-1..1, y=3D0..1) +> drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=-1..1, y=0..1) > axiom quietly exits, that is, no error message. I believe your version of Axiom has a bug which was recently fixed in @@ -22883,42 +13753,11 @@ silver and build-improvents, see: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-10/msg00582.html - -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh9TS-0000H4-3l - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:45:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh9TQ-0000G4-SM - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:45:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh9TM-0000EE-Oq - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:45:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh9TM-0000EB-Mb - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:45:28 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.65] (helo=elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh9TM-00063q-PZ - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:45:28 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=IXTxBBpVVqYrsMuT9e+pK1dKO6Hxs2UDN8I9iMrrBXeegJJJ0jo8pXV8DDmc2xGu; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.165.170.197] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1Gh9TJ-0004sa-NJ - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:45:25 -0500 +Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 10:56:20 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: list Subject: Re: drawRibbons from the book -Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 10:56:20 -0800 - <200611051958.10480.Richard Harke> - <1162836035.3218.14.camel@ellipse> - charset="iso-8859-1" On Mon November 6 2006 10:00, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > Le dimanche 05 novembre 2006 =E0 19:58 -0800, Richard Harke a =E9crit : @@ -22926,7 +13765,7 @@ On Mon November 6 2006 10:00, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > [...] > > > When I try to execute with -> > drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=3D-1..1, y=3D0..1) +> > drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=-1..1, y=0..1) > > axiom quietly exits, that is, no error message. > > I believe your version of Axiom has a bug which was recently fixed in @@ -22935,43 +13774,11 @@ On Mon November 6 2006 10:00, Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-10/msg00582.html Quite right. That was an older version installed from Debian. On another machine installed from CVS this June, there is no problem. -Richard - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh9kE-0005FE-Ab - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:02:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh9kC-0005AB-B3 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:02:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gh9k9-00051z-BZ - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:02:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gh9k9-00051a-2j - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:02:49 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gh9k8-00007A-1g - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:02:48 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA6J2VKQ019086 - for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:02:41 -0500 -Received: (qmail 30936 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2006 19:02:31 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 6 Nov 2006 19:02:31 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA6IqYn21067; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:52:34 -0500 + +\start Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:52:34 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Waldek Hebisch - Hebisch on Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:44:32 +0100 (CET)) -Cc: list Subject: The 30 Year Horizon > Tim, first I must question your monopoly on stating Axiom goals. @@ -23106,12 +13913,6 @@ a snapshot of GCL and how "wrong" this is to subsume other projects imagine the outcry when Axiom swallows ACL2 in order to support a program proof technology, one of the stated goals. - - - - - - > Secondly, I read many times what you wrote about Axiom goals and > I find it still not clear -- there are nice dreams (which I share > with you) and implementation strategy (which I doubt will work). @@ -23149,47 +13950,13 @@ adoption of standards. Your car will be blindingly fast. But you've missed the goal. -Tim - - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhAaZ-0004Yj-Ld - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:56:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhAaX-0004T4-Ly - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:56:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhAaW-0004PG-1b - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:56:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhAaV-0004Ot-R5 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:56:55 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.101] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhAaV-0001ar-Ia - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:56:56 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55C040E85; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 20:56:52 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA6JqE8K002942; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 20:52:16 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA6JqE9D002941; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 20:52:14 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Tim Daly - <200611061852.kA6IqYn21067@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 06 Nov 2006 20:52:14 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: The 30 Year Horizon -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: [...] @@ -23412,45 +14179,11 @@ echo "document [ -o redirect ] pamphlet" # set +x - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBJ7-00008R-At - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:43:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBJ4-00005Q-TP - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:42:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBJ4-0008Vm-4g - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:42:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhBJ4-0008VU-0D - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:42:58 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhBJ3-00013r-Ts - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:42:58 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360E51CFB0 - for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:42:54 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (smtp.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-3-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0081B764; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:42:52 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CC046DE03; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:42:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:42:48 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <54r6wgy3ge.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: list On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Camm Maguire wrote: @@ -23499,45 +14232,13 @@ However, there are basically three branches: * the third branch is by Antoine. It "looks" less active at the moment. I'm not really qualified to comment. - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBMn-0004j8-6S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:46:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBMk-0004ip-FS - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:46:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBMj-0004ia-Vs - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:46:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhBMj-0004iX-QM - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:46:45 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.101] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhBMj-0001UO-Qm - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:46:45 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6743340F09; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 21:46:43 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA6Kg58U004482; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 21:42:07 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA6Kg5lr004481; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 21:42:05 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: Ping: file removals -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 06 Nov 2006 21:42:04 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Ping: file removals -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -23567,37 +14268,11 @@ something. If the source code is complete, then there is no need to maintain the PDF format in the source core repository. That does not necesarily mean information is thrown away. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBo6-0007DD-JR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:15:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBo4-00078s-9s - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:15:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBo1-00073N-Mc - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:14:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhBo1-00072v-H4 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:14:57 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhBo1-0006oW-E9 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:14:57 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GhBko-0007CE-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:11:38 -0500 +Date: 06 Nov 2006 16:11:38 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <54r6wgy3ge.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 06 Nov 2006 16:11:38 -0500 -Cc: list Greetings, and thanks so much! @@ -23655,54 +14330,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > > * the third branch is by Antoine. It "looks" less active at the > moment. I'm not really qualified to comment. -> -> -> -- Gaby -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBpC-0000uX-Bo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:16:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBpA-0000r4-Tw - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:16:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhBp8-0000jo-7R - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:16:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhBp7-0000jM-T7 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:16:05 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhBp7-0006w6-Ng - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:16:05 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA6LFtW3004576 - for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:15:59 -0500 -Received: (qmail 16941 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2006 21:15:55 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Tim Daly; 6 Nov 2006 21:15:55 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA6L60f21146; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:06:00 -0500 +\start Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:06:00 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 06 Nov 2006 20:52:14 +0100) - <200611061852.kA6IqYn21067@localhost.localdomain> - -Cc: list Subject: Re: The 30 Year Horizon Ok. Clearly I'm not getting my point across. @@ -23732,42 +14364,11 @@ Choose your own goals, create your own future. I'm stepping away from the lead developer role and will now act as just another developer. -Tim Daly - - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDU6-0002br-Pz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:02:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDU5-0002Zt-PW - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:02:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDU3-0002Wx-SF - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:02:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhDU3-0002Wg-NS - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:02:27 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhDU2-0004LD-Kc - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:02:26 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA6N2NwK029106 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 00:02:24 +0100 Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:02:17 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Aldor compilation for Axiom -Cc: 'axiom-dev' Hello Bill, @@ -23858,47 +14459,13 @@ you suggested. Yes, definitely. Thanks a lot. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDcg-00081k-9L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:11:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDce-00080T-Du - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:11:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDcd-0007zk-6p - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:11:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhDcd-0007zg-3Y - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:11:19 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhDcb-00063T-S1 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:11:18 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B0E4F3B8; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 00:11:02 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA6N6a7F008008; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 00:06:39 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA6N6a8W008007; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 00:06:36 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Tim Daly - <200611061852.kA6IqYn21067@localhost.localdomain> - - <200611062106.kA6L60f21146@localhost.localdomain> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 07 Nov 2006 00:06:35 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Tim Daly Subject: Re: The 30 Year Horizon -root Tim Daly writes: +Tim Daly writes: | Ok. Clearly I'm not getting my point across. | And we're not communicating. @@ -23912,51 +14479,11 @@ root Tim Daly writes: If you think people want you to step away, then clearly we're not communicating. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDoP-0004l9-Jg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:23:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDoN-0004gF-Ck - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:23:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhDoM-0004dR-Hv - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:23:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhDoM-0004d2-6K - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:23:26 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhDoL-000160-VE - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:23:26 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFCD16DE; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:23:24 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 01937-02-2; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:23:23 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-4-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8170F179F; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:23:22 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4024C46DE19; - Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:23:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:23:19 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Camm Maguire Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <54r6wgy3ge.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <547iy8xotx.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> -Cc: list On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Camm Maguire wrote: @@ -23977,52 +14504,12 @@ then it looks to me as if we would make 'official' axiom release tarballs from the "gold branch (which is not anywhere under SVN at the moment). --- Gaby - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhFYL-0005CU-LV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:15:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhFYJ-00058S-25 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:14:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhFYH-00056Z-Fc - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:14:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhFYH-000563-77 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:14:57 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhFYG-00023R-O1 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:14:57 -0500 -Received: (qmail 8902 invoked by uid 7797); 7 Nov 2006 01:11:54 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.126378 secs); 07 Nov 2006 01:11:54 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 7 Nov 2006 01:11:53 -0000 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:14:31 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enigCCE339638DB286C32507AA82" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enigCCE339638DB286C32507AA82 +Cc: Camm Maguire Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -24044,9 +14531,9 @@ and 2) $ svn diff src/graph/viewman/viewman.c.pamphlet Index: src/graph/viewman/viewman.c.pamphlet -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D +========================== +========================== +================= --- src/graph/viewman/viewman.c.pamphlet (revision 252) +++ src/graph/viewman/viewman.c.pamphlet (working copy) @@ -116,7 +116,7 @@ @@ -24066,53 +14553,10 @@ and fails with permission problems). I'll try to send Camm a patch (or at least a real bug report). ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enigCCE339638DB286C32507AA82 - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFT93/O8aX8Tqx8vgRAgdrAKCcBNt819DM2/ekJKmd5I9UUKNJaACfeIGj -l0lcox42BO5CIfHvEGY6HJc= -=VfHd ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enigCCE339638DB286C32507AA82-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhHoU-0001z7-F2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:39:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhHoS-0001yE-KW - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:39:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhHoQ-0001wt-Rq - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:39:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhHoQ-0001wp-Ny - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:39:46 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.132] (helo=mail12c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhHoQ-0008WM-Ng - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:39:46 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail12c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA73dIxS004420; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 22:39:35 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 22:38:50 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: The 30 Year Horizon Tim, @@ -24185,38 +14629,10 @@ previous hard work and for your continued commitment to Axiom. I have no doubt that it will continue to be a benefit to many people over the next 30 years... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhIPu-0002lz-Ok - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:18:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhIPs-0002lV-Sx - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:18:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhIPr-0002l9-54 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:18:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhIPr-0002l6-26 - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:18:27 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.135] (helo=mail15c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhIPq-0004je-SH - for list; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:18:27 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail15c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA74HsUH007340; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 23:18:12 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Tim Daly Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 23:17:25 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Tim Daly Subject: RE: The 30 Year Horizon Tim, @@ -24374,36 +14790,11 @@ If we don't "energize people by showing rapid progress" and thereby attract new developers and new contributions, there is no way to achieve any of the goals that you have set for Axiom. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhQbT-0000oV-Fw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:02:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhQbQ-0000k7-Ea - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:02:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhQbO-0000hy-Pe - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:02:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhQbO-0000hT-GA - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:02:54 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhQbN-0005rz-Ng - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:02:54 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhQaN-0007Wy-00; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:01:51 +0100 -Subject: Re: axiom for trigonometric functions again... -To: Francois Maltey Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 14:01:51 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Francois Maltey +Subject: Re: axiom for trigonometric functions again... Francois Maltey wrote: > In fact I try today to get a nice result for this exercice I'll give to my @@ -24430,38 +14821,14 @@ ElementaryFunctionStructurePackage? In principle rischNormalize should be able to do all possible trigonometric (and logarithmic) simplifications. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhQs6-00030e-7l - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:20:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhQs4-00030K-Ig - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:20:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhQs0-0002xO-3U - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:20:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhQrz-0002xL-VR - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:20:03 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhQrz-00020a-Q7 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:20:04 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhQqx-0000hu-00; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:18:59 +0100 -Subject: Re: Ping: file removals -To: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 14:18:59 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Ping: file removals Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: -> "Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +> Bill Page writes: > > [...] > @@ -24492,47 +14859,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > necesarily mean information is thrown away. > -Exactly. - - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhS3m-0005pe-1I - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:36:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhS3j-0005pX-Ta - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:36:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhS3i-0005p6-6Q - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:36:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhS3i-0005p3-1A - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:36:14 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhS3h-0003Bv-Mo - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:36:13 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00A24F41F; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 15:36:03 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA7EVQFc021271; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 15:31:28 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA7EVQ5u021270; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 15:31:26 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 07 Nov 2006 15:31:26 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Axiom unsoundness -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Nov 2006 15:31:26 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -24574,43 +14905,11 @@ Even when we think the operation is meaningless, the system should try hard not to crash. In fact, the system can predict that the operation is nonsensical and issue appropriate message. --- Gaby - - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhSGi-0001Wl-Iz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:49:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhSGg-0001Vh-NS - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:49:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhSGb-0001U3-Rc - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:49:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhSGb-0001Tz-KQ - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:49:33 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhSGb-0002Pa-Jn - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:49:33 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GhSG6-0001tC-00; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:49:02 -0500 +Date: 07 Nov 2006 09:49:01 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <54r6wgy3ge.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - - <547iy8xotx.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 07 Nov 2006 09:49:01 -0500 -Cc: list Greetings! Thanks! I'll give it a read. @@ -24636,46 +14935,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: > then it looks to me as if we would make 'official' axiom release > tarballs from the "gold branch (which is not anywhere under SVN at > the moment). -> -> -- Gaby -> -> -> -> -> --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhTOg-0003CI-HH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:01:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhTOe-0003CD-P2 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:01:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhTOd-0003C0-2H - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:01:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhTOc-0003Bx-TW - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:01:54 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.64] (helo=mail244.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhTOb-00025R-WC - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:01:54 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail244.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA7G1R3a006763; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 11:01:44 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: +\start Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 11:01:18 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: +From: Bill Page +To: list Subject: FW: Pyrex and SAGE Axiom Developers, @@ -24694,11 +14958,8 @@ Regards, Bill Page. -----Original Message----- -From: sage-devel@googlegroups.com [mailto:sage-devel@googlegroups.com] - On Behalf Of William Stein Sent: November 7, 2006 5:00 AM -To: greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz -Cc: sage-devel@googlegroups.com +To: Greg Ewing Subject: [sage-devel] Pyrex and SAGE Hi Greg, @@ -24762,50 +15023,11 @@ available. So whatever you prefer it won't stop people interested in using Pyrex from potentially benefiting from any SAGE work on Pyrex. -Best regards, - - William Stein - Associate Professor of Mathematics - University of Washington - ---~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ -To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com -To unsubscribe from this group, send email to -sage-devel-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com -For more options, visit this group at -http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel -URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and -http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ --~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhWXT-0007cU-TQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:23:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhWXS-0007c5-26 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:23:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhWXQ-0007bg-Mq - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:23:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhWXQ-0007bd-H8 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:23:12 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhWXQ-0007im-7y - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:23:12 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhWWQ-0000wA-00; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:22:10 +0100 -Subject: Re: Ping: file removals -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 20:22:10 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: Ping: file removals Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > | files created during build process, but version from repo is referenced @@ -24880,35 +15102,10 @@ diff -ru build-improvements.bb/src/share/Makefile.pamphlet build-improvements/sr @ \eject - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhXdZ-0008L2-FP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:33:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhXdX-0008J5-Ua - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:33:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhXdW-0008Fx-3w - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:33:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhXdV-0008FR-K5 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:33:33 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhXdV-0004ry-E0 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:33:33 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhXcY-0006Rs-00 - for ; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:32:34 +0100 -To: list +\start Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:32:34 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: build-improvements and latex I tried again 'make dvi' in build-improvements. There are still three @@ -24982,42 +15179,11 @@ diff -ru build-improvements.bb/src/etc/Makefile.pamphlet build-improvements/src/ \begin{abstract} \end{abstract} - - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhY2y-0004Ns-4E - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:59:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhY2w-0004L6-Nn - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:59:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhY2s-0004Cj-E5 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:59:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhY2s-0004CZ-AZ - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:59:46 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhY2s-0000OP-5r - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:59:46 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA7KxhTC011041 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:59:43 +0100 +\start Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:59:49 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list I oppose against special treatment of .sty files. @@ -25029,9 +15195,6 @@ noweave file.ext.pamphlet > file.ext.pamphlet.tex remove ".pamphlet" and add ".tex". That rule seems to be a bit simpler than having to explain why .sty files must be treated separately. -Ralf - - On 11/07/2006 09:32 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > I tried again 'make dvi' in build-improvements. There are still three > problems: @@ -25110,28 +15273,10 @@ On 11/07/2006 09:32 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhYR6-0007Sd-Pg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:24:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhYR5-0007Rb-TI - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:24:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhYR3-0007P8-RG - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:24:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhYR3-0007Ot-Lr - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:24:45 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhYR3-0005Fz-Bn - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:24:45 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhYPz-0008Tl-00; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:23:39 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Bill Page Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 22:23:39 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 Bill Page wrote: > On November 3, 2006 2:16 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: @@ -25295,47 +15440,11 @@ case insensitive filesystems. \newcommand{\zeta}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/zeta.bitmap}} \newcommand{\bs}{\\} - - - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhYix-00047t-Jo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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Tue, 7 Nov 2006 22:38:23 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 07 Nov 2006 22:38:23 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Nov 2006 22:38:23 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -25378,43 +15487,11 @@ looks, we have to explain in the pamphlets (to people not versed in system programming), especially the faith of regexp.h and why we must use and remove the old macro interface. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhYph-0006Hn-DO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:50:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhYpf-0006HF-OU - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:50:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhYpc-0006GI-Dj - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:50:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhYpc-0006G5-6g - for list; 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Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:32:31 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 07 Nov 2006 23:32:31 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4550F3C5.30408@hemmecke.de> - - <455103BE.5030903@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Nov 2006 23:32:31 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -25699,38 +15690,11 @@ I thought your suggestion was Is that correct? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZeS-0008Pg-MV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:42:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZeQ-0008PL-Ox - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:42:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZeP-0008P6-TY - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:42:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhZeP-0008P3-Pf - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:42:37 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhZeP-0001Jy-FL - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:42:37 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA7MgZTC014384 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:42:35 +0100 Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:42:41 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list On 11/07/2006 11:17 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke wrote: @@ -25789,43 +15753,11 @@ the "top-level" chunks and which are the corresponding filenames for notangle. (I explicitly say notangle, since I still want to see my suggestion of adding ".tex" to obtain ".pamphlet.tex" for noweave.) -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZfW-0000Ih-6A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:43:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZfU-0000IX-De - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:43:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZfT-0000IK-SU - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:43:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhZfT-0000IH-Ma - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:43:43 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhZfT-0001PF-M1 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:43:43 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31E44F3BC; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:43:28 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA7Md0j0000747; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:39:02 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA7Md0OV000746; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:39:00 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 07 Nov 2006 23:38:59 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Nov 2006 23:38:59 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -25864,53 +15796,22 @@ I would like to understand more Ralf's suggestion, because I got the impression that we already implemented what he is suggesting (but apparently no). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZhc-0002oW-DK - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:45:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZha-0002m4-Gn - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:45:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZhY-0002k9-I1 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:45:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhZhY-0002jx-DO - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:45:52 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhZhY-0001qy-CM - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:45:52 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 9169067FA3; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 17:45:48 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id A42DB67D10; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 17:45:46 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 17:45:42 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccCusHeA8n1C3BZTvW21sEHwRNgGAAAcOGA From: Bill Page -To: "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:17 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: ->=20 +> > Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > I oppose against special treatment of .sty files. -> >=20 +> > > > The general rule should be -> >=20 +> > > > notangle file.ext.pamphlet > file.ext > > noweave file.ext.pamphlet > file.ext.pamphlet.tex -> >=20 +> > > > remove ".pamphlet" and add ".tex". That rule seems to be > > a bit simpler than having to explain why .sty files must > > be treated separately. @@ -25919,8 +15820,8 @@ On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:17 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: I don't think what Waldek proposes amounts to "separate treatment". He is just observing that the existing name for the pamphlet file conflicts with the behaviour of latex. -=20 ->=20 + +> > Well, .sty files _are_ special (normal files do not contain > "self references"). @@ -25934,7 +15835,7 @@ and I think that is very natural because noweave always applies to the entire file. Normally, the filename part does not contain any dot. > And if you think about rule: ->=20 +> > notangle file.ext.pamphlet > file.ext notangle is completely different because it can either apply to @@ -25944,10 +15845,10 @@ this: notangle filename.pamphlet -R 'file.ext' > file.ext ->=20 +> > this _is_ alredy broken by many files (in 'src/hyper') when we > have ->=20 +> > file.pamphlet -> file.c > @@ -25955,10 +15856,10 @@ Is there a case like this? Maybe it should be written: notangle file.pamphlet -R 'file.c' > file.c -With <>=3D defined appropriately. -=20 +With <>= defined appropriately. + > or ->=20 +> > /-> file.h > file.pamphlet -| > \-> file.c @@ -25968,53 +15869,24 @@ In this case I think it is really notangle file.pamphlet -R 'file.h' > file.h notangle file.pamphlet -R 'file.c' > file.c -=20 + Right? > I agree that you proposal is logical, but it is also clumsy: > .pamphlet extension is already pretty long and sticking on it > another extension will give very long files names. ->=20 +> I think the only convincing reason that Ralf gave for his convention for noweave was interaction with point-and-click in dvi. But this could be achieved through a different patch to srcltx. No? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZs7-00039y-FT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:56:47 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZs5-00039g-AT - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:56:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZs3-00038r-SN - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:56:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhZs3-00038o-QJ - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:56:43 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhZs3-0003sC-MP - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:56:44 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA7MudTC014747 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:56:39 +0100 Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:56:40 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list > | And I _suggested_ to change the current rule. @@ -26039,44 +15911,11 @@ both seen by TeX. Rather change the document script. - -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZwt-0005RO-Kq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:01:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZws-0005R8-BR - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:01:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhZwq-0005Qr-Oq - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:01:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhZwq-0005Qm-If - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:01:40 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhZwq-0004ot-3K - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:01:40 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32BB40F3D; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:01:37 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA7MuuqE001468; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:56:59 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA7MuuC6001467; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:56:56 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 07 Nov 2006 23:56:51 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45510BE1.7050709@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 07 Nov 2006 23:56:51 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -26103,42 +15942,11 @@ portability. In some places, it seems quite stringent in its demand names), and yet it cavalierly overlooks them (e.g. not all filesystems can handle filenames with more than on does in them). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gha27-0000wL-5S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:07:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gha24-0000s2-Er - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:07:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gha23-0000pw-8C - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:07:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gha23-0000pW-03 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:07:03 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gha22-0005W2-Iy - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:07:02 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5218640F45; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:07:00 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA7N2Jp4001512; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:02:21 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA7N2JdL001511; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:02:19 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 00:02:19 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 00:02:19 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -26194,38 +16002,11 @@ Yes, you're correct. I completely agree with that. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhaPZ-0006fl-S8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:31:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhaPY-0006fX-RX - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:31:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhaPK-0006dR-Ft - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:31:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhaPK-0006dO-9M - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:31:06 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhaPD-0007Pb-OI - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:31:05 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA7NUUTC015659 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:30:30 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:30:36 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list > I think the only convincing reason that Ralf gave for his > convention for noweave was interaction with point-and-click @@ -26258,46 +16039,15 @@ find . -name '*.*.pamphlet' Is there a plan to rename them all? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghal9-0006S6-Va - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:53:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghal8-0006R2-D9 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:53:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghal5-0006Qa-M8 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:53:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghal5-0006QO-GT - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:53:35 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghal5-0003GD-GQ - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:53:35 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id A497B67FD4; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 18:53:34 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 5070665A05; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 18:53:33 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 18:53:31 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccCvguVTMKSv6lqSZ6fKk/rFDXYOwAAJGXg From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On November 07, 2006 5:43 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: -> ...=20 -> One suggestion could be to have particular chunk names that=20 +> ... +> One suggestion could be to have particular chunk names that > say what are the "top-level" chunks and which are the > corresponding filenames for notangle. @@ -26316,7 +16066,7 @@ make script I think it is better to make it obvious how the dependency is satisfied e.g. file.c: filename.pamphlet - document --tangle=3D'file.c' filename.pamphlet + document --tangle='file.c' filename.pamphlet would extract the chunk -R 'file.c' as a file named 'file.c' from the file 'filename.pamphlet'. Or see Gaby's stanza @@ -26335,21 +16085,21 @@ programming. On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:02 PM Gaby wrote: > ... -> Bill Page wrote:=20 +> Bill Page wrote: > | Maybe it should be written: -> |=20 +> | > | notangle file.pamphlet -R 'file.c' > file.c ->=20 +> > Yes, that is was it is written: ->=20 +> > $(builddir)/%.c: $(srcdir)/%.pamphlet -> $(axiom_build_document) --tangle --output=3D$@ $< +> $(axiom_build_document) --tangle --output=$@ $< I think with the current 'document' script that would have to be: $(builddir)/%.c: $(srcdir)/%.pamphlet - $(axiom_build_document) --tangle=3D$@ --output=3D$@ $< + $(axiom_build_document) --tangle=$@ --output=$@ $< because by default the --tangle option in 'document' will extract the root chunk. @@ -26359,50 +16109,21 @@ chunk name instead of begin derived from the pamphlet name. Then one could wrote: $(builddir)/%.c: $(srcdir)/%.pamphlet - $(axiom_build_document) --tangle=3D$@ $< + $(axiom_build_document) --tangle=$@ $< I.e. patch 'document' like this: if [ -z $output ]; then -- output=3D`basename $file .pamphlet`; -+ output=3D$chunk; +- output=`basename $file .pamphlet`; ++ output=$chunk; fi -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhawP-0007I1-Tf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:05:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhawL-0007Dr-LU - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:05:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhawE-00075i-KB - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:05:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhawE-00075K-57 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:05:06 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghaw4-000608-Fh - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:04:57 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA804hTC016643 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:04:47 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:04:49 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list > | 3) axiom.bib.tex file contains 10 file names with unescaped underscores > | inside. @@ -26431,38 +16152,11 @@ also into hyperlinks. (I don't like underscores. They cause problems in many places.) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghb8T-0004JC-F8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:17:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghb8S-0004HB-Ih - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:17:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghb8Q-0004EH-P0 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:17:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghb8Q-0004E0-Kg - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:17:42 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghb8Q-0007kv-CH - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:17:42 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA80HeTC017016 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:17:40 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:17:46 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list > It is possible to use srcltx even if we don't keep the > *.pamphlet.* part if we assume that all .dvi files are @@ -26487,56 +16181,25 @@ replaces the .tex extension of \CurrentInput by .pamphlet. Maybe that would be a solution. But it doesn't solve the axiom.sty.tex problem. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbA9-0007Xs-0a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:19:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbA7-0007UE-Cn - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:19:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbA5-0007Pv-Lq - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:19:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhbA5-0007PY-Hb - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:19:25 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhbA4-0007wP-Ho - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:19:24 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 16DF3680CB; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:19:24 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 6B8AA67F1E; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:19:21 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:19:21 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccCxNM6kDS+N7zSQaO/v7m31ye3EQAA4MXQ From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex -Ralf,=20 +Ralf, On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:31 PM you wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > What speaks so much against just adding .tex? > Portability? Look at the output of ->=20 +> > cd build-improvements > find . -name '*.*.pamphlet' ->=20 +> > Is there a plan to rename them all? ->=20 +> Ugh! You are right. Despite Gaby's implication, I can not think of any file system in use today where we might want to run Axiom @@ -26560,43 +16223,14 @@ In the mean time, I think just renaming axiom.sty as Waldek suggested is not so confusing, given the discussion in the rest of this thread. Maybe instead of 'axiom-sty.pamphlet' something like 'axiom-latex.pamphlet' might be a better name with -<=3D and possibly other latex-related chunks collected +<= and possibly other latex-related chunks collected in a single pamphlet file. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbBU-0002HC-9b - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:20:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbBR-0002Bi-Az - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:20:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbBP-00028C-Rj - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:20:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhbBP-000281-LF - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:20:47 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhbBP-000836-Bn - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:20:47 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA80KcTC017130 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:20:38 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:20:44 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list On 11/07/2006 10:45 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -26613,38 +16247,11 @@ On 11/07/2006 10:45 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: Gaby, maybe the last sentence of mine was misleading. I meant: remove .pamphlet for notangle and add .tex for noweave. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbMO-0001ZY-Hw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:32:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbMN-0001Yc-8G - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:32:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbML-0001XC-VV - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:32:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhbML-0001Wy-Jq - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:32:05 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhbMK-0001f5-So - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:32:05 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA80W2TC017419 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:32:02 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:32:03 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list > However pamphlet files with multiple chunks interact badly with > the make dependency processing since changing or adding a single @@ -26672,72 +16279,41 @@ place of a particular file (which is hidden in a .pamphlet file with another name). In that sense pamphlet files would not fit me as a human. Maybe I should change ... ;-) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbTe-00055o-7y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:39:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbTa-0004yU-Bk - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:39:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhbTY-0004vl-0h - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:39:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhbTX-0004vT-Rn - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:39:31 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhbTX-0002uc-GZ - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:39:31 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 770A667F5D; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:39:30 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 0CE2167D4F; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:39:28 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:39:27 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccCyeDCzyEqGfShTA+J4FYTB8zUqgAAsXag From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:05 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: ->=20 +> > Waldek wrote: > ... -> > | 3) axiom.bib.tex file contains 10 file names with=20 +> > | 3) axiom.bib.tex file contains 10 file names with > > | unescaped underscores inside. > ... > Gaby wrote: > > For problem (3), I'm awaiting for input from others. ->=20 -> The drastic way... Remove axiom.bib.pamphlet (from which probably=20 +> +> The drastic way... Remove axiom.bib.pamphlet (from which probably > axiom.bib.tex was generated). That is not really a .bib file. It > is a collection of filenames. And I would rather see that the > translated documentation has hyperlinks instead of references to > a "bibliography" that consists of filenames. ->=20 -> If someone thinks that axiom.bib.pamphlet is a file in good=20 +> +> If someone thinks that axiom.bib.pamphlet is a file in good > LP style, I have not understood what LP means. I support Ralf's view. The axiom.bib.pamphlet file doesn't make any sense to me. ->=20 +> > Underscores would be no problem at all if filenames where > properly tagged. Note that there is a latex package called url > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/url.sty) which provides a \path > command. Together with hyperref one can turn that also into > hyperlinks. ->=20 +> I like this idea but I think it might need more thought. How do we want to present this large collection of Axiom documentation @@ -26745,54 +16321,22 @@ files to a user? How will they navigate? How will this interact, or will it interact with hyperdoc? Will they be searchable? What is better, dvi or pdf? Etc. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghbiw-0000lT-W7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:55:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghbiv-0000km-6Y - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:55:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghbit-0000k0-Hz - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:55:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghbit-0000jv-Ar - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:55:23 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghbit-0005bH-B8 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:55:23 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 3805B67F1E; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:55:22 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 5DFA267E18; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:55:20 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:55:19 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccCzVi0tqfj5QziSYqg/q/fnZW2PAAAc/tQ From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:32 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > I agree that LP suggests to think in terms of logical units for > humans, but on the other hand I am still a bit old-fashioned > (and maybe also human), since I would have hard times to look > in the file system for the place of a particular file (which is > hidden in a .pamphlet file with another name). In that sense -> pamphlet files would not fit me as a human.=20 +> pamphlet files would not fit me as a human. > Maybe I should change ... ;-) ->=20 +> :-) That is definitely not "new think". There are many places in the Axiom source where you already must do this, e.g. the @@ -26805,44 +16349,16 @@ think you would know enough to check the Makefile to see how this file is generated. But it might well be convenient if there was a nice wrapper for - grep '<>=3D' *.pamphlet + grep '<>=' *.pamphlet along the lines of what Martin Rubey wrote for the *.spad.pamphlet files. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghbm8-00023l-Ud - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:58:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghbm7-00022e-UA - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:58:43 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghbm4-0001y1-8b - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:58:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghbm3-0001xi-VA - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:58:40 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghbm3-00066Z-Tj - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:58:40 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA80wZTC018377 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:58:35 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:58:41 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list >> Underscores would be no problem at all if filenames where >> properly tagged. Note that there is a latex package called url @@ -26874,32 +16390,10 @@ after all. And before I invest time there I would rather like to know in advance what other peoples dreams are. So that I don't have to throw away my stuff in the end. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhcN8-0006lG-W6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:36:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhcN8-0006l8-37 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:36:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhcN6-0006kG-GW - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:36:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhcN6-0006k7-D3 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:36:56 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhcN6-0004G0-Bf - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:36:56 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhcM9-00024X-00 - for ; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 02:35:57 +0100 -To: list Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 02:35:57 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: PRECIOUS and Rosetta I wrote that there are three problem latexing build improvement @@ -26926,61 +16420,24 @@ hot topic but we should do something: apply the patch, skip noweb run on plain tex or add noweb filter to protect [[ combination (or maybe something else). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhcZH-0006WC-4Y - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:49:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhcZG-0006W7-Eu - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:49:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhcZG-0006Vr-0d - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:49:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhcZF-0006Vm-QZ - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:49:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1GhcZF-0008S1-Sj - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:49:30 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhcZ6-0008Nh-Ij - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:49:20 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id C1207680DD; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 20:49:19 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 1A87467FE1; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 20:49:17 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 +\start Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 20:49:15 -0500 -Thread-Topic: RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Thread-Index: AccCsyeuDwMgrFHXT0mSJweuVuYJngAI19Eg From: Bill Page -To: "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:24 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > I propose: rename capital Greek letters according to > Bill Page proposal. Adjust 'util.ht' to match (all other > hypertex pages should access Greek letters only via macros -> defined in 'util.ht'). =20 -> Next, remove 'ATX=3DB.bitmap', 'SEGBIND.ps' and 'segbind.ps'. ->=20 +> defined in 'util.ht'). +> Next, remove 'ATX=B.bitmap', 'SEGBIND.ps' and 'segbind.ps'. +> > Those changes should solve problems with duplicate filenames on > case insensitive filesystems. ->=20 +> > --- build-improvements.pp/src/hyper/pages/util.ht=09 > 2006-11-02 18:27:39.000000000 +0100 > +++ build-improvements/src/hyper/pages/util.ht=09 @@ -27011,7 +16468,7 @@ On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:24 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > +\newcommand{\Lambda}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/Lambda-cap.bitmap}} > \newcommand{\large}{} > \newcommand{\ldots}{...} -> \newcommand{\le}{<=3D} +> \newcommand{\le}{<=} > @@ -282,41 +282,41 @@ > \newcommand{\nabla}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/nabla.bitmap}} > \newcommand{\nu}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/nu.bitmap}} @@ -27061,7 +16518,7 @@ On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:24 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > +\newcommand{\Xi}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/Xi-cap.bitmap}} > \newcommand{\zeta}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/zeta.bitmap}} > \newcommand{\bs}{\\} -> =20 +> Great. I think this patch should go in as a priority since at this time Axiom developers on a MAC still can not use svn to get Axiom. @@ -27072,44 +16529,11 @@ latex files already but in this case they are also source files for hyperdoc. Would including these files as chunks in a pamphlet file present any technical problem to noweb? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghcqu-0000LP-SA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:07:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghcqs-0000IO-1R - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:07:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghcqq-0000Gv-Pb - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:07:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghcqq-0000Gc-EU - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:07:40 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghcqq-0002IW-1x - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:07:40 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA827MxX023496 - for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:07:30 -0500 -Received: (qmail 14900 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2006 02:07:22 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Waldek Hebisch; 8 Nov 2006 02:07:22 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA81vQP22261; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 20:57:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 20:57:26 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Bill Page - (Bill Page) Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Cc: list > But I almost hesitate to ask the following: Why aren't the files > in src/hyper/pages in pamphlet format? Well, ok, they do look like @@ -27119,50 +16543,21 @@ Cc: list I never got the time to convert them. They should be. --t - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghcw4-0006Gg-Cn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:13:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghcw2-0006EJ-N3 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:13:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghcw1-0006D8-Qq - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:13:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghcw1-0006D0-Nb - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:13:01 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghcw1-0003Ei-Hw - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:13:01 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id F320D6829E; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:12:56 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 491A1681D3; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:12:56 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: PRECIOUS and Rosetta Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:12:55 -0500 -Thread-Topic: PRECIOUS and Rosetta -Thread-Index: AccC1mb8YYq/tv0ySj6RuEAeOr37WQAA44kg From: Bill Page -To: "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: RE: PRECIOUS and Rosetta On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 8:36 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: ->=20 +> > The Latex error is that noweb garbles Rosetta.pamphlet and Latex > fails. I reported this prevoisly and Bill Page provided a patch: ->=20 +> > http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2006-10/msg00450.ht ml ->=20 +> > The patch I got is probably garbled by mail (in repo '\\' > combination appears at the end of lines, while in the patch it > is at begining next line), but otherwise it looks good. @@ -27171,12 +16566,12 @@ Here is a good copy of the patch http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/public/rosetta.patch -But invoke the right to change my opinion... ;)=20 +But invoke the right to change my opinion... ;) > I understand that it is still hot topic but we should do something: > apply the patch, skip noweb run on plain tex or add noweb filter to > protect [[ combination (or maybe something else). ->=20 +> Maybe "skip noweb run on plain tex" makes good sense if all files are processed by the 'document' command. Really I cannot think of any good @@ -27185,43 +16580,11 @@ probably it's name should just be changed to rosetta.tex and 'document' changed so that it does not preprocess files with noweave if the file already has a .tex extension. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdAW-0001pL-Gp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:28:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdAV-0001pG-0g - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:27:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdAS-0001p1-5o - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:27:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhdAS-0001oy-0j - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:27:56 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhdAR-000650-UX - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:27:56 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0498640F59; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:27:52 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA82NBR8005271; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:23:14 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA82NBEj005270; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:23:11 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:23:11 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:23:11 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -27284,43 +16647,11 @@ However, for header files, the rules look like this: this is when $chunk is specified. That is doable. We just have to check when it is not specified and use the other rule. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdDG-00041R-BI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:30:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdDF-00040r-By - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:30:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdDD-0003zF-H5 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:30:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhdDD-0003z0-CU - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:30:47 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhdDD-0006md-1U - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:30:47 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2511940E85; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:30:44 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA82Q3K3005275; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:26:05 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA82Q3ng005274; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:26:03 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:26:03 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4551171C.5070609@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:26:03 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -27342,42 +16673,11 @@ take it seriously. Given recent discussions, I would wait till the dust gets down. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdH8-0008NK-Ai - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:34:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdH4-0008J5-St - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:34:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdH2-0008GS-IK - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:34:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhdH2-0008G6-Cv - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:34:44 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhdH2-0007It-8n - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:34:44 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71A34F3C1; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:34:41 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA82U0rP005437; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:30:02 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA82U0nN005436; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:30:00 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:30:00 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:30:00 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -27394,43 +16694,11 @@ Use the move-if-change script. It is on the list of things to do for build-improvements. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdKX-0003k7-MI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:38:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdKV-0003iA-LF - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:38:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdKU-0003gr-5V - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:38:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhdKT-0003ge-Sv - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:38:17 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhdKT-0007Zu-PW - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:38:18 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC58540ED6; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:38:14 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA82XX54005463; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:33:36 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA82XXYB005462; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:33:33 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:33:33 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45512583.10003@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:33:33 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -27459,42 +16727,11 @@ intermediate files, it becomes very very messy. Fire! --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdNy-0006mO-1B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:41:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdNv-0006lY-UO - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:41:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdNv-0006lC-8Y - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:41:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhdNv-0006l4-3E - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:41:51 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhdNu-00082c-Up - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:41:51 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC13741085; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:41:47 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA82b71J005467; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:37:09 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA82b7rJ005466; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:37:07 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:37:06 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:37:06 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -27543,43 +16780,11 @@ We still need to links to references sections in other files. PDF has my vote. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdQY-0008Qn-Pz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:44:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdQX-0008Qi-6M - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:44:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdQV-0008QJ-NF - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:44:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhdQV-0008QG-Jq - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:44:31 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhdQV-0008MJ-KQ - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:44:31 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E21D40F05; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:44:28 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA82dlQi005561; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:39:50 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA82dl2M005560; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:39:47 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:39:47 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45512BC1.7030605@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:39:47 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -27622,42 +16827,11 @@ I really disliuke duplicating documentation for no good reasons. But, I don't know what ALLPROSE looks like in practice (sorry, I cannot do everything...) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdTi-0000Ub-BU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:47:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdTh-0000UO-2o - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:47:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhdTf-0000UC-Kq - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:47:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhdTf-0000U9-Hw - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:47:47 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhdTf-00009i-HH - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:47:47 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7949641085; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:47:44 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA82h3rX005568; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:43:05 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA82h3mk005567; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:43:03 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:43:03 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: PRECIOUS and Rosetta -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 03:43:03 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -27677,65 +16851,34 @@ I would like to see your candidates for removal before I say anything. I don't see a blank rule for removing "most .PRECIOUS" rules yet. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GheHT-00069J-4R - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:39:15 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GheHR-00068t-C0 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:39:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GheHQ-00068h-F6 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:39:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GheHQ-00068e-C2 - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:39:12 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GheHQ-0007F7-AY - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:39:12 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 93133683EF; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 22:39:11 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 2D324683EE; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 22:39:09 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 22:39:09 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccC33hT+y/XxGdSTzSCmOn8yp3abAAA0a2w From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex ->=20 +> > | On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:05 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: -> | >=20 +> | > > | > Waldek wrote: > | > ... -> | > > | 3) axiom.bib.tex file contains 10 file names with=20 +> | > > | 3) axiom.bib.tex file contains 10 file names with > | > > | unescaped underscores inside. > | > ... > | > Gaby wrote: > | > > For problem (3), I'm awaiting for input from others. -> | >=20 +> | > > | > The drastic way... Remove axiom.bib.pamphlet > | ... > Bill Page wrote: -> |=20 +> | > | I support Ralf's view. The axiom.bib.pamphlet file doesn't make > | any sense to me. On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 9:37 PM Gaby wrote: ->=20 +> > So, what concretly do you propose as course of action? ->=20 +> I propose that we remove axiom.bib.pamphlet. @@ -27754,7 +16897,7 @@ place and format for bibliographic references. Citations of pamphlet files which are local are generally by the name. For example, [[asq.c.pamphlet]] would be cited using -[[\cite{asq.c}]].=20 +[[\cite{asq.c}]]. -------- @@ -27772,48 +16915,15 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/book--main--1/Endpaper3 which contains hyperlinks in the graphics. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GheiJ-0008Lz-TJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:06:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GheiH-0008LO-Bm - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:06:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GheiF-0008LB-Ur - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:06:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GheiF-0008L8-MI - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:06:55 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GheiF-0003Y6-9d - for list; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:06:55 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id F3C6168336; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:06:54 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 0806566FD2; - Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:06:54 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:06:55 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccC0Qo4mXB9uBqyT2uB/HehRmDdoAAFvgng From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke, - Bill Page -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:59 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: -> ...=20 -> I have a simple suggestion. Forget the Axiom user for a=20 +> ... +> I have a simple suggestion. Forget the Axiom user for a > moment. First we need to have good documentation for developers. > A user probably cares most about the "algebra" subdirectory. > I don't care too much about interaction with hyperdoc and such. @@ -27824,20 +16934,20 @@ Or rather hyperdoc should be replaced with a web browser interface that would integrate with the dvi/pdf files including hyperlinks between them. ->=20 +> > My dream would be to have for each bigger unit one document > (which is .dvi, .pdf or .html -- you have already seen in > ALLPROSE that it is not so hard to generate different output > formats). By "bigger unit" I approximately mean the subdirectories > in src. Such a document would be similar to the ALLPROSE stuff -- > hyperlinks here and there. ->=20 -> The question is whether other Axiom developers would like it=20 +> +> The question is whether other Axiom developers would like it > or whether there are other suggestions we could agree upon. It's > a lot of effort after all. And before I invest time there I would > rather like to know in advance what other peoples dreams are. So > that I don't have to throw away my stuff in the end. ->=20 +> Ralf, I appreciate that you have put a lot of work into ALLPROSE but when I look at it I see a tool that seems more suitable to @@ -27855,71 +16965,35 @@ but includes "cloning" which actually creates a lattice and makes it possible to create different "views" of the same information without duplicating content. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghfkm-00037O-AM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:13:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghfkk-00037A-2u - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:13:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghfki-00036t-H4 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:13:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghfki-00036p-Aa - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:13:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) - (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghfki-0005Ry-5g - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:13:32 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghfkh-0006kY-Ey - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:13:31 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id E3B7068D1D; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:13:30 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 93D1468D1C; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:13:29 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:13:36 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccC33hT+y/XxGdSTzSCmOn8yp3abAAA0a2wAARDOGA= From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 10:39 PM I wrote: > ... ->=20 +> > I propose that we remove axiom.bib.pamphlet. ->=20 +> > There is no axiom.bib.tex as far as I can tell - only axiom.bib. ->=20 +> > But the idea of including citations to pamphlet files seems ill- > conceived to me. There is no documentation in the axiom.bib.pamphlet > file itself but in src/doc/Makefile.pamphlet we can read: ->=20 +> > -------- ->=20 +> > \section{The bibtex stanza} > Axiom pamphlet files have citations. We collect all of the > pamphlet file citations into this one file so we have a standard > place and format for bibliographic references. ->=20 +> > Citations of pamphlet files which are local are generally by the > name. For example, [[asq.c.pamphlet]] would be cited using -> [[\cite{asq.c}]].=20 ->=20 +> [[\cite{asq.c}]]. +> > -------- I see also \cite mentioned here in the FAQ file: @@ -27930,7 +17004,7 @@ FAQ 11: How do I add a new pamphlet file ... You must also modify src/doc/axiom.bib.pamphlet to include -the file. Axiom uses bibtex to cross-reference the various=20 +the file. Axiom uses bibtex to cross-reference the various pamphlet files. The normal method of citing a file involves just using the name, for example \cite{asq.c} will build a citation to the ./src/etc/asq.c.pamphlet file. @@ -27942,54 +17016,21 @@ You must include the following two lines in your pamphlet file: --------- ->=20 +> > But as far as I can tell this method is not actually used in any > other pamphlet file. Looking at the contents of axiom.bib I see > many non-unique entries. Further, I don't see how this would work > in the case where there are multiple root code chunks in a single > pamphlet file (e.g. algebra/*.spad.pamphlet). ->=20 +> Am I wrong about this? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiM2-0008LN-5i - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:00:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiM0-0008Kq-6N - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:00:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiLy-0008Jg-B7 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:00:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhiLy-0008Jd-7O - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:00:10 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhiLx-0000Sa-G3 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:00:09 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhiLs-00024Z-56; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:00:04 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhiLs-0000n0-3r; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:00:04 +0100 +Date: 08 Nov 2006 09:00:03 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45512BC1.7030605@hemmecke.de> - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Nov 2006 09:00:03 +0100 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -28074,46 +17115,11 @@ trees := structures(l)$BinTree ## enjoy. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -Martin - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiSJ-0004HU-Sq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:06:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiSI-0004G7-DR - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:06:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiSG-0004ED-OA - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:06:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhiSF-0004Dp-Tl - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:06:40 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhiSF-0001i5-Bk - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:06:39 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhiS9-0002ov-3J; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:06:33 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhiS9-00031X-0x; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:06:33 +0100 +Date: 08 Nov 2006 09:06:31 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4551171C.5070609@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Nov 2006 09:06:31 +0100 -Cc: list Dear all, @@ -28135,41 +17141,11 @@ press C-c C-c - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiWo-0002Em-Ta - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:11:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiWn-0002Bm-Iy - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:11:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhiWn-0002AL-0m - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:11:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhiWm-0002AB-UF - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:11:20 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhiWm-00028E-Kp - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:11:20 -0500 -Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhiWl-0003R0-FV; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:11:19 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhiWl-0001E7-C2; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:11:19 +0100 +Date: 08 Nov 2006 09:11:17 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4551171C.5070609@hemmecke.de> <9qmz72qs54.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Nov 2006 09:11:17 +0100 -Cc: list I pressed C-c C-c in gnus, not in the pamphlet... Sorry, continuation below @@ -28214,40 +17190,11 @@ I fail to see a reason why simply adding the tex is a bad idea. But very often in this Makefile business I only know half of the story, so please don't be angry with me. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhjPO-0000pT-Kp - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:07:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhjPN-0000pM-Or - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:07:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhjPM-0000p1-Q1 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:07:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhjPM-0000or-Kp - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:07:44 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhjPM-0001sR-2H - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:07:44 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA897dTC031012 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 10:07:40 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:07:50 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Gabriel Dos Reis, list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: On 11/08/2006 03:39 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -28307,39 +17254,11 @@ are organised so that the build process gets simple. Also note that all newer dvi viewers allow to search inside .dvi files. You can forget about grep. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjc1-0005wm-OG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:20:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjc0-0005vU-PH - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:20:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjbz-0005uV-Iy - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:20:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghjbz-0005uD-Bc - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:20:47 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghjby-0003Bc-06 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:20:46 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA89KaTC031284 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 10:20:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:20:48 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list >> | > The drastic way... Remove axiom.bib.pamphlet @@ -28360,42 +17279,11 @@ database of references on the internet and one only has to know a unique key into that database to extract all relevant information needed for a printed version. But up to then .bib files are of some use. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjmi-00044k-74 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:31:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjmg-00042q-Uo - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:31:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjmf-0003zD-4q - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:31:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghjme-0003z3-CV - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:31:48 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghjme-0005vM-5r - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:31:48 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Ghjmc-0003ui-NP; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:31:46 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Ghjmc-0006I8-L2; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:31:46 +0100 +Date: 08 Nov 2006 10:31:44 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4551A170.9000206@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Nov 2006 10:31:44 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -28416,40 +17304,11 @@ In fact, in my community this is standard now. But I guess you know that? -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhjpN-0007ll-Hs - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:34:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhjpL-0007lW-LC - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:34:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhjpI-0007l6-Nm - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:34:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhjpI-0007l3-KK - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:34:32 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.65] (helo=elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhjpI-00066i-M9 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:34:32 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=be4mkzikzWbrxmf5fHIbR2M3006uZPmRR1OjYYFFnsH3fFFnCsvFaW2hOwLhZrFx; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.164.159.23] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1GhjpH-0001cE-L3 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:34:31 -0500 +Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:45:29 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: list -Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:45:29 -0800 - charset="utf-8" -Subject: Re: [Axiom Developer FAQ] (new) from Axiom source - code distribution +Subject: Re: [Axiom Developer FAQ] (new) from Axiom source code distribution On Tue November 7 2006 23:05, billpage wrote: > Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomDeveloperFAQ/diff @@ -28467,37 +17326,11 @@ On Tue November 7 2006 23:05, billpage wrote: > On my ia64 debian-linux workstation, apt-get refuses to install xlibs-dev. I think I have gotten around this by installing libxt-dev -Richard - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjvm-0000nU-Q4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:41:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjvk-0000mn-Oo - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:41:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghjvj-0000mO-N3 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:41:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghjvj-0000mF-F6 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:41:11 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.70] (helo=elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghjvj-0006l1-AF - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:41:11 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=L72FuuoCT4v2TMYPCO+kO7k417GiL12nYpBlO9Ylx8txSVyVHmQQTdN2oXupRo6a; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.164.159.23] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1GhjvT-0006Au-Aa - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:40:55 -0500 + +\start +Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:51:48 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: list -Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 01:51:48 -0800 - charset="us-ascii" Subject: GCL loader option I'm attempting to build the build-improvements branch on linux-ia64 @@ -28510,38 +17343,11 @@ choice into the build process. This seems to be coming from configure for gcl-2.6.8pre -Richard - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghk7y-0002zA-R6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:53:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghk7v-0002vb-Mu - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:53:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghk7t-0002ul-JY - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:53:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghk7s-0002uU-Qm - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:53:44 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghk7s-0008K6-MR - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:53:45 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA89rZTC032143 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 10:53:35 +0100 +\start Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:53:47 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list > I think perhaps the pamplet files should interact with hyperdoc. Or > rather hyperdoc should be replaced with a web browser interface that @@ -28612,49 +17418,11 @@ one unit, it also has influence on another "view" where this unit is used. So my current position is a bit hesitant although I like this "multiple-views" thing. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkNx-0003nK-DJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkNu-0003kh-BI - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkNp-0003g4-Fa - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhkNo-0003fZ-0n - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:12 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhkNn-0002u6-4Z - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:11 -0500 -Received: (qmail 30492 invoked by uid 7797); 8 Nov 2006 10:07:04 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.132209 secs); 08 Nov 2006 10:07:04 -0000 - list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 8 Nov 2006 10:07:04 -0000 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:09:42 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - - protocol="application/pgp-signature"; - boundary="------------enig62A955B8E64DAC57EBE821EB" -Cc: list - -This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---------------enig62A955B8E64DAC57EBE821EB Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -28664,57 +17432,17 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > not using it for an evolving system -- which by definition is buggy. > By the minutes you have to deal also with the generated and > intermediate files, it becomes very very messy. ->=20 +> > Fire! I've used the "-L" notangle option to great effect when writing C code with noweb. Even gdb can find the proper source lines. ---=20 -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - ---------------enig62A955B8E64DAC57EBE821EB - ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- -Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) -Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org - -iD8DBQFFUaztO8aX8Tqx8vgRAr7VAJ9pqCQEPc8Ya7fC/B8bpkAlWKQdEACgqwZV -iBsE7JO2C2gVCZdYLWplXIY= -=jh7C ------END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ---------------enig62A955B8E64DAC57EBE821EB-- - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkOR-000484-Po - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkON-00046O-TO - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkOL-00044W-Iq - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhkOK-00043z-AL - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:44 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhkOI-0003BC-G2 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:44 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhkNC-0004dh-00; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:09:34 +0100 -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -To: Bill Page Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:09:34 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 > On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:24 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > @@ -28835,42 +17563,11 @@ of those files would require adding logical markup. OTOH I am not sure if we want to maintain NAG manuals at all -- if we switch to a different numerical library we need different manuals. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghkb9-0002yC-9j - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:23:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghkb7-0002vq-Ds - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:23:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghkb5-0002u0-HG - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:23:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghkb5-0002ta-8Y - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:23:55 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghkb4-0005mo-RI - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:23:55 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA8ANdTC000509 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:23:39 +0100 +\start Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:23:50 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - - <4551ACE6.7040508@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: list On 11/08/2006 11:09 AM, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: > Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -28897,34 +17594,11 @@ according to filetypes is probably ok, there are not too many types around. But I would like to see no exceptions to general rules on a per-file basis. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkeH-0007Da-Vx - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:27:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkeF-0007Bl-OA - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:27:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhkeC-00077r-Tx - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:27:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhkeC-00077a-OO - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:27:08 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhkeC-0006iy-LC - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:27:08 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Ghkd6-0006TT-00; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:26:00 +0100 -Subject: Re: PRECIOUS and Rosetta -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:25:59 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: PRECIOUS and Rosetta > Waldek Hebisch writes: > @@ -28954,60 +17628,24 @@ ATM most Makfiles (and 'config/setup-dep.mk) contain rules of the sort: I think that blank .PRECIOUS is may be justified _only_ for self-modifying Makefiles. All other files need strong justification. - - - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghkf8-0008F4-9u - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:28:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghkf6-0008Bs-9w - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:28:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghkf5-0008AS-CU - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:28:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghkf4-0008A8-UX - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:28:02 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghkf4-0006qL-Qp - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:28:03 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 22F6868ED5; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 05:28:02 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 42D0D68E61; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 05:28:01 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: GCL loader option +\start Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 05:28:00 -0500 -Thread-Topic: GCL loader option -Thread-Index: AccDGg1B4QAXUz/WSByxvcm6+A/EngAACMGg From: Bill Page -To: "Richard Harke" Richard Harke -Cc: list +To: Richard Harke +Subject: RE: GCL loader option On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:52 AM Richard Harke wrote: ->=20 +> > I'm attempting to build the build-improvements branch on linux-ia64 > build stops with message -> Exactly one loader option must be chosen: dlopen=3Dyes statsysbfd=3Dno -> dynsysbfd=3Dno locbfd=3Dyes custreloc=3Dno ->=20 -> I have only a vague idea of what these mean and no idea how=20 +> Exactly one loader option must be chosen: dlopen=yes statsysbfd=no +> dynsysbfd=no locbfd=yes custreloc=no +> +> I have only a vague idea of what these mean and no idea how > to make the choice into the build process. ->=20 +> > This seems to be coming from configure for gcl-2.6.8pre ->=20 +> Apparently the build-improvments ./configure script does not find bfd.h and libbfd on your system so it chooses to try to build gcl @@ -29020,10 +17658,10 @@ options to use with gcl. I suggest: $ tar xzf ~/build-improvements/zips/gcl-2.6.8pre.tgz $ cd gcl-2.6.8pre -$ ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local --disable-dlopen = +$ ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --disable-dlopen = --disable-statsysbfd \ ---enable-locbfd --enable-vssize=3D65536*2 --enable-maxpage=3D256*1024 \ +--enable-locbfd --enable-vssize=65536*2 --enable-maxpage=256*1024 \ --disable-x --disable-xgcl --disable-tkconfig $ make $ make install @@ -29031,78 +17669,46 @@ $ make install If that succeeds, then continue with build-improvements using $ cd ~/build-improvments -$ ./configure --prefix=3D/usr/local --with-gcl +$ ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-gcl $ make -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlDB-0004vq-7H - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:03:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlD9-0004u6-HK - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:03:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlD8-0004tn-Of - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:03:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhlD8-0004tk-Ky - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:03:14 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhlD8-0004YD-42 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:03:14 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id AC10B68F71; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 06:03:13 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 7E52668F06; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 06:03:12 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 06:03:10 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccDDX6pz68m4TpVSPubSi4uQQo7CAAAMcvQ From: Bill Page To: Martin Rubey -Cc: list +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 3:11 AM Martin Rubey wrote: ->=20 -> I pressed C-c C-c in gnus, not in the pamphlet... Sorry,=20 +> +> I pressed C-c C-c in gnus, not in the pamphlet... Sorry, > continuation below > What is 'gnus'? -=20 + > Martin Rubey writes: ->=20 -> >=20 +> +> > > > Ralf Hemmecke writes: -> >=20 +> > > > > What speaks so much against just adding .tex? -> >=20 -> > I'd also speak in *favour* of simply adding .tex. It makes=20 -> > life easier also in other places:=20 -> >=20 -> > ### The following is only for those who use auctex in emacs=20 +> > +> > I'd also speak in *favour* of simply adding .tex. It makes +> > life easier also in other places: +> > +> > ### The following is only for those who use auctex in emacs > > for latexing!) ### -> >=20 -> > I use auctex and added a dead simple "document" command.=20 +> > +> > I use auctex and added a dead simple "document" command. > > Thus I can visit a pamphlet file (for example, by clicking in > > HyperDoc on INT.spad) -> >=20 +> > > > make some changes -> >=20 +> > > > press -> >=20 +> > > > C-c C-c ->=20 +> > enter document What does your 'document' command do? @@ -29110,16 +17716,16 @@ What does your 'document' command do? I presume that it runs noweave and latex to create the dvi file? ->=20 +> > press C-c C-c again ->=20 +> > auctex proposes "View". But of course, the parameter is wrong, > it is ->=20 +> > name.pamphlet.dvi ->=20 +> > instead of ->=20 +> > name.dvi > @@ -29136,14 +17742,14 @@ Perhaps you can somehow configure emacs so that .pamphlet is similar to .tex as an extension and should be ignored when proposing the parameter for tex-view? -=20 + > -------------------------------------------------------------- ->=20 +> > I fail to see a reason why simply adding the tex is a bad idea. ->=20 -> But very often in this Makefile business I only know half of=20 +> +> But very often in this Makefile business I only know half of > the story, so please don't be angry with me. ->=20 +> I do not think "anger" would be appropriate here... :-) @@ -29176,42 +17782,11 @@ I would give the following reasons why it is bad: Ok I admit that reasons 2) and 3) are not very strong reasons... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlPB-00087W-4f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:15:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlP9-000873-Qj - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:15:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlP8-00086Q-Bp - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:15:39 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhlP8-00086D-9A - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:15:38 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhlP6-0006TS-UY - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:15:37 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhlOz-00087p-WA; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:15:30 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhlOz-0001X5-RQ; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:15:29 +0100 +Date: 08 Nov 2006 12:15:25 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Nov 2006 12:15:25 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -29227,39 +17802,11 @@ the mailer/newsreader I use... Thanks for your explanations, I think I understand now. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlhX-0004W5-Ra - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:34:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlhV-0004UD-PV - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:34:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhlhT-0004Rb-6O - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:34:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhlhS-0004R1-PX - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:34:34 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhlhP-0000Db-IM - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:34:32 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA8BTITC002166 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:29:18 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:29:29 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list > 1) All other programs that I can think of that process an > input file with a given extension, generate output files @@ -29324,33 +17871,11 @@ to axiom-sty.pamphlet. So the only reason I see not to just add ".tex" would be portability. But which are systems we want to build Axiom on that cannot handle two dots? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghm0A-000298-EU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:53:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghm08-00028E-A5 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:53:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghm06-00026V-Pr - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:53:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghm06-00026M-N0 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:53:50 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghm06-0004zu-Ng - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:53:50 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Ghlz2-0003ya-00; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:52:44 +0100 -Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:52:44 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex > Bill Page writes: > @@ -29380,69 +17905,36 @@ modification time would stay the same. But I do not know of a make like tool which offers such model (possibly because normal filesystems do not provide a way to store update time). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhmAA-00020D-B6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:04:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhmA7-0001yp-Om - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:04:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhmA5-0001xy-HR - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:04:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhmA5-0001xl-8A - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:04:09 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhmA4-000776-J5 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:04:08 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 22FEE68FE4; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 07:04:08 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 9BF4B69015; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 07:04:03 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex +\start Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 07:04:00 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccDKeIee3teLkABQKqsWNZfdqfzEAAAVcKQ From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Oh, so much email over such a simple thing ... :-( On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:29 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > ... -> Bill Page wrote:=20 +> Bill Page wrote: > > It would be very strange to see -> >=20 +> > > > latex name.tex --> name.tex.dvi > > dvipdfm name.tex.dvi --> name.tex.dvi.pdf -> >=20 +> > > > wouldn't it? ->=20 +> > Of course. ->=20 +> > > 2) File names with more than one . are may not be portable to > > non-linux file systems - although the only ones I can think of > > are old and unlikely candidates for Axiom. ->=20 -> That is an argument. But perhaps for all those of us who are not so=20 +> +> That is an argument. But perhaps for all those of us who are not so > familiar with non-Linux, it would be more helpful to say which systems -> these are. The only system I know would be DOS. But then forget about=20 +> these are. The only system I know would be DOS. But then forget about > the .pamphlet extension. You only have 3 characters. ;-) ->=20 +> > Anything else that cannot handle 2 dots or long filenames? > @@ -29453,19 +17945,19 @@ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660 and still cause some trouble in rare cases with very long file names. -=20 + > > 3) Files with unnecessarily long names are more awkward to use. ->=20 +> > > Ok I admit that reasons 2) and 3) are not very strong reasons... ->=20 +> > Not even 1) is a reason. Why do you believe one can say ->=20 +> > make dvi ->=20 +> > in ALLPROSE and then say ->=20 +> > xdvi myalps.dvi ->=20 +> > to get the whole documentation although I have the convention > notangle removes .nw > noweave adds .tex (result is .nw.tex) @@ -29486,7 +17978,7 @@ No? > There will never be generated anything else than one dvi file. > And I don't understand, why people care so much about the names -> of intermediate files. You can remove .nw.tex files and no harm=20 +> of intermediate files. You can remove .nw.tex files and no harm > is done. If make would already remove them, one would not even > see what strange things are done under the hat. @@ -29496,7 +17988,7 @@ more obvious, so we do care what goes on under the hat, right? Using a file name for dvi files that retains the original .pamphlet extension is not so obvious to me. -> But that naming scheme simplifies the understanding of the=20 +> But that naming scheme simplifies the understanding of the > system (only in my opinion, of course). One doesn't have to > rename axiom.sty.pamphlet to axiom-sty.pamphlet. @@ -29504,48 +17996,19 @@ In my opinion it is only an accident that axiom.sty.pamphlet has this name and contains only one root chunk. In general this is not the case. ->=20 -> So the only reason I see not to just add ".tex" would be portability.=20 -> But which are systems we want to build Axiom on that cannot=20 +> +> So the only reason I see not to just add ".tex" would be portability. +> But which are systems we want to build Axiom on that cannot > handle two dots? ->=20 +> I would guess: none. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn0p-0003i3-0O - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn0n-0003hs-To - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn0m-0003hU-JX - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghn0m-0003hQ-9f - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:36 -0500 -Received: from [68.230.240.34] (helo=eastrmmtao05.cox.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghn0m-0006YT-B2 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:36 -0500 -Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao05.cox.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.06.03 201-2131-130-104-20060516) with ESMTP - id <20061108125839.CTFE18065.eastrmmtao05.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net>; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 07:58:39 -0500 -Received: from [70.161.176.93] ([70.161.176.93]) - by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp - id kCxz1V00421H6rq0000000; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:57:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:37 -0500 From: Cliff Yapp To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4551A92B.7030109@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke wrote: >> I think perhaps the pamplet files should interact with hyperdoc. Or @@ -29648,46 +18111,11 @@ the whole source code pretty much at the outset, and then fit in the pieces - correct? That's a mean job even without adding documentation, but I suppose it would be a benefit in any case. -Cheers, -CY - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn0q-0003ik-9A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn0o-0003hy-NR - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn0m-0003ha-IR - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghn0m-0003hP-99 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:36 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghn0m-0006YU-BU - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:58:36 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BEE4F3EB; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:58:27 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8CroNX013217; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:53:53 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8CroRD013216; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:53:50 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 08 Nov 2006 13:53:50 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45512BC1.7030605@hemmecke.de> - - <9qmz725px8.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 13:53:50 +0100 -Cc: list Martin Rubey writes: @@ -29701,45 +18129,11 @@ Martin Rubey writes: I don't have Axiom support on the machine I usually work with. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn4N-0005OQ-HU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:02:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn4M-0005NK-0K - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:02:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn4H-0005Js-MP - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:02:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghn4G-0005JA-UG - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:02:13 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghn4G-0007Bl-FL - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:02:12 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA82410C3; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:02:11 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8CvR0k013222; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:57:29 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8CvRwc013221; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:57:27 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 13:57:27 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45512BC1.7030605@hemmecke.de> - - <45519E66.4030902@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 13:57:27 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -29762,42 +18156,11 @@ It does; thanks! OK, thanks. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn83-0008LP-ER - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:06:07 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn7z-0008Hx-In - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:06:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghn7r-00088o-7E - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:05:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghn7p-00088L-QY - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:05:54 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghn7p-0008OD-5h - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:05:53 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCAA4F44D; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:05:44 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8D18aC013360; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:01:10 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8D18lR013359; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:01:08 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:01:08 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:01:08 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -29809,42 +18172,11 @@ Bill Page writes: That makes sense. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnBl-0003rY-AF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:09:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnBi-0003no-Lm - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:09:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnBf-0003jY-RN - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:09:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhnBf-0003j7-Lo - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:09:51 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhnBe-0000hd-Rl - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:09:51 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6384F4110F; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:09:49 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8D55uc013364; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:05:08 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8D558b013363; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:05:05 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:05:05 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:05:05 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -29859,39 +18191,11 @@ Bill Page writes: News and mail reader: That is what I've been for ages now, to read bpth newsgroups and mails, and therefore write codes too :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnC9-0004T3-Hk - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:10:21 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnC7-0004RY-Ui - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:10:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnC6-0004Op-Be - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:10:19 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhnC6-0004OR-7c - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:10:18 -0500 -Received: from [68.230.240.33] (helo=eastrmmtao06.cox.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhnC5-0000mC-U4 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:10:18 -0500 -Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao06.cox.net - (InterMail vM.6.01.06.03 201-2131-130-104-20060516) with ESMTP - id <20061108131021.ONWM4133.eastrmmtao06.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net>; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 08:10:21 -0500 -Received: from [70.161.176.93] ([70.161.176.93]) - by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp - id kD9h1V00W21H6rq0000000; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:09:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:10:20 -0500 From: Cliff Yapp To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4551A170.9000206@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke wrote: >>> | > The drastic way... Remove axiom.bib.pamphlet @@ -29936,44 +18240,11 @@ explain our conventions, plus the bib file itself. I doubt any purpose would be served by adding in the bib entries as "source code" in a document, but of course I may be wrong. -Cheers, -CY - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnIY-0005iz-6T - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:16:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnIW-0005fW-CR - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:16:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnIU-0005bX-OM - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:16:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhnIU-0005bP-I7 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:16:54 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhnIU-0001xm-Dt - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:16:54 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A814F3A4; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:16:45 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8DC9mi013527; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:12:11 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8DC92h013526; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:12:09 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:12:09 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4551BF99.7060100@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:12:09 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -30009,45 +18280,11 @@ latexs it. The problem can be papered over in many different way: (3) extract to a different directory (4) find a btter solution. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnJ3-0006G5-08 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:17:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnJ1-0006Ff-N8 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:17:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnIz-0006FH-8x - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:17:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhnIy-0006F7-V5 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:17:25 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhnIy-00022x-MF - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:17:24 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhnIx-00062y-Eb; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 14:17:23 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GhnIx-0005k9-Ax; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 14:17:23 +0100 +Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:17:20 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45512BC1.7030605@hemmecke.de> - - <9qmz725px8.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:17:20 +0100 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -30076,45 +18313,11 @@ Although I guess that you know that anyway. BTW, is it planned to have a debian package with support for Aldor built-in? - - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnPL-0000T3-QP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:23:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnPK-0000RR-6U - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:23:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnPI-0000P0-7b - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:23:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhnPH-0000On-Rr - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:23:55 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhnPH-000422-MZ - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:23:55 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170C9410B6; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:23:53 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8DJAx0013728; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:19:12 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8DJAg8013727; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:19:10 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:19:10 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:19:10 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -30142,33 +18345,11 @@ The axiom.sty.pamphlet is inded very special. Its purpose and its functionality are not the same like any others. We should not forget that. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghnn7-0006De-PH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:48:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghnn6-0006CM-BP - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:48:32 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghnn4-0006Bb-3N - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:48:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghnn3-0006BY-VU - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:48:30 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghnn3-0007sN-Ut - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:48:30 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Ghnlm-0002wz-00; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 14:47:10 +0100 -Subject: Re: GCL loader option -To: Richard Harke Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:47:10 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Richard Harke +Subject: Re: GCL loader option Richard Harke wrote: > I'm attempting to build the build-improvements branch on linux-ia64 @@ -30186,36 +18367,11 @@ It seems that gcl on ia64 can only use dlopen. Axiom tries to force gcl to use bdf library (which is better solution when it works). So you should probably build gcl separately with default settings. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnpL-0007WW-2V - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:50:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnpI-0007VD-4l - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:50:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhnpG-0007UJ-Ek - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:50:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhnpG-0007UD-6b - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:50:46 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhnpE-00089W-QQ - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:50:45 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhnoF-0002yq-00; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 14:49:43 +0100 -Subject: re: [Axiom Developer FAQ] (new) from Axiom - source code distribution -To: Richard Harke +\start Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:49:43 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Richard Harke +Subject: re: [Axiom Developer FAQ] (new) from Axiom source code distribution Richard Harke wrote: > On Tue November 7 2006 23:05, billpage wrote: @@ -30237,44 +18393,11 @@ Richard Harke wrote: debian testing has Xlib.h in libx11-dev. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghoia-0002NO-1h - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:47:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhoiX-0002Lx-T3 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:47:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhoiV-0002KF-VK - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:47:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhoiV-0002K4-Q7 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:47:51 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhoiV-0000H2-18 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:47:51 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id ED6AC64F76; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 09:47:49 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 19CC2683BB; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 09:47:49 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex +\start Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 09:47:47 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccDOSieBfiko3+XTZO4MfUx0H+qDQACRtog From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 8:19 AM Gaby wrote: > ... @@ -30282,11 +18405,11 @@ On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 8:19 AM Gaby wrote: > | In my opinion it is only an accident that axiom.sty.pamphlet > | has this name and contains only one root chunk. In general this > | is not the case. ->=20 +> > The axiom.sty.pamphlet is inded very special. Its purpose and > its functionality are not the same like any others. We should -> not forget that.=20 ->=20 +> not forget that. +> I don't understand. In what way is it special? To me it looks just like any other "header" file and could easily be a chunk @@ -30315,53 +18438,16 @@ strange and unexpected. I cannot find this behaviour documented anywhere on the web. So it looks like a bug in tex to me. Changing axiom.sty.pamphlet to axiom-sty.pamphlet and added a -chunk named <>=3D still seems like the right thing to +chunk named <>= still seems like the right thing to do to avoid this "bug". I one sentence explanation in the pamphlet file should be enough documentation for such a simple change that is otherwise consistent with the rest of the Axiom source code. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GholV-0003XK-L6 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:50:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GholU-0003Wk-At - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:50:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GholT-0003VO-5m - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:50:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GholS-0003VA-G3 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:50:54 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GholR-000160-W7 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:50:54 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16A04F3D1; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:50:42 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8Ek721015629; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:46:09 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8Ek77A015628; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:46:07 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 15:46:06 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45512BC1.7030605@hemmecke.de> - - <9qmz725px8.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> - - <9qwt6613j3.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 15:46:06 +0100 -Cc: list Martin Rubey writes: @@ -30399,42 +18485,11 @@ Yes. I don't know. I've decided not to spend too much time on Aldor as far as it is free only in promises. I'm concentratig on Axiom and SPAD. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghosq-0000uz-Jm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:58:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghoso-0000qp-RG - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:58:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghoso-0000pi-Aa - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:58:30 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghoso-0000pV-2T - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:58:30 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghoso-0003Gz-3c - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:58:30 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF75C4F3E2; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:58:19 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8Eriw1015970; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:53:46 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8EriKM015969; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:53:44 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 15:53:44 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: GCL loader option -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 15:53:44 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -30462,42 +18517,11 @@ about. It was put there a very long time ago. But since then GCL's configure's gotten smarter and needs not be told about that. Those are bugs that should be corrected. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghoz7-0006YD-HR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:05:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghoz5-0006WA-QI - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:04:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghoz4-0006UA-8I - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:04:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghoz3-0006Ts-VH - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:04:58 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghoz3-0004mC-1a - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:04:57 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFF440E31; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 16:04:55 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8F0BIo016008; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 16:00:13 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8F0Bs8016007; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 16:00:11 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 16:00:11 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 16:00:11 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -30559,48 +18583,17 @@ I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm explaning, *why* from my perspective, that exception to the general rule is acceptable -- even when I don't find it perfect or don't like it. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghpjm-0003cr-Mj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:53:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghpjk-0003ZP-HP - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:53:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghpji-0003WA-LJ - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:53:11 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghpji-0003Vh-9p - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:53:10 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghpji-00077u-Cb - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:53:10 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 4E777694C5; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 10:53:09 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 1882C69384; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 10:53:07 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 10:53:07 -0500 -Thread-Topic: porting axiom -Thread-Index: AccDRoJQ8dXjg3QHSfSJFbZqeqxDAQABt5bg From: Bill Page -To: -Cc: +To: list Subject: porting axiom Axiom Developers, Well, here's our next target for Axiom build-improvements: -http://www.flypentop.com/view/page.home/home?s=3Dalgebra +http://www.flypentop.com/view/page.home/home?s=algebra Maybe we will have to seriously consider cross-compilation afterall. :-) @@ -30610,40 +18603,11 @@ Bill Page. PS. I want one for Christmas! - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhpwC-0005tV-Vj - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:06:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhpwA-0005si-OE - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:06:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghpw9-0005sN-Od - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:06:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghpw9-0005sF-Jj - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:06:01 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghpw9-0001tA-4B - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:06:01 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69848410F1; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:05:59 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8G1FmN017804; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:01:18 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8G1FSq017803; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:01:15 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 08 Nov 2006 17:01:15 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: porting axiom -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 08 Nov 2006 17:01:15 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -30655,42 +18619,11 @@ Bill Page writes: He? You went into great details explaining to skeptical Gaby that was not a good idea ;-/ --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhsCu-0003zr-Lq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:31:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhsCs-0003x5-LQ - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:31:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhsCo-0003ox-8Q - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:31:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhsCo-0003oj-2Q - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:31:22 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhrdD-0001TD-1f - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:54:35 -0500 -Received: (qmail 22008 invoked by uid 7797); 8 Nov 2006 17:51:22 -0000 -Received: from 136.145.54.123 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(136.145.54.123):. - Processed in 0.055485 secs); 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Wed, 08 Nov 2006 15:58:51 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 56AF769674; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:58:50 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id DB1D16987F; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:58:48 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: [ alexandria-SupportRequests-1551244 ] Latex on - Compile Farm +\start Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:58:47 -0500 -Thread-Topic: [ alexandria-SupportRequests-1551244 ] Latex - on Compile Farm -Thread-Index: AccDdhaZ/GcCqJ94QCOgGfMnUAz4DQAAbS7w From: Bill Page To: Tim Daly -Cc: list +Subject: RE: [ alexandria-SupportRequests-1551244 ] Latex on Compile Farm On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 3:30 PM Tim Daly wrote: ->=20 +> > Latex should now be on the compile farm machines --t ->=20 +> > ... > > Comment By: Robert Liesenfeld (xunil) > Date: 2006-11-08 20:26 > > Message: -> Logged In: YES=20 -> user_id=3D1054 ->=20 +> Logged In: YES +> user_id=1054 +> > This should be installed on most of the compile farm > machines (having trouble getting it installed on a couple). > Please let me know if there's a specific machine you need @@ -30945,44 +18798,13 @@ bash: latex: command not found ppc-osx3:~/osx $ ls /usr/local ppc-osx3:~/osx $ echo $PATH /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin -ppc-osx3:~/osx $ exit=20 - ----------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - +ppc-osx3:~/osx $ exit \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghv8E-00068F-WF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:38:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghv8C-00066f-SX - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:38:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghv8C-00065r-4k - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:38:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghv8C-00065a-0X - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:38:48 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghv8B-0004PP-RN - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:38:48 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA8LccwU022753 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 22:38:38 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:38:42 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list On 11/08/2006 04:00 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Bill Page writes: @@ -31115,38 +18937,11 @@ are actually out anyway if we stick to .pamphlet. Why would you accept even a single exception if you can have something without it? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhvkS-00081j-L4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:18:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhvkQ-00080o-AN - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:18:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhvkO-0007zR-U2 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:18:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhvkO-0007zO-P3 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:18:16 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhvkO-0004BT-DK - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:18:16 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA8MIEwU023722 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 23:18:14 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:18:23 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list >>> 3) Files with unnecessarily long names are more awkward to use. >>> Ok I admit that reasons 2) and 3) are not very strong reasons... @@ -31273,39 +19068,11 @@ I hope, this time my English is understandable. I agree. Other opinions concerning filename portability? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghvnv-0002GP-E4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:21:55 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghvnt-0002Fo-Iq - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:21:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghvnr-0002DQ-0Q - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:21:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghvnq-0002DG-Q1 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:21:50 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghvnq-0004pe-JU - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:21:50 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA8MLbwU023832 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 23:21:41 +0100 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:21:46 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list > Yes. This problem has many roots. Part of it is that > build-improvements extracts the TeX file in the same directory as it @@ -31319,52 +19086,21 @@ Cc: list axiom.sty.dvi then it does not matter whether axiom.sty is visible or not. \usepackage will choose the wrong file. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwMa-0007Zh-Qy - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:57:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwMY-0007Yo-Nu - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:57:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwMX-0007Xy-KB - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:57:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhwMX-0007Xt-EI - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:57:41 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhwMX-0004BI-F5 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:57:41 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 30768681B2; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:57:38 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id AC72067B1B; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:57:36 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:57:32 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccDfkm7qIf4jG0dQnO4xd3glG3XtAAAaEaw From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:39 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: ->...=20 +>... > Most of you opt now for renaming axiom.sty.pamphlet to something > else (like axiom-sty.pamphlet). I rather like to see the general > rule that the generation should go (Rule 2) : ->=20 +> > noweave file.pamphlet > file.pamphlet.tex ->=20 +> > no matter how many dots are in "file". You should not forget to mention how the .tex name (which is only @@ -31381,19 +19117,19 @@ The rule used in the current Axiom make files is also simple noweave file.pamphlet > file.tex latex file.tex --> file.dvi - =20 + no matter how many dots are in "file". ->=20 -> > Bill Page wrote:=20 +> +> > Bill Page wrote: > > | Changing axiom.sty.pamphlet to axiom-sty.pamphlet and added a -> > | chunk named <>=3D still seems like the right thing +> > | chunk named <>= still seems like the right thing > > | to do to avoid this "bug". I one sentence explanation in the > > | pamphlet file should be enough documentation for such a simple > > | change that is otherwise consistent with the rest of the Axiom > > | source code. > > -> Gsby wrote:=20 +> Gsby wrote: > > I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm explaining, *why* from my > > perspective, that exception to the general rule is acceptable > > -- even when I don't find it perfect or don't like it. @@ -31415,17 +19151,17 @@ to try to make these names the same or at least similar. But the application of Rule 3 is not always straightforward. If there is more than one program or style file in the pamphlet file there will be multiple code chunk names. -=20 -> Why would you accept even a single exception if you can have=20 + +> Why would you accept even a single exception if you can have > something without it? ->=20 +> There is *no* exception to the rule whether we choose Rule 1 or Rule 2. If we try to apply *both* Rule 1 and Rule 3, without renaming axiom.sty.pamphlet to axiom-sty.pamphlet, then in this single -case of a file continuing a code chunk named <>=3D the +case of a file continuing a code chunk named <>= the result is a conflict with the behavior of latex. If we apply *both* Rule 2 and Rule 3, then yes this single @@ -31448,45 +19184,11 @@ the end I will agree to either of these choices. I just think that Rule 1 with a small compromise to Rule 3 is the most simple and easy approach. Obviously both methods will solve the problem. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwkY-0008Ps-NX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:22:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwkX-0008OY-Sp - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:22:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwkX-0008My-5z - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:22:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhwkW-0008Md-TN - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:22:28 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhwkW-0002Fr-QI - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:22:28 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB3E4F3D4; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:22:13 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8NHg4E027575; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:17:44 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8NHg82027574; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:17:42 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Nov 2006 00:17:41 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - - <45524E62.20601@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 00:17:41 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -31499,39 +19201,11 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: Sorry, I don't follow. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghwp3-0005fs-5R - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:27:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghwp2-0005er-36 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:27:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghwp0-0005dA-FD - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:27:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghwp0-0005d0-7z - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:27:06 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghwp0-0003Mk-0p - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:27:06 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA8NQtwU025619 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:26:56 +0100 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:27:05 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list On 11/09/2006 12:17 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -31548,57 +19222,26 @@ On 11/09/2006 12:17 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: Can I quote a sentence of yours? "Be more specific." ;-) What was unclear in the TeX example I gave? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwuH-0001X1-I3 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:32:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwuF-0001Wm-NA - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:32:31 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwuB-0001W9-Ol - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:32:31 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhwuB-0001W6-HX - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:32:27 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhwuB-00047B-6A - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:32:27 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 56CC06A33F; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 18:32:26 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id C7E796965B; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 18:32:24 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 18:32:19 -0500 -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccDg9TwF90b0W0uSEWoHYwsryD1HwAB6yng From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 5:18 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > Wow. I must be doing something wrong. I already question whether -> I should use German to get my idea through. English doesn't=20 +> I should use German to get my idea through. English doesn't > seem to work. ;-) -> ...=20 +> ... > There is only *one* dvi file that will be produced and *not* one > for every .nw file. So "xdvi axiom.sty.pamphlet.dvi" is absolutely -> no argument. One should not even look at something like=20 -> axiom.sty.pamphlet.tex, because that is generated and could=20 +> no argument. One should not even look at something like +> axiom.sty.pamphlet.tex, because that is generated and could > look like a big mess --- if you have really looked at files that > come out of noweave you will know that theses files are not for > humans even if they are .tex files. ->=20 +> Ok, thank you! I finally understand what you are saying. :-) @@ -31617,11 +19260,11 @@ to make it clear that we will not be directly apply latex to this file? > So now the trick why I don't have myalps.nw.dvi. ->=20 +> > The top-level project file is called myalps.tex.nw. Applying my > rules gives myalps.tex and myalps.tex.nw.tex. The first one is > just a wrapper that in shortened form looks like ->=20 +> > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage{allprose} > \begin{document} @@ -31634,7 +19277,7 @@ file? > \hypertarget{sec:Contents}{}\tableofcontents > \input{\projectname.tex.nw} > \end{document} ->=20 +> > and that will be latex'ed. Ok, so this is a file that we do not currently have in any of the @@ -31647,10 +19290,10 @@ each src directory. > Ok. -=20 ->=20 + +> > There is another point that speaks against the current practice -> of translating each .pamphlet file into one .dvi, namely "literate=20 +> of translating each .pamphlet file into one .dvi, namely "literate > programming". Ideas don't just live in one file. That completely > misses the point that there are relations from one part of the > system to another. For example, there should not be 5 Makefile.dvi @@ -31659,8 +19302,8 @@ Ok. I agree. ->=20 -> It would better to describe the interpreter as a whole rather than=20 +> +> It would better to describe the interpreter as a whole rather than > producing a .dvi file for each of the 187 files in src/interp. > Tim's approach (if I understood that correctly) is to make *one* > huge .pamphlet file. My approach is to have as many pamphlet file @@ -31670,27 +19313,27 @@ I agree. Yes, I like your approach much more than Tim's book volumes even though the end result for the user is nearly the same. Nice. ->=20 +> > Eventually, we perhaps want just one document (a web-site, for > example) that describe all of axiom (including the source code). > For a web site the size doesn't matter. But still, there should > be some backlinks from the human-readable format (.dvi) to the > actual .pamphlets. ->=20 +> Ok. -> ...=20 +> ... > > Using a file name for dvi files that retains the original > > .pamphlet extension is not so obvious to me. ->=20 +> > I hope, this time my English is understandable. > Yes certainly. I don't think the problem is your English. It just takes time to say the critical things so that someone else can appreciate a beautiful idea. -=20 + > ... But now I understand, I do feel like I have to take a step back @@ -31703,43 +19346,12 @@ worth it. Thanks again for your patience. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwwO-00021L-4v - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:34:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwwL-00021D-Uw - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:34:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhwwK-000211-IJ - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:34:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhwwK-00020y-BV - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:34:40 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhwwK-0004UT-7v - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:34:40 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA05B4F3D7; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:34:24 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8NTr5Z027920; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:29:55 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8NTrwq027919; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:29:53 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Nov 2006 00:29:53 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 00:29:53 +0100 -Cc: list, Ralf Hemmecke +Cc: Ralf Hemmecke Bill Page writes: @@ -31801,80 +19413,21 @@ logical unit, that also cleanly translates to automation. For the record, I think that the renaming is my favoured option. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghwyn-0002S9-Ko - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:37:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghwyl-0002Rh-Ci - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:37:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghwyj-0002RV-RG - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:37:10 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghwyj-0002RS-LH - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:37:09 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghwyj-0004sj-Ge - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:37:09 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA8Nb6wU025869 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:37:06 +0100 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:37:15 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list > Thanks again for your patience. Thank you for listening. ;-) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghx3I-00042f-VC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:41:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghx3G-00042O-Oj - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:41:50 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghx3G-00041x-2D - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:41:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghx3F-00041s-Qo - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:41:49 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghx3F-0005b4-QU - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:41:49 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32A84F3C6; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:41:34 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8Nb3fL028217; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:37:05 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8Nb3Dd028216; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:37:03 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Nov 2006 00:37:02 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <455257AF.8080702@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 00:37:02 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -31930,45 +19483,11 @@ systematically appending .tex. Yes. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghx4o-0004jd-Th - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:43:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghx4m-0004iu-Np - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:43:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghx4l-0004iC-9b - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:43:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghx4k-0004ht-Cc - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:43:22 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghx4k-0005n3-Bc - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:43:22 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D8240E31; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:43:19 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA8NcaWt028532; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:38:38 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA8NcaJj028531; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:38:36 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Nov 2006 00:38:35 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <4551BF99.7060100@hemmecke.de> - - <4552587A.708@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 00:38:35 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -31990,38 +19509,11 @@ but that is what silver does. No. It depends on where you call LaTeX from and the value of TEXINPUTS. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxC1-00063p-IQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:50:53 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxBz-0005zp-Fy - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:50:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxBy-0005xg-E4 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:50:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhxBy-0005xK-6y - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:50:50 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhxBy-0006ur-3x - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:50:50 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA8NolwU026257 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:50:48 +0100 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:50:57 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -Cc: list Ah, one last remark. I don't yet have a complete understanding of LEO, but, in fact, what I am suggesting now should not prevent us from @@ -32037,39 +19529,11 @@ And thank you, Bill. I really should change "appending .tex" to what implications that has to my srcltx setup, but with a little TeX-hacking that should work. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxRI-0004pS-TF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:06:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxRH-0004nJ-1P - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:06:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxRF-0004ln-2b - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:06:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhxRE-0004la-TD - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:06:36 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GhxRE-0000pF-5R - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:06:36 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA906QwU026690 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:06:30 +0100 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 01:06:35 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list On 11/09/2006 12:37 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -32089,60 +19553,29 @@ Of course. Are you so sure? Where should I branch from for that experiment? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxiC-0008W8-GS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:24:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxiA-0008VY-KM - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:24:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghxi7-0008U5-8c - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:24:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghxi6-0008Te-S8 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:24:02 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghxi5-0003vG-Ga - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:24:02 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id CA3F66976F; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:24:00 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 54501694AF; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:23:59 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:23:59 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccDjW+e/YKiysMHRIWvtMjIh8gzlwAAOabg From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:27 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: ->=20 +> > On 11/09/2006 12:17 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > > Ralf Hemmecke writes: -> >=20 +> > > > [...] -> >=20 +> > > > | Since when you compile axiom.sty.tex also axiom.sty must be in -> > | the path \usepackage will always take axiom.sty.tex instead.=20 +> > | the path \usepackage will always take axiom.sty.tex instead. > > | So the option of moving the files to another place does not > > | help since they must be visible at the same time. -> >=20 +> > > > Sorry, I don't follow. ->=20 +> > Can I quote a sentence of yours? "Be more specific." ;-) > What was unclear in the TeX example I gave? ->=20 +> Ralf, @@ -32181,21 +19614,21 @@ test Now create 'axiom.sty.tex' file in the current directory %%%BEGIN axiom.sty.tex -\message{=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I am axiom.sty.tex =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D} +\message{======= I am axiom.sty.tex =======} %%%END axiom.sty.tex Plus two 'axiom.sty' files - one in the current directory %%%BEGIN axiom.sty -\message{=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I am just axiom.sty = -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D} +\message{======= I am just axiom.sty = +=======} %%%END axiom.sty and one in the intermediate directory %%%BEGIN intermediate/axiom.sty -\message{=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I am intermediate/axiom.sty = -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D} +\message{======= I am intermediate/axiom.sty = +=======} %%%END intermediate/axiom.sty Remember also that we still have the axiom.sty file in the share @@ -32224,7 +19657,7 @@ kish, ukrainian, nohyphenation, loaded. Document Class: book 2004/02/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/bk10.clo)) (./axiom.sty.tex -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I am axiom.sty.tex =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D) = +======= I am axiom.sty.tex =======) = (./axiom.sty.aux) [1] (./axiom.sty.aux) ) Output written on axiom.sty.dvi (1 page, 216 bytes). @@ -32257,7 +19690,7 @@ kish, ukrainian, nohyphenation, loaded. Document Class: book 2004/02/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/bk10.clo)) (./axiom.sty -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I am just axiom.sty =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D) = +======= I am just axiom.sty =======) = (./axiom.sty.aux) [1] (./axiom.sty.aux) ) Output written on axiom.sty.dvi (1 page, 216 bytes). @@ -32303,64 +19736,31 @@ Summary: One way to solve this stupid problem is to extract the .tex file to an intermediate directory different from the current directory when we run latex. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxpJ-0003i4-PB - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:31:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxpH-0003dZ-Fv - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:31:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhxpG-0003bk-PG - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:31:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhxpG-0003bV-Jd - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:31:26 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhxpG-0005rO-8X - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:31:26 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 805F86A3E7; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:31:25 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 50BD46A3CB; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:31:24 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:31:24 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Thread-Topic: build-improvements and latex -Thread-Index: AccDlS0kL/CQI/w+TU+2Lwdeqza3fQAAGHqw From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: build-improvements and latex On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 7:07 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > On 11/09/2006 12:37 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > > Ralf Hemmecke writes: ->=20 -> > | There is only *one* dvi file that will be produced and=20 +> +> > | There is only *one* dvi file that will be produced and > > | *not* one for every .nw file. -> >=20 +> > > > Ah, but that is a fundamental distinction between the respective > > states of Axiom and your peoject. ->=20 +> > Of course. ->=20 +> > > | So "xdvi axiom.sty.pamphlet.dvi" is absolutely no argument. ->=20 +> > > Unfortunately, for Axiom, that is going to be an argument for > > the short and mi-term. ->=20 +> > Are you so sure? Where should I branch from for that experiment? ->=20 +> Yes a new branch! I strongly encourage you to do that. :-) @@ -32373,44 +19773,11 @@ really does make things simpler and easier to understand. Gaby, what do you think about branching from build-improvements? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghy6m-0007BL-1x - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:49:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghy6j-0007BA-Ug - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:49:29 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghy6i-0007Ay-A9 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:49:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghy6i-0007Av-51 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:49:28 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghy6i-0008Jh-5d - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:49:28 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4324A4F3C3; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:49:26 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA90ifCQ029534; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:44:43 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA90ifZM029533; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:44:41 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Nov 2006 01:44:41 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 01:44:41 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -32439,43 +19806,11 @@ Bill Page writes: Yes, exactly. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghy9N-0008Sz-Jo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:52:13 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghy9L-0008Rr-DX - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:52:11 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Ghy9I-0008Qs-P8 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:52:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghy9I-0008Qg-15 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:52:08 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ghy9I-0000Hz-47 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:52:08 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DF34F399; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:52:06 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA90lL7m029557; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:47:23 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA90lLqg029556; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:47:21 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Nov 2006 01:47:21 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - <45526D61.8030904@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 01:47:21 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -32488,42 +19823,11 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: We should appoint Bill as Axiom Speaker :-) I'm semi serious :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhyF6-0006pu-78 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:58:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhyF5-0006om-8Z - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:58:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhyF3-0006lg-6G - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:58:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhyF2-0006l4-Ni - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:58:04 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhyF2-0001Rp-Ks - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:58:04 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9E84F3B8; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:58:02 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA90rIgq029723; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:53:20 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA90rIYK029722; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:53:18 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Nov 2006 01:53:17 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 01:53:17 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -32553,76 +19857,21 @@ at any time. Given recent discussions, I would very much appreciate Tim shime in. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhyTB-0000ms-Mf - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:12:41 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhyTA-0000lt-RH - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:12:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhyT9-0000kN-Ae - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:12:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhyT9-0000kE-7z - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:12:39 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.26] (helo=mx-7.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhyT7-0003zy-PG - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:12:39 -0500 -Received: from pop-1.zoominternet.net (mua-1.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.44]) - by mx-7.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kA91CTtv026883 - for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 20:12:31 -0500 -Received: (qmail 26514 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2006 01:12:29 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-1.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Bill Page; 9 Nov 2006 01:12:29 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kA912WC23908; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 20:02:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 20:02:32 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Gabriel Dos Reis - Gabriel Dos Reis on 09 Nov 2006 01:53:17 +0100) Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list > Given recent discussions, I would very much appreciate Tim shime in. I have no opinion. -Tim - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzCz-0000xO-4o - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:00:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzCw-0000vS-BT - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:59:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzCu-0000t0-Aa - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:59:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhzCu-0000sm-32 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:59:56 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhzCu-000315-4Y - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:59:56 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhzBt-0005T0-00; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 02:58:53 +0100 -Subject: Re: axiom for trigonometric functions again... -To: Francois Maltey Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 02:58:53 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Francois Maltey +Subject: Re: axiom for trigonometric functions again... > Hi Waldek, > @@ -32648,43 +19897,10 @@ which handles arbitrary many variables). I think you need your own package -- rischNormalize may help you write it. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzTp-0005UW-RQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:17:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzTo-0005ST-Dg - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:17:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzTm-0005Q4-Py - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:17:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhzTm-0005Pp-Ll - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:17:22 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhzTm-0005QA-FO - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:17:22 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id CF2B768156; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 21:17:21 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id AD42E65AE6; - Wed, 8 Nov 2006 21:17:18 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) +\start Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 21:17:14 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Thread-Topic: LANL NetworkX and algebra dependency graph -Thread-Index: AccDRoJQ8dXjg3QHSfSJFbZqeqxDAQABt5bgABUkdaA= From: Bill Page -To: -Cc: +To: list Subject: LANL NetworkX and algebra dependency graph Axiom Developers; @@ -32752,34 +19968,11 @@ If anyone else is interested in discussing the development and use of a graph theory package for Axiom, I would be very glad to hear from you. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzVd-0007h2-S4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:19:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzVc-0007gS-BF - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:19:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GhzVa-0007gG-VV - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:19:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhzVa-0007gC-Mw - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:19:14 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhzVa-0005aZ-JV - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:19:14 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GhzUb-0008WH-00; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 03:18:13 +0100 -Subject: Re: Bug? -To: Ralf Hemmecke Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 03:18:13 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: axiom-dev +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: Bug? > Does somebody know what happens here? > @@ -32811,44 +20004,11 @@ Type: Record(coef: List Integer,poly: List SparseUnivariatePolynomial Fraction I (I did not check if this is correct, but looks sensible). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi02J-0005h9-7Z - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:53:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi02I-0005gf-0V - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:53:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi02G-0005gN-JD - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:53:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gi02G-0005gE-DT - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:53:00 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.104] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gi02G-0001Eb-G3 - for list; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:53:00 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8D840E22; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 03:52:57 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA92mDg9031259; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 03:48:15 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA92mDTb031258; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 03:48:13 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 09 Nov 2006 03:48:12 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Bill Page Subject: Re: LANL NetworkX and algebra dependency graph -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 03:48:12 +0100 -Cc: list Bill Page writes: @@ -32881,39 +20041,11 @@ Discrete Mathematics", by Sriram Pemmaraju and Steven Skiena, to get an idea of existing work in the area of symbolic computations. I'm not done with it yet. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi2Re-0004DB-GF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:27:22 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi2Rd-0004C3-Dn - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:27:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi2Rb-0004Am-II - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:27:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gi2Rb-0004Ai-FB - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:27:19 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gi2Rb-0007sH-8L - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:27:19 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA95RBwU005983 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 06:27:12 +0100 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 06:27:22 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list > | I think what Gaby is suggesting is that aaa.tex would be extracted > | to some directory other than the current directory, e.g. @@ -32926,39 +20058,11 @@ avoid to rename axiom.sty.pamphlet no matter what naming scheme we agree upon. The only problem that remains is srcltx. It works as I have it now and I have to investigate how to twist that. But I already have an idea. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi2kG-0001Dd-MH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:46:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi2kE-0001AZ-6z - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:46:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi2kB-00018y-JL - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:46:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gi2kB-00018v-Am - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:46:31 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gi2kB-0001uZ-6D - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:46:31 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA95kRwU006581 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 06:46:28 +0100 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 06:46:39 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: build-improvements and latex - -Cc: list On 11/09/2006 01:53 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Bill Page writes: @@ -33002,42 +20106,11 @@ something about autoconf if I branch from build-improvements. It seems that I am going to have some sleepless nights coming. ;-) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi9u8-0001KP-5w - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:25:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi9u5-0001I8-Kt - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:25:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gi9u2-0001F3-DE - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:25:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gi9u2-0001Em-2y - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:25:10 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gi9u1-00028H-Ui - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:25:10 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gi9tr-0006En-Ec; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 14:24:59 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gi9tr-0008WQ-CB; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 14:24:59 +0100 +Date: 09 Nov 2006 14:24:52 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: LANL NetworkX and algebra dependency graph - -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 09 Nov 2006 14:24:52 +0100 -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis writes: @@ -33053,37 +20126,11 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis writes: I did some thinking about a graph theory package. If anybody is interested, I can write up what I believe after November 19. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiAkw-0006M3-Ml - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:19:50 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiAku-0006LF-VZ - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:19:49 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiAko-0006I8-U8 - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:19:48 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiAko-0006Hq-BE - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:19:42 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.108] (helo=mail288.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GiAko-0005yz-70 - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:19:42 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail288.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA9EJIZC031013; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 09:19:33 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Martin Rubey'" Martin Rubey -Subject: RE: LANL NetworkX and algebra dependency graph Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 09:19:05 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: RE: LANL NetworkX and algebra dependency graph On November 9, 2006 8:25 AM Martin Rubey wrote: > @@ -33116,41 +20163,11 @@ graph theory before November 19. :-) Is humour based on English ambiguity too obvious? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiBK4-0007in-T2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:56:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiBK3-0007gt-Bf - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:56:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiBK1-0007eI-Ht - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:56:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiBK1-0007dd-7G - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:56:05 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GiBK0-00045z-N1 - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:56:05 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA9EtrwU021359 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 15:56:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:56:10 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: LANL NetworkX and algebra dependency graph -Cc: list >> I did some thinking about a graph theory package. If anybody >> is interested, I can write up what I believe after November @@ -33164,41 +20181,11 @@ Cc: list No. I think that Martin meant that he will write something up today if someone is interested. I am interested. ;-) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiBkT-0001KS-UL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:23:25 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiBkS-0001Io-Ih - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:23:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiBkR-0001Ic-3g - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:23:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiBkQ-0001IZ-Sx - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:23:22 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GiBkQ-0001FP-I6 - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:23:22 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GiBkK-0004Uq-Q3; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:23:16 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GiBkK-0004LQ-LE; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:23:16 +0100 -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: Graph theory -From: Martin Rubey Date: 09 Nov 2006 16:23:13 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: Graph theory I'll write something up as soon as possible. But this won't be before November~19, since I'm under pressure until then. @@ -33212,38 +20199,10 @@ have thought only about Categories, not implementations. But I didn't get very far anyway. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiG80-0005Hv-KV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:04:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiG7y-0005HU-Ih - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:03:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiG7w-0005HH-7e - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:03:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiG7w-0005HE-2o - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:03:56 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.66] (helo=elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiG7v-0003hk-KM - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:03:55 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=QjuTz9Eww3L8U1NRvkFHqhmZHRG4R8b0vQftA+sFKTFLIyjBIvGMTWCO4tlZQfle; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.164.159.23] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1GiG7u-00035N-QS - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:03:55 -0500 +Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:14:55 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: list -Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:14:55 -0800 - charset="us-ascii" Subject: build-improvements on ia64 I built gcl manually per suggestion. Based on suggestions @@ -33292,36 +20251,11 @@ I have been doing a make clean between attempts but I think some file times don't reflect this. I tried make dist-clean but didn't work. What is the best way to reset? -Richard - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiGoY-0000r0-08 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:47:58 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiGoV-0000qZ-T5 - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:47:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiGoU-0000qF-GC - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:47:54 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiGoU-0000q7-9A - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:47:54 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.62] (helo=mail242.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GiGoT-0001rI-NA - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:47:54 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail242.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kA9KlGs8031909; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 15:47:41 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Richard Harke'" Richard Harke -Subject: RE: build-improvements on ia64 +\start Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 15:47:00 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Richard Harke +Subject: RE: build-improvements on ia64 On November 9, 2006 3:15 PM Richard Harke wrote: > @@ -33438,41 +20372,11 @@ configure command again: $ rm -rf * $ ../axiom.improvements/configure --with-gcl -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiHBg-0007Bc-6v - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:11:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiHBf-0007BX-0g - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:11:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiHBd-0007BA-IW - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:11:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiHBd-0007B7-DR - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:11:49 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GiHBd-0004Uq-2y - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:11:49 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kA9LBjwU031648 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 22:11:45 +0100 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:12:04 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: build-improvements on ia64 -Cc: list > I recommend that you do an "out of source" build. This means > that Axiom is built in a different directory then where the @@ -33505,43 +20409,11 @@ Cc: list Maybe that should go to the wiki. BuildAxiom perhaps? (That page seems to be out of date somehow.) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiHRS-0007uX-PQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:28:10 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiHRQ-0007qd-77 - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:28:08 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiHRO-0007nr-7g - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:28:07 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiHRN-0007nU-Vo - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:28:06 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.104] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiHRN-0006Q6-T2 - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:28:06 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2763A4F3D1; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 22:27:52 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kA9LNG7t021981; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 22:23:19 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kA9LNG6C021980; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 22:23:16 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 09 Nov 2006 22:23:16 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: build-improvements on ia64 - <455399A4.8000801@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 09 Nov 2006 22:23:16 +0100 -Cc: list Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -33579,42 +20451,11 @@ should be very few). I very much appreciate the number of testings, interest and feddback going into the build-improvements. That pressure helps keep me up :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiKcR-0001LO-Q9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:51:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiKcQ-0001LD-TX - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:51:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiKcP-0001Kz-8D - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:51:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiKcP-0001Kw-42 - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:51:41 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiKcP-0003Z5-6j - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:51:41 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5FF40F3D; - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 01:51:37 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAA0ko6w027213; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 01:46:53 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAA0koFG027212; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 01:46:50 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 10 Nov 2006 01:46:50 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Nov 2006 01:46:50 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -33639,49 +20480,12 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: hthits already includes . Is there any reason why you would include it a second time? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLKe-0006ZJ-5L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:37:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLKc-0006Z0-BQ - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:37:22 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLKa-0006Yg-St - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:37:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiLKa-0006Yd-Ma - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:37:20 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiLKa-0001w5-Jv - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:37:20 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF051C5621; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:37:18 -0600 (CST) -Received: from tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) - by localhost (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) - with ESMTP id 09859-01; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:37:15 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (smtp.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-5-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC96DC5630; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:37:15 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548DB46DE05; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:37:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:37:11 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: @@ -33741,7 +20545,7 @@ src/hyper/ (searchPage): Update. src/graph/viewman/ -2006-11-09 Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +2006-11-09 Humberto Zuazaga * viewman.c.pamphlet (main): Use SIGHLD on MAC OS X too. @@ -33966,43 +20770,12 @@ src/graph/viewman/ squirt(pgname, strlen(pgname)); - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLUM-0002Ws-QV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:47:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLUK-0002Ud-UX - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:47:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLUJ-0002SZ-LQ - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:47:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiLUJ-0002SJ-GL - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:47:23 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-1-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiLUJ-0003Z2-EK - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:47:23 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-1-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA47CD9D - for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:47:33 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-1-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BF9C3C4; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:47:31 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8594746DE05; - Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:47:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:47:17 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: @@ -34015,34 +20788,11 @@ Camm -- Did you had a chance to look into this? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLm8-0006PJ-1f - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:05:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLm5-0006Nq-NM - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:05:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLm4-0006MQ-2q - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:05:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiLm3-0006MJ-Qc - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:05:43 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiLm3-0005W3-CV - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:05:43 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GiLkr-0001Ce-00; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:04:29 +0100 -Subject: Re: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:04:29 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list - +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: viewman and hyper on Mac OS X > Waldek Hebisch writes: > @@ -34071,50 +20821,12 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: Just overlooked that is already included... --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLpq-0000VR-Ae - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:09:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLpo-0000Qv-5z - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:09:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiLpm-0000Lc-2E - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:09:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiLpl-0000LM-UC - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:09:33 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GiLpl-00069k-HC - for list; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:09:33 -0500 -Received: (qmail 3484 invoked by uid 7797); 10 Nov 2006 02:06:28 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.465841 secs); 10 Nov 2006 02:06:28 -0000 - Camm Maguire, list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.116?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 10 Nov 2006 02:06:27 -0000 +\start Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:09:12 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> - -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: @@ -34139,37 +20851,10 @@ fails with the permission problem on /bin/gcl (I think a GCLDIR configuration variable is being blown away). I'm sorry I haven't had the time to fix this yet. --- -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -University of Puerto Rico -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiZkT-0000RD-8G - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:01:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiZkO-0000OY-PK - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:00:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiZkM-0000MO-No - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:00:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiZkM-0000MF-7y - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:00:54 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiZkL-0000q3-HQ - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:00:53 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-108-167.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-108-167.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.208.185.167]) - by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5EACA1C000B1 - for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:00:51 +0100 (CET) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Axiom-Developer Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:01:26 +0100 +From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem +To: list Subject: presea and htsearch Hello, @@ -34191,40 +20876,11 @@ Greg PS : I will report these issues on IssueTracker. - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiaMu-0004G8-Gi - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:40:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiaMq-0004DK-2E - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:40:40 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiaMl-00049q-GS - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:40:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiaMk-00049S-OY - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:40:35 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiaMk-000806-LR - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:40:34 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-108-167.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-108-167.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.208.185.167]) - by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9DC471C0008E - for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:40:33 +0100 (CET) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Axiom-Developer Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:41:09 +0100 -Subject: Experimental support of the mouse wheel in - Hyperdoc - - ---=-vu++/Vl0doFYLVSdjLuK +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list +Subject: Experimental support of the mouse wheel in Hyperdoc Hello, @@ -34267,50 +20923,17 @@ diff -Naur /home/greg/TDevel/cvs/axiom/src/hyper/event.pamphlet ./event.pamphlet link = get_hyper_link(event); - ---=-vu++/Vl0doFYLVSdjLuK-- - - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiasH-0001RA-0k - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:13:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiasF-0001QU-K5 - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:13:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiasD-0001OZ-7Q - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:13:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiasD-0001OK-1s - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:13:05 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiasC-00063j-Ue - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:13:05 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D61F41085; - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:13:03 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAAI8DVw020884; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:08:16 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAAI8DMG020883; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:08:13 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: Re: presea and htsearch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 10 Nov 2006 19:08:13 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: presea and htsearch Vanuxem Gr=E9gory Gregory Vanuxem writes: | Hello, -|=20 -|=20 +| +| | The chunk/file presea (in src/hyper/search.pamphlet) contains | '#!/bin/awk -f' which does not work on my Debian system (awk is | under /usr/bin). I know that there is a variable for awk, so maybe this @@ -34324,32 +20947,10 @@ Yes, we can ask Autoconf to give use the full path to the AWK executable. OK. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gib9U-0006HA-L8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:30:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gib9T-0006F7-Ah - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:30:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gib9R-0006Ck-R1 - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:30:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gib9R-0006CS-LQ - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:30:53 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gib9R-0000KJ-Bp - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:30:53 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gib8Q-0006kf-00 - for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:29:50 +0100 -To: list Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:29:50 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: build un-portability Looking at document script I noticed that it normally uses unquoted @@ -34357,36 +20958,11 @@ values, which may cause trouble with embedded spaces. So I decided to try building axiom in a directory which contained space in its name. Configure worked nice, but build failed immediatly... - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GibE1-00022e-1a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:35:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GibDz-00020x-75 - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:35:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GibDy-00020F-AJ - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:35:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GibDx-0001zy-QN - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:35:34 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GibDx-00017Y-NI - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:35:33 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GibCw-00070Z-00; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:34:30 +0100 -Subject: Re: presea and htsearch -To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem +\start Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:34:30 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Axiom-Developer +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: presea and htsearch > Always in src/hyper/search.pamphlet, the chunk/file htsearch uses > 'sort ... +number ...' which issues a warning on my system : @@ -34409,41 +20985,11 @@ diff -u build-improvements.bb/src/hyper/search.pamphlet build-improvements/src/h @ <>= - --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GibK0-0007e4-OL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:41:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GibJy-0007cB-TX - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:41:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GibJt-0007Vi-EX - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:41:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GibJt-0007VS-8E - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:41:41 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.69] (helo=elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GibJt-0002D9-7I - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:41:41 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=jy0cLnaKm1z8hkn6BVzGbFqaGSA6M3UuIjRzKtbC0imZh5br/Tsp/3aHDcDT41Gs; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.164.153.204] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1GibJs-0003TO-6b - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:41:40 -0500 +\start +Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:52:41 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: list Subject: Re: build-improvements on ia64 -Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:52:41 -0800 - charset="iso-8859-1" On Thu November 9 2006 12:47, Bill Page wrote: > If this problem persists after re-building with a fresh copy of @@ -34558,42 +21104,11 @@ I also tried to do (si:use-fast-links nil) but that gets segfault Alos, if I just try gdb stage0/bootsys when I give run, it crashes (sgfault) -Richard - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gibmr-0001ak-4M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:11:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gibmp-0001ZP-PH - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:11:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gibmk-0001S2-Al - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:11:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gibmj-0001RX-QQ - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:11:29 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.105] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gibmj-0006nW-Lm - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:11:29 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98454107B; - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:11:27 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAAJ6cTf022530; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:06:40 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAAJ6cIJ022529; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:06:38 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 10 Nov 2006 20:06:38 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: build un-portability -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Nov 2006 20:06:38 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -34607,38 +21122,11 @@ problems for Unix-based tools. I'm not worried about them at the moment, e.g. they are very low priority on my list of things to do in build-improvements. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giby3-0004z1-Tm - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:23:12 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giby1-0004x6-Vd - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:23:10 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gibxw-0004sF-Ix - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:23:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gibxw-0004rc-2w - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:23:04 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gibxu-0000ym-Iq - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:23:03 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAAJMTwU017702 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:22:29 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:22:51 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: presea and htsearch -Cc: Axiom-Developer On 11/10/2006 07:34 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > The following removes the warning. OTOH I am not sure if all our @@ -34651,43 +21139,11 @@ actually like to see two lists. 1) Where does Axiom currently compile and/or run? 2) Where should Axiom compile and/or run? (Future plans) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GicP3-00034Y-Ck - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:51:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GicP1-00030o-As - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:51:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GicOz-0002y2-KR - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:51:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GicOz-0002xu-Eu - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:51:01 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GicOz-0005YD-HW - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:51:01 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7892C4F3C2; - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:50:48 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAAJkAtm023592; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:46:12 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAAJkAtf023591; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:46:10 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 10 Nov 2006 20:46:09 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: presea and htsearch - <4554D18B.5060907@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Nov 2006 20:46:09 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -34702,39 +21158,11 @@ I would like to see Axiom run (ideally) wherever GCC runs, e.g. desktops, laptops, etc. I do not insist on 16K memory machines though :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gidu3-0003CQ-H7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:27:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gidu0-00038z-VC - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:27:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gidtx-00035l-NS - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:27:08 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gidtx-00035e-Jl - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:27:05 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gidtx-0004Db-BG - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:27:05 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAALQuwU025617 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:26:56 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:27:22 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: presea and htsearch - -Cc: Axiom-Developer > | Interesting, somebody knows about our potential targets. Where are > | they listed? Isn't that relevant of how portable Axiom should become? @@ -34758,45 +21186,11 @@ but rather be happy with .input files. That all says something about how powerful the machine must be to do certain things. Clearly, "running on some system" and "compiling on some system" is not the same thing. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gieqw-000792-6A - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:28:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giequ-00077I-2i - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:28:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gieqp-00074j-BI - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:27:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gieqp-00074d-7P - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:27:55 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.105] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GieKt-0008Dt-J8 - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:54:57 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D13F4F3E6; - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:54:41 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAALo37m026595; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:50:05 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAALo3i4026594; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:50:03 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 10 Nov 2006 22:50:03 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: presea and htsearch - <4554D18B.5060907@hemmecke.de> - - <4554EEBA.3070504@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 10 Nov 2006 22:50:03 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -34828,42 +21222,11 @@ machines in use. I would hate to build a system that second-guess what users want to do with it. I've come to be very suspcious of the distinction "user" and "developer". --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GifjE-00054F-EP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:24:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GifjC-00052y-Qu - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:24:06 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GifjB-00050w-DR - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:24:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GifjB-00050o-Av - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:24:05 -0500 -Received: from [64.233.182.191] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GifjB-0005zl-3w - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:24:05 -0500 -Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c31so30110nfb - for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:24:03 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=UChnqH+5NqUohuD6aZ3ardOybea2h5W53wq/kuZQkAK3RaABV4Hu/ApSghLkbVba1LYzz6IKYxtH8LhYUUYlQnYc+Wr5Iv3sCovwLJXmyhcp3QQfBwvH5lSlBXzcib1Fzh8akJ+S/+vMnySQWF3Peo/JPDe70lLYOSzlrFefl2s= -Received: by 10.78.201.2 with SMTP id y2mr3173096huf.1163201043098; - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:24:03 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.82.177.7 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:24:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:24:02 -0500 From: Alfredo Portes -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: presea and htsearch - <4554D18B.5060907@hemmecke.de> - - <4554EEBA.3070504@hemmecke.de> -Cc: Axiom-Developer Ralf, @@ -34880,46 +21243,16 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomBinaries page. If anybody wants to add a platform or a binary, please free to do so. -Regards, - -Alfredo - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gig0Z-0007oT-76 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:42:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gig0X-0007jS-52 - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:42:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gig0S-0007ao-Fi - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:42:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gig0S-0007aR-Av - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:41:56 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.18] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gig0S-00087k-AX - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:41:56 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-108-167.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-108-167.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.208.185.167]) - by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C69A11C0008A; - Sat, 11 Nov 2006 00:41:36 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: presea and htsearch -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Gabriel Dos Reis - <4554D18B.5060907@hemmecke.de> - - <4554EEBA.3070504@hemmecke.de> - +\start Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 00:38:57 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: presea and htsearch Le vendredi 10 novembre 2006 =E0 22:50 +0100, Gabriel Dos Reis a =E9crit = : > Ralf Hemmecke writes: ->=20 +> > | > | Interesting, somebody knows about our potential targets. Where ar= e > | > | they listed? Isn't that relevant of how portable Axiom should bec= @@ -34928,18 +21261,18 @@ ome? > | > e.g. desktops, laptops, etc. I do not insist on 16K memory machine= s > | > though :-) -> |=20 +> | > | Do you have a link to a list of systems for GCC? ->=20 +> > The list of *known reports* (which is not the same as supported) is her= e: -> =20 +> > http://gcc.gnu.org/buildstat.html ->=20 ->=20 +> +> > | OK. But there were actually two questions (if not more). Or do you > | mean by "run" also "compile" on these machines? ->=20 +> > I mean run, then compile. I extend this to object code (architecture dependant binary format (to @@ -34947,36 +21280,7 @@ be opposed to what is called bytecode)). Just my thought. -Greg - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiiPh-0001E2-Le - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:16:09 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiiPf-0001BZ-43 - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:16:07 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GiiPb-00017z-Ew - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:16:06 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiiPa-00017j-Bm - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:16:02 -0500 -Received: from [66.196.97.60] (helo=web56701.mail.re3.yahoo.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GiiPa-0003I3-6B - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:16:02 -0500 -Received: (qmail 99148 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Nov 2006 02:16:01 -0000 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; - h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; - b=obM9z9vTTGHiWYyKPNb1nJPHayfeo9osC8foiFSSWKy1XYI3Ue2nvxUt1msdtdAo8F+IgADuCACEhnySvp7XQBPmbSXBhi76+9c39r8ipVVsjwzPZO7z3EEIkdTSVh3W13tIC5AJE572qKA6g24LgQH7UrFTeagM9IWG6Ab5VWE= - ; -Received: from [70.161.176.93] by web56701.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; - Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:16:01 PST Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:16:01 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Yapp To: list @@ -34989,46 +21293,11 @@ is targeting beta availability of the fonts in December. Very good news. I find the license a bit confusing at first glance but at least it is progress! -Cheers, -CY - - - -____________________________________________________________________________________ -Do you Yahoo!? -Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. -http://new.mail.yahoo.com - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giibf-0001cJ-EC - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:28:31 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giibe-0001c9-2r - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:28:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giibc-0001bO-Ar - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:28:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Giibc-0001bL-7O - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:28:28 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.80] (helo=mail260.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Giibc-0005IU-4a - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:28:28 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail260.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAB2RuNn029681; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:28:15 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Gabriel Dos Reis'" Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: build un-portability +\start Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:27:32 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list - -Gaby, +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: build un-portability On November 10, 2006 2:07 PM you wrote: > @@ -35063,39 +21332,11 @@ close or how far away completion of this branch is. It might also help other people who are working on build-improvements to more efficiently contribute to the progress. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gij7X-0006Gc-KY - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:01:27 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gij7X-0006GW-0R - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:01:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gij7V-0006FC-Fx - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:01:26 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gij7V-0006F6-Du - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:01:25 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.109] (helo=mail289.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gij7U-0000UF-Uz - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:01:25 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail289.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAB30uE3004259; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:01:18 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Martin Rubey'" Martin Rubey -Subject: RE: Graph theory Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:00:37 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Martin Rubey +Subject: RE: Graph theory On November 9, 2006 10:23 AM Martin Rubey wrote: > @@ -35130,44 +21371,13 @@ has equality and inequality. I think a Graph in Axiom has to be something nearly as fundamental as a Set. - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GijXY-0006FT-On - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:28:20 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GijXW-0006Dk-Vg - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:28:19 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GijXV-0006Bl-F6 - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:28:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GijXV-0006BY-9M - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:28:17 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GijXV-0007qM-3u - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:28:17 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FBF4F3C1; - Sat, 11 Nov 2006 04:28:12 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAB3NNdh001853; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 04:23:25 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAB3NNWl001852; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 04:23:23 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: build un-portability -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 11 Nov 2006 04:23:23 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: build un-portability -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | Gaby, | @@ -35214,36 +21424,11 @@ keeps poping when I try different ideas in different local trees. I'll upate README.build-improvements. Some of them are not really related to build machinery. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gijs6-0001a4-Ie - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:49:34 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gijs5-0001Zy-Vd - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:49:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gijs4-0001Zk-HC - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:49:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gijs4-0001Zh-BG - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:49:32 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.178] (helo=mail58c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gijs4-0001xq-CM - for list; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:49:32 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail58c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAB3n3ZV012335; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:49:22 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page +Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:48:23 -0500 +From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: RE: build un-portability -Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:48:23 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list On November 10, 2006 10:23 PM Gaby wrote: > ... @@ -35308,47 +21493,13 @@ composed. After you update README.build-improvements, I would like to publish it on the Axiom Wiki. Ok? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GistO-0006cP-Qn - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 08:27:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GistM-0006aX-Od - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 08:27:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GistJ-0006Xg-F5 - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 08:27:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GistJ-0006XN-3C - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 08:27:25 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GistI-0002ds-Qu - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 08:27:25 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9CB4F3CB; - Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:27:15 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kABDMRb0007035; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:22:29 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kABDMQ8w007034; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:22:26 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: build un-portability -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 11 Nov 2006 14:22:26 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: build un-portability -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On November 10, 2006 10:23 PM Gaby wrote: | > ... @@ -35420,39 +21571,11 @@ That is not the case. It fell out of the basic tools used. Sure, as long as you keep the published and the repo versions in sync. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GivSy-0007Wl-7X - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:12:24 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GivSv-0007Tz-O9 - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:12:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GivSt-0007Q9-Ok - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:12:21 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GivSt-0007Py-L2 - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:12:19 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GivSt-0004XK-8I - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:12:19 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kABGBB6c020282 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sat, 11 Nov 2006 17:11:42 +0100 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 17:10:52 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Subject: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: [Axiom-developer] - Graph theory) -Cc: list +Subject: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) > I think one of the neat things about Axiom is that it is usually > not necessary or even desirable to make a distinction between @@ -35495,44 +21618,11 @@ first is (as an abstract data type) clearly a mathematical object. What I care about is stating complexity properties and providing a rich set of basic data structures for Axiom/Aldor. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giybm-00040U-MF - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:33:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giybl-00040P-Pq - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:33:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Giybj-00040A-Ax - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:33:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Giybj-000407-6n - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:33:39 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.106] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Giybj-0002j1-5L - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:33:39 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACE34F3CB; - Sat, 11 Nov 2006 20:33:26 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kABJSiDk010955; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 20:28:46 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kABJSi08010954; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 20:28:44 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: Re: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: [Axiom-developer] - Graph theory) - <4555F60C.9050202@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 11 Nov 2006 20:28:43 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: Re: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -35544,32 +21634,10 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: This is what we do in the Generic Programming community under the heading of "Musser--Stepanov style Generic Programming". --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gj0Lx-0003BC-UO - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:25:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gj0Lw-0003AC-Kt - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:25:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gj0Lu-000394-LS - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:25:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gj0Lu-00038z-I8 - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:25:26 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gj0Lt-0001bg-T9 - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:25:26 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gj0Kp-0002oA-00 - for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 22:24:19 +0100 -To: list Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 22:24:19 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: build problem Version 257 of build-improvements does not build due to missing @@ -35587,44 +21655,11 @@ quotes. The following fixes the problem: LSP=$(abs_builddir)/lsp SRC=${SPD}/src --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gj5DV-0002iG-QM - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 21:37:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gj5DU-0002hw-22 - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 21:37:04 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gj5DS-0002hi-4S - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 21:37:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gj5DR-0002hf-Vm - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 21:37:02 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.100] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gj5DR-0000Qr-VU - for list; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 21:37:02 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D424F3C1; - Sun, 12 Nov 2006 03:36:59 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAC2W6TR016869; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 03:32:09 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAC2W6Tw016868; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 03:32:06 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 12 Nov 2006 03:32:06 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: build problem -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 12 Nov 2006 03:32:06 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -35636,43 +21671,11 @@ This was caused by a thinko and duplicate local tree problems. I fixed in one tree and commit the other one :-( It should be fixed by now. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjG0e-0006pE-8P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:08:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjG0c-0006oW-Ky - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:08:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjG0Z-0006mi-Vz - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:08:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjG0Z-0006me-Qo - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:08:27 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.100] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjG0Z-0007bs-Cx - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:08:27 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B91941086; - Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:08:02 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kACE38Y0022539; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:03:10 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kACE38ce022538; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:03:08 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 12 Nov 2006 15:03:07 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Richard Harke Subject: Re: build-improvements on ia64 - <200611101052.41810.Richard Harke> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 12 Nov 2006 15:03:07 +0100 -Cc: list Richard Harke writes: @@ -35688,38 +21691,11 @@ Could you send the config.log and the build log? I'm able to build Axiom (--without-gcl) on a x86_64-suse-linux and use it. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjGDq-0008M4-W4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:22:11 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjGDp-0008K6-Gn - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:22:09 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjGDl-0008Ie-OM - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:22:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjGDl-0008IZ-Jk - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:22:05 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GjGDl-0001zz-CW - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:22:05 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kACEM2t4007217 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:22:02 +0100 Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:22:45 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Graph theory -Cc: list > For example, is an Axiom set, i.e. a member of the domain Set, a > data structure or a mathematical structure? Should we call the @@ -35742,45 +21718,19 @@ That is OK, I think. As a category, I agree, but there is not *the* graph domain. -Ralf - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjIGs-00065X-18 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:33:26 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjIGq-00062s-9z - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:33:24 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjIGo-00060Y-L0 - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:33:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjIGo-00060V-EC - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:33:22 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.17] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjIGo-0000wk-Ci - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:33:22 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-27-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-27-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.133.118]) - by mwinf1911.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8B6661C000E2 - for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:33:20 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Multiset Hyperdoc examples page (was : Re: Graph - theory) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Axiom-Developer - <45572E35.7060805@hemmecke.de> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:34:03 +0100 +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: list +Subject: Multiset Hyperdoc examples page (was : Re: Graph theory) -Le dimanche 12 novembre 2006 =E0 15:22 +0100, Ralf Hemmecke a =E9crit :=20 +Le dimanche 12 novembre 2006 =E0 15:22 +0100, Ralf Hemmecke a =E9crit : > > For example, is an Axiom set, i.e. a member of the domain Set, a > > data structure or a mathematical structure? Should we call the > > domain Set a mathematical structure or only the category SetCategory > > to which it belongs? And of course not everything that we would > > like to call a set in Axiom is finite. ->=20 +> > Actually, "Set" is a bad choice for the domain of finite sets that all > have the same type of elements. It should at least be called > "FiniteSet". But then, would make "Set" as a _domain_ in the sense of @@ -35803,35 +21753,11 @@ maybe this bug ("Unknown page: MultisetXmpPage") is specific to me. I wanted to use the Debian version but encountered another bug ("string something"). -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjJC7-0008Ox-JU - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:32:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjJC6-0008Or-Ov - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:32:34 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjJC4-0008Mp-6C - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:32:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjJC4-0008Md-2s - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:32:32 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjJC3-0008LT-V3 - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:32:32 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GjJAz-0003d1-00; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:31:25 +0100 -Subject: Re: Multiset Hyperdoc examples page (was : Re: Graph - theory) -To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:31:25 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: Axiom-Developer +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: Multiset Hyperdoc examples page (was : Re: Graph theory) Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > I played a little with this and reread aggcat which contains the @@ -35843,52 +21769,25 @@ Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > MSET.ht contains MultiSetXmpPage, which due to different capitalization -does not match MultisetXmpPage. =20 -=20 +does not match MultisetXmpPage. + > Any idea why this page is not found ? Some other questions, is ph.awk > available somewhere, same thing for the sources of theses files, are > they available somewhere ? What is the difference between a .ht file and > a .pht file ? ->=20 +> .pht was generated form .ht file. It contains Axiom output, so that Hypertex can show the output without recomputiong it. I affraid that we need to re-create ph.awk (maybe using another language). ---=20 - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjPCy-0004ue-QX - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:57:52 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjPCx-0004su-K5 - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:57:51 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjPCv-0004pa-J6 - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:57:51 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjPCv-0004pM-EZ - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:57:49 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.1] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjPCv-0006uY-Er - for list; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:57:49 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-27-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-27-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.133.118]) - by mwinf1904.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 354BC1C0008D; - Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:57:25 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: Multiset Hyperdoc examples page (was : Re: [Axiom-developer] - Graph theory) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Waldek Hebisch +\start Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:57:34 +0100 -Cc: Axiom-Developer +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: Re: Multiset Hyperdoc examples page (was : Re: Graph theory) -Le dimanche 12 novembre 2006 =E0 18:31 +0100, Waldek Hebisch a =E9crit :=20 +Le dimanche 12 novembre 2006 =E0 18:31 +0100, Waldek Hebisch a =E9crit : > Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > > I played a little with this and reread aggcat which contains the > > aggregate categories used in src/algebra. I displayed in Hyperdoc @@ -35898,67 +21797,34 @@ Le dimanche 12 novembre 2006 =E0 18:31 +0100, Waldek Hebisch a =E9crit :=20 > > returned "Unknown page: MultisetXmpPage". This page seems to exist, > > MSET.[p]ht contain some of what I think are examples. > > ->=20 +> > MSET.ht contains MultiSetXmpPage, which due to different capitalization > does not match MultisetXmpPage. I'll look further at it. -> =20 +> > > Any idea why this page is not found ? Some other questions, is ph.awk > > available somewhere, same thing for the sources of theses files, are > > they available somewhere ? What is the difference between a .ht file = and > > a .pht file ? -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > .pht was generated form .ht file. It contains Axiom output, so that > Hypertex can show the output without recomputiong it. I affraid that > we need to re-create ph.awk (maybe using another language). ->=20 +> Thanks for these explanations. -Greg - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjXHt-0007uU-Ss - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 03:35:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjXHq-0007s7-Q2 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 03:35:26 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjXHm-0007pN-QR - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 03:35:25 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjXHm-0007pK-Na - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 03:35:22 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjXHm-0006Py-5g - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 03:35:22 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F5E4F3D2; - Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:35:15 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAD8TfEG005016; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:29:48 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAD8TfMv005015; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:29:41 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: [Axiom-developer] - Graph theory) -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 13 Nov 2006 09:29:40 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | On November 11, 2006 2:29 PM Gaby wrote: | > @@ -36032,36 +21898,10 @@ terms of those. We are working on connecting both views. Chase the citations to the datatype generic programming. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjaPk-0004jL-Gq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 06:55:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjaPi-0004gn-Fd - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 06:55:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjaPe-0004dP-E3 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 06:55:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjaPd-0004cy-UB - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 06:55:41 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.101] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjaPd-0005IF-G2 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 06:55:41 -0500 -Received: from petoncle (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD39E4F3B8; - Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:55:31 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by petoncle with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) - id 1GjaPa-0001a1-Eg; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:55:38 +0100 -To: list -From: Francois Maltey Date: 13 Nov 2006 12:55:38 +0100 -Cc: +From: Francois Maltey +To: list Subject: import and map in *.spad files. Hello, @@ -36094,41 +21934,11 @@ What are theses import command ? Thanks a lot and have a good day ! -Francois, in France. - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjcA8-0000vi-ED - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:47:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjcA6-0000tM-KX - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:47:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjcA4-0000ps-1Y - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:47:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjcA3-0000pk-UL - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:47:43 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GjcA3-0000Ga-Rc - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:47:44 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gjc9x-0001gc-Co; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:47:37 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1Gjc9x-0007Hx-Bf; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:47:37 +0100 +\start +Date: 13 Nov 2006 14:47:36 +0100 +From: Martin Rubey To: Francois Maltey Subject: Re: import and map in *.spad files. -From: Martin Rubey -Date: 13 Nov 2006 14:47:36 +0100 -Cc: list Francois Maltey writes: @@ -36170,35 +21980,10 @@ tells axiom to bring PolynomialCategoryLifting(IndexedExponents K, K, R, P, F) into scope, so that you don't have to package call (using $) these functions all the time. - - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjdl5-0005uz-4H - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:30:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjdl3-0005uQ-Ko - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:30:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjdkz-0005sd-Sr - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:30:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gjdkz-0005sa-O5 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:29:57 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gjdkz-00019w-F6 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:29:57 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GjdkO-00072P-00; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:29:20 -0500 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis -From: Camm Maguire Date: 13 Nov 2006 10:29:20 -0500 -Cc: list +From: Camm Maguire +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Axiom ia64 Greetings! Please excuse -- I am no longer receiving axiom developer @@ -36378,37 +22163,10 @@ If anyone would like to help getting bfd support for ia64 and friends, please look at sfaslbfd_alpha.c and sfaslbfd_mips.c from the HEAD cvs tree. This should serve as an example for the needed sfaslbfd_ia64.c - -Take care, --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjdyE-0006sJ-NP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:43:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjdyC-0006q1-OI - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:43:36 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjdyC-0006pE-64 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:43:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjdyC-0006ox-1L; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:43:36 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GjdyC-0003LV-4f; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:43:36 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1Gjdxh-00075l-00; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:43:05 -0500 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis -From: Camm Maguire +\start Date: 13 Nov 2006 10:43:05 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org +From: Camm Maguire +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: gcl and readline Greetings! 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I am having some issue with the eval function, any ideas ?
I have reduced my problem to the simplest form.
It is making me crazy !!!

Because UP, which is a PolynomialCat, has InnerEvalable

-PolynomialCategory(R:Ring, E:OrderedAbelianMonoidSup, VarSet:OrderedSet):
        Category ==
  Join(PartialDifferentialRing VarSet, FiniteAbelianMonoidRing(R, E),
       Evalable %, InnerEvalable(VarSet, R),
-       InnerEvalable(VarSet, %), RetractableTo VarSet,
       FullyLinearlyExplicitRingOver R)

What am I missing ?

Prog :

#include "axiom.as"

TestEval( x:Symbol , F:Field): with {} -
== add {


    import from UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) ;
    import from Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) ;

    test(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == {
-        eval(a, x, 1)
    }

And here his the error message :

 aldor -M no-abbrev -O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-AXL_W_WillObsolete -DAxiom -Y $AXIOM/algebra eval.as
#1 (Warning) Deprecated message prefix: use `ALDOR_' instead of `_AXL' -
"eval.as", line 11:                 eval(a, x, 1)
                    ................^
[L11 C17] #2 (Error) No one possible return type satisfies the context type.
  These possible return types were rejected: -
          -- Fraction(UnivariatePolynomial(x, F))
  The context requires an expression of type Fraction(UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)).
The following could be suitable if imported:
  eval: (Fraction(UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)), Symbol pretend SetCategory, UnivariatePolynomial(x, F) pretend Type) -> Fraction(UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)) from Fraction(UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)), if UnivariatePolynomial(x, F) has InnerEvalable(Symbol, UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)) -

Thanks

Antoine Hersen
}
- -------=_Part_15699_21592738.1163457866184-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjlBi-0007tz-Rb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:26:02 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjlBh-0007rc-KQ - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:26:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjlBg-0007qb-Js - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:26:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjlBg-0007qL-7f - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:26:00 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GjlBg-0001rz-3V - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:26:00 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kADNPvt4021317 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:25:58 +0100 +\start Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:26:50 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Antoine Hersen Subject: Re: Eval in Axiom/Aldor -Cc: axiom-developer Hi Antoine, @@ -37272,45 +22567,13 @@ On 11/13/2006 11:44 PM, Antoine Hersen wrote: > Fraction(UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)) from > Fraction(UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)), if UnivariatePolynomial(x, F) has > InnerEvalable(Symbol, UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)) -> -> Thanks -> -> Antoine Hersen -> } -> -> -> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Axiom-developer mailing list -> list -> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjnFe-0003m1-U2 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:38:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjnFd-0003lg-24 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:38:13 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjnFb-0003kf-6M - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:38:12 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjnFa-0003kc-UD - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:38:10 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjnFa-000767-PC - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:38:11 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GjnDq-0004wZ-00; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 02:36:22 +0100 -Subject: Re: Axiom ia64 -To: Camm Maguire Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 02:36:22 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Camm Maguire +Subject: Re: Axiom ia64 +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Camm Maguire wrote: > At present, there are 5 platforms in gcl-2.6.x (hppa, ia64, alpha, @@ -37342,50 +22605,13 @@ the same database and speed is also quite similar. BTW. To load domain files in interpreted mode I just removed .o files (there is probably a better way). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjoD5-0006MO-Ad - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:39:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjoD3-0006Lh-Oq - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:39:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjoD2-0006LJ-10 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:39:36 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjoD1-0006L8-Ru - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:39:35 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.82] (helo=mail262.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GjoD1-0007aC-O8 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:39:35 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail262.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAE2d9Aq008453 - for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:39:24 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: -Subject: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: [Axiom-developer] - Graph theory) +\start Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:39:00 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" - - - ------Original Message----- -From: Bill Page [mailto:Bill Page]=20 -Sent: November 13, 2006 1:13 AM +From: Bill Page To: list -Cc: 'Martin Rubey'; 'Ralf Hemmecke'; 'Bill Page' -Subject: RE: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: -Graph theory) +Subject: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) +-----Original Message----- On November 11, 2006 11:11 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > ... @@ -37394,7 +22620,7 @@ On November 11, 2006 11:11 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > usually not necessary or even desirable to make a distinction > > between data structures and mathematical structures. Data > > structures are just another kind of "mathematical" object. ->=20 +> > Oh, don't believe that I don't see data structures as > mathematical structures. They are. But I rather have the feeling > that for efficiency reasons it is desirable to have some basic @@ -37442,7 +22668,7 @@ Ultimately in computer algebra systems I think all mathematics must be constructive. In a sense, that is what we mean by "algebra". An existence proof or a proof by contradiction is not of much use in such a system. -=20 + > Example. You want to implement quicksort. Would someone choose > lists to do that instead of arrays? @@ -37461,7 +22687,7 @@ the necessary methods on which sort may operate. Agreed. -> Why does Axiom have distributed and recursive polynomials.=20 +> Why does Axiom have distributed and recursive polynomials. > Mathematically it's the same thing, so why bother? This may not be such a good example since I think the difference @@ -37469,7 +22695,7 @@ here is primarily related to how these domains coerce to OutputForm. It is not clear to me how or when we can say that something is "mathematically the same thing". ->=20 +> > I hope you get somehow the feeling what I meant when I said > that I care for data structures of graphs. We all know that > some representation is better than the other for certain @@ -37477,8 +22703,8 @@ It is not clear to me how or when we can say that something is > Yes that is true and I agree that it is an important issue. -=20 -> Drawing the line between "data structures" and "mathematical=20 + +> Drawing the line between "data structures" and "mathematical > structures" is hard if not impossible. But for data structures > I somehow feel that their documentation should clearly say > something about the complexity of operations. @@ -37489,26 +22715,26 @@ conceptually. See for example the Algebra and Data structure hierachies in the end covers of the Axiom book. However note that at least SetCategory, Finite, and OrderedSet appear in both diagrams. -=20 + > > For example, is an Axiom set, i.e. a member of the domain Set, > > a data structure or a mathematical structure? ->=20 +> > How expensive is it to add a new element to an existing set of > type Set(T) where T has no ordering function? How expensive is > it to add a new element to Set(T) if T provides an ordering > function? ->=20 +> All domains that have SetCategory are required to have a hash into SmallInteger. I suppose that this means that the cost of adding new elements is independent of Type T. -> I actually don't care about much about whether to call it "data=20 +> I actually don't care about much about whether to call it "data > structure" or "mathematical structure" since in a general sense > the first is (as an abstract data type) clearly a mathematical > object. What I care about is stating complexity properties and > providing a rich set of basic data structures for Axiom/Aldor. ->=20 +> On November 12, 2006 9:23 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > ... @@ -37516,7 +22742,7 @@ On November 12, 2006 9:23 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > Should we call the domain Set a mathematical structure or only > > the category SetCategory to which it belongs? And of course not > > everything that we would like to call a set in Axiom is finite. ->=20 +> > Actually, "Set" is a bad choice for the domain of finite sets > that all have the same type of elements. It should at least be > called "FiniteSet". @@ -37558,15 +22784,15 @@ then #:%->NNI, or cardinality of the size of a given set. It is true that all members of Set have a finite cardinality. But not all domains in SetCategory are Finite. ->=20 +> > > Essentially the only requirement of SetCategory is that the > > domain has equality and inequality. ->=20 +> > That is OK, I think. ->=20 +> > > I think a Graph in Axiom has to be something nearly as > > fundamental as a Set. ->=20 +> > As a category, I agree, but there is not *the* graph domain. Similar to Set, I think we need to admit the possibility of an @@ -37593,55 +22819,16 @@ On November 12, 2006 11:34 AM Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: I think it is interesting that multisets only have cardinality if the domain has finiteAggregate since count is unbounded. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjoEf-0006vk-Cb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:41:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjoEd-0006vf-LZ - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:41:15 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjoEb-0006vQ-5a - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:41:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjoEb-0006vN-0R - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:41:13 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.81] (helo=mail261.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GjoEa-0007l5-SU - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:41:13 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail261.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAE2eqc8005491 - for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:41:07 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:40:41 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" +From: Bill Page +To: list Subject: FW: Multiset Hyperdoc examples page - - -----Original Message----- -From: Bill Page [mailto:Bill Page]=20 -Sent: November 13, 2006 12:12 AM -To: 'Waldek Hebisch' -Cc: 'Axiom-Developer'; 'Kai Kaminski'; 'Vanuxem Gr=E9gory' -Subject: RE: Multiset Hyperdoc examples page - On November 12, 2006 12:31 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: ->=20 +> > Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > > I played a little with this and reread aggcat which contains > > the aggregate categories used in src/algebra. I displayed in @@ -37652,26 +22839,26 @@ On November 12, 2006 12:31 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > > This page seems to exist, MSET.[p]ht contain some of what I > > think are examples. > > ->=20 -> MSET.ht contains MultiSetXmpPage, which due to different=20 -> capitalization does not match MultisetXmpPage. =20 +> +> MSET.ht contains MultiSetXmpPage, which due to different +> capitalization does not match MultisetXmpPage. > It seems that there is a realistic prospect of making hyperdoc more useful and more reliable. Is there enough interest to warrant establishing a new branch focusing on hyperdoc-improvements? - =20 + > > Any idea why this page is not found ? Some other questions, > > is ph.awk available somewhere, same thing for the sources of > > theses files, are they available somewhere ? What is the > > difference between a .ht file and a .pht file ? -> >=20 ->=20 +> > +> > .pht was generated form .ht file. It contains Axiom output, > so that Hypertex can show the output without recomputiong it. > I am afraid that we need to re-create ph.awk (maybe using > another language). ->=20 +> There are awk scripts like ht.awk that sound similar to this in the htex directory that is part of the original Axiom source @@ -37687,54 +22874,16 @@ it is not difficult. Some parts of this would be similar to what is done on the Axiom wiki to product wiki pages with embedded Axiom output (using Python). - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjosq-0005Yd-Ig - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:22:48 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjosp-0005Y1-9M - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:22:47 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjosm-0005XM-Fs - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:22:46 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gjosm-0005XD-BW - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:22:44 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gjosl-0001T6-RB - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:22:44 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0DC040E35; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:21:53 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAE3GtcT028276; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:16:58 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAE3Gtxr028275; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:16:55 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Nov 2006 04:16:55 +0100 -Cc: list - +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) [ Is it normal that I don't see Ralf's messages? ] -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] @@ -37797,45 +22946,22 @@ That is not a mathematical requirement. Why? - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjp6t-0007RC-4a - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:37:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjp6q-0007Q3-K1 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:37:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjp6m-0007OC-61 - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:37:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gjp6m-0007O9-1Z - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:37:12 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.108] (helo=mail288.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gjp6l-0001kS-VU - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:37:12 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail288.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAE3apB9000657; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:37:07 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'C Y'" Cliff Yapp -Subject: RE: mercurial source code control system Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:36:22 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Cliff Yapp +Subject: RE: mercurial source code control system Cliff, On November 13, 2006 4:57 PM you wrote: ->=20 +> > Just thought you might like to know I'm installing mercurial > to try out working with build-improvements, after seeing this > interview about the Java open sourcing: > -=20 + http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/Interviews/gosling_os1_qa= .ht ml @@ -37848,45 +22974,16 @@ You might be interested in the draft of a book on Mercurial: http://www.red-bean.com/~bos/hgbook.pdf -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjq1m-0004dU-St - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:36:06 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjq1l-0004c6-Rl - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:36:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gjq1k-0004Zx-4c - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:36:05 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gjq1j-0004Zl-Vn - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:36:04 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.180] (helo=mail60c2.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gjq1j-0004q5-UW - for list; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:36:04 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail60c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAE4ZVb8021816; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:35:46 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:35:24 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) Gaby, On November 13, 2006 10:17 PM you wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > [ Is it normal that I don't see Ralf's messages? ] > @@ -37900,10 +22997,10 @@ been forwarded to you. Are you missing some? > Bill Page writes: > ... -> |=20 +> | > | All domains that have SetCategory are required to have a hash > | into SmallInteger. ->=20 +> > That is not a mathematical requirement. > @@ -37913,9 +23010,9 @@ I would tend to agree but perhaps Kurt G=F6del would not have... ;-) > | I suppose that this means that the cost of adding > | new elements is independent of Type T. ->=20 +> > Why? ->=20 +> hash makes testing equality O(1). @@ -37930,66 +23027,31 @@ Set(S:SetCategory): FiniteSetAggregate S ... ++ \spad{insert(x,t)} and \spad{remove(x,t)} is \spad{O(n)} ... - insert_!(x, s) =3D=3D + insert_!(x, s) == for k in minIndex s .. maxIndex s repeat - s.k =3D x =3D> return s + s.k = x => return s insert_!(x, s, inc maxIndex s) ... -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjqXE-000815-Vv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:08:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjqXD-00080k-H7 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:08:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjqXC-00080I-QA - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:08:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjqXC-00080F-K4 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:08:34 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.102] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjqXC-0001E0-Cs - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:08:34 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8717E4F3BC; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:08:30 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAE53X5l030068; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:03:35 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAE53XrN030067; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:03:33 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Nov 2006 06:01:13 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: [...] | > Bill Page writes: | > ... -| > |=20 +| > | | > | All domains that have SetCategory are required to have a hash | > | into SmallInteger. -| >=20 +| > | > That is not a mathematical requirement. | > -|=20 +| | I would tend to agree but perhaps Kurt G=F6del would not have... ;-) >From constructive mathematics point of view, the only things that are @@ -37998,47 +23060,17 @@ required for a set are: (1) say how to build element of a set (2) equality test. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjtVV-0002KZ-JJ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 03:19:01 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjtVT-0002K8-Ku - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 03:18:59 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjtVR-0002JK-Ph - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 03:18:59 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjtVR-0002JE-KM - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 03:18:57 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GjtVR-0004yr-EJ - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 03:18:57 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GjtVJ-0005MJ-4Y; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:18:49 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GjtVJ-0004Jl-3Y; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:18:49 +0100 -To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -Subject: Re: Eval in Axiom/Aldor -From: Martin Rubey Date: 14 Nov 2006 09:18:48 +0100 -Cc: axiom-developer +From: Martin Rubey +To: Antoine Hersen +Subject: Re: Eval in Axiom/Aldor Dear Antoine, great to see you here! -"Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: +Antoine Hersen writes: > test(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction > UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == { @@ -38080,35 +23112,10 @@ In any case, the fix is probably very easy, since QuotientFieldCategory has numer and denom. However, we should to check which definitions of "eval" should be provided. There are so many defaults... - - -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjzX6-0004AO-Kv - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:45:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjzX4-00048R-Qo - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:45:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GjzX4-00047f-2j - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:45:02 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjzX3-00047T-Pm - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:45:01 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjzX4-00046s-BQ - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:45:02 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GjzVy-00017m-00 - for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:43:54 +0100 -To: list Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:43:54 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: New branch? I consider starting a new branch. I feel that Axiom needs a period @@ -38130,38 +23137,11 @@ makes changes and understanding harder, so I think that cleanups and removals should be done quickly -- accepting risks of temporary breakage. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk07X-0007Kf-6D - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:22:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk07V-0007Ji-On - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:22:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk07T-0007HT-4W - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:22:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk07S-0007HL-UB - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:22:38 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.82] (helo=mail262.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk07T-0008CD-FD - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:22:39 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail262.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAEFMGjr006569; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:22:31 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: "'Waldek Hebisch'" Waldek Hebisch -Subject: RE: New branch? +\start Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:22:04 -0500 - charset="us-ascii" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Waldek Hebisch +Subject: RE: New branch? On November 14, 2006 9:44 AM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > @@ -38200,45 +23180,11 @@ However for each such branch I think we need someone to take primary responsibility. Is there anyone sufficiently strongly motivated to take on the task of hyperdoc improvements? -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk0FX-0007Mu-1X - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:30:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk0FV-0007KP-G9 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:30:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk0FT-0007Go-Qq - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:30:57 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk0FT-0007Gd-MW - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:30:55 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk0FU-0001Rc-7x - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:30:56 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CF8410DF; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:30:54 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAEFPrPx008583; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:25:56 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAEFPraj008582; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:25:53 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 14 Nov 2006 16:25:53 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: New branch? -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Nov 2006 16:25:53 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -38269,38 +23215,11 @@ just work on compiler-improvements branch and deal with the merges? As for the databse, I have strong feeling that we should not underestimate the work done by the dynamic libraries community. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk0O5-0005MF-5S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:39:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk0O2-0005Kd-MA - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:39:46 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk0Nz-0005JJ-LH - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:39:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk0Nz-0005JE-D6 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:39:43 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk0Nz-0003E9-Jj - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:39:43 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAEFdeZl009286 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:39:41 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:42 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page Subject: Re: New branch? -Cc: list > There are at least two other possible branches that we should > consider: @@ -38322,87 +23241,27 @@ becomes silver, before I start branching from one of them. Tim, Gaby, when do you expect the build-improvements branch to be merged back to silver? -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk17h-00040e-Fo - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:26:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk17g-00040Q-Ch - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:26:56 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk17e-00040D-0t - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:26:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk17d-00040A-Rq - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:26:53 -0500 -Received: from [24.154.1.27] (helo=mx-8.zoominternet.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk17e-00045W-76 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:26:54 -0500 -Received: from pop-3.zoominternet.net (mua-3.zoominternet.net [24.154.1.46]) - by mx-8.zoominternet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAEGQRgA003691 - for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:26:36 -0500 -Received: (qmail 16601 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2006 16:26:29 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([72.23.233.73]) - (envelope-sender Tim Daly) - by pop-3.zoominternet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP - for Bill Page; 14 Nov 2006 16:26:29 -0000 -Received: (from root@localhost) - by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id kAEGGWT05024; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:16:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:16:32 -0500 -From: root Tim Daly +From: Tim Daly To: Ralf Hemmecke - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:42 +0100) Subject: Re: New branch? - <4559E37A.2030105@hemmecke.de> -Cc: list > I actually would feel better if build-improvements is finished first and > becomes silver, before I start branching from one of them. > Tim, Gaby, when do you expect the build-improvements branch to be merged > back to silver? - All responsibility for silver/gold/release is now a community effort. It's up to everyone to decide what, when, and how things should happen. I'm working on several subtasks that are not yet ready for release so I have no changes to promote. -t - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1BK-0005aC-5L - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:30:42 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1BH-0005Yz-Oo - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:30:39 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1BF-0005YX-BD - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:30:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk1BF-0005YU-5U - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:30:37 -0500 -Received: from [216.251.41.82] (helo=mail262.megamailservers.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk1BF-0004uZ-Is - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:30:37 -0500 -Received: from asus ([207.35.46.72]) - by mail262.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id - kAEGU84G025802; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:30:23 -0500 -From: "Bill Page" Bill Page -To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:29:55 -0500 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list +From: Bill Page +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) > Bill Page writes: > | > | All domains that have SetCategory are required to have a @@ -38411,19 +23270,19 @@ Cc: list > | Gaby wrote: > | > That is not a mathematical requirement. > | -> Bill Page wrote;=20 +> Bill Page wrote; > | I would tend to agree but perhaps Kurt G=F6del would not have... > | ;-) ->=20 +> On November 14, 2006 12:01 AM Gaby wrote: > From constructive mathematics point of view, the only things > that are required for a set are: ->=20 +> > (1) say how to build element of a set > (2) equality test. ->=20 +> No, there is a lot more to the mathematics of set than that. It would mean that all sets are finite and that is quite far from @@ -38463,36 +23322,11 @@ in Axiom but I think this is exactly the place where computer algebra meets proof theory and is therefore ripe for further development. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1Ou-0004fh-AR - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:44:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1Or-0004ch-Ro - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:44:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1Oo-0004Yh-Is - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:44:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk1Oo-0004YR-5X - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:44:38 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk1Oo-0007vY-94 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:44:38 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gk1Nf-0007jY-00; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:43:27 +0100 -Subject: Re: New branch? -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:43:27 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: New branch? Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -38546,50 +23380,12 @@ Could you elaborate: I feel that I have adequate understanding of dynamic code generation and linking but maybe I am missing something? --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1s8-0005AB-DP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:14:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1s6-00057H-Ec - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:14:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1s2-00051e-5L - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:14:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk1s1-00050v-Lo - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:14:49 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk1s1-0006EK-VS - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:14:50 -0500 -Received: (qmail 12160 invoked by uid 7797); 14 Nov 2006 17:11:31 -0000 -Received: from 136.145.54.123 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(136.145.54.123):. - Processed in 0.06585 secs); 14 Nov 2006 17:11:31 -0000 - Camm Maguire, list -Received: from unknown (HELO ?136.145.54.123?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@136.145.54.123) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 14 Nov 2006 17:11:31 -0000 +\start Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:14:46 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga -To: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <4553DF48.2030207@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list, - Gabriel Dos Reis - -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------060705010106010306030309 +Cc: Camm Maguire, Gabriel Dos Reis Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: @@ -38648,47 +23444,12 @@ http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ esac ---------------060705010106010306030309-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1vq-0000oC-Kq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:18:46 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1vp-0000m3-4t - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:18:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk1vm-0000jj-NM - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:18:44 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk1vm-0000jY-E2 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:18:42 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-1-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk1vm-0007FY-Vh - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:18:43 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-1-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD15BB65 - for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:18:52 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (postal.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-1-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86E1CEB0; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:18:50 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4655846DE03; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:18:39 -0600 (CST) +\start Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:18:34 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> - <4553DF48.2030207@hpcf.upr.edu> <4559F986.9000908@hpcf.upr.edu> -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga wrote: @@ -38721,40 +23482,13 @@ This is great! We should disable xgcl for all of the targets. Could your update your patch accordingly and commit? I can do it but not now (unfortunately). -Thanks! - --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk2mN-0000xC-2c - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:13:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk2mL-0000wE-U1 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:13:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk2mI-0000u3-IC - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:13:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk2mI-0000tz-Cj - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:12:58 -0500 -Received: from [80.12.242.19] (helo=smtp-msa-out19.orange.fr) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk2mI-00020X-NJ - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:12:59 -0500 -Received: from ALille-251-1-63-54.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr - (ALille-251-1-63-54.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.219.54]) - by mwinf1923.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BF7201C000B9; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:12:56 +0100 (CET) -Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) -From: Vanuxem =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -To: Bill Page Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:12:56 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gregory Vanuxem +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) -Le lundi 13 novembre 2006 =E0 21:39 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit :=20 +Le lundi 13 novembre 2006 =E0 21:39 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit : [...] @@ -38763,7 +23497,7 @@ Le lundi 13 novembre 2006 =E0 21:39 -0500, Bill Page a =E9crit :=20 > > that for efficiency reasons it is desirable to have some basic > > data structures underlying the mathematics where one can say > > something about the complexity of the functions. ->=20 +> > Axiom actually has a very specific notion of what it means for > one mathematical structure to underly another - representation. > In Axiom domains have an associated internal representation, Rep. @@ -38796,7 +23530,7 @@ I do not like this experimentation, in the Axiom world (more below). > > Example. You want to implement quicksort. Would someone choose > > lists to do that instead of arrays? ->=20 +> > In Axiom this is not really an appropriate question. quicksort > would be implemented in a generic manner so that it can be applied > to any domain that provides the necessary methods. In fact in the @@ -38806,13 +23540,13 @@ I do not totally agree. Yes it's good to implement default algorithm in categories but each domain has the possibility to provide its own implementation and this is a good thing. Do you want, for the exponentiation of Integers, to use the repeatedSquaring algorithm coded -in Spad ? For me it's an important question.=20 +in Spad ? For me it's an important question. [...] -> > Why does Axiom have distributed and recursive polynomials.=20 +> > Why does Axiom have distributed and recursive polynomials. > > Mathematically it's the same thing, so why bother? ->=20 +> > This may not be such a good example since I think the difference > here is primarily related to how these domains coerce to OutputForm. @@ -38834,13 +23568,13 @@ loped areas in Axiom) so I can not argue about this, but some algorithms depends intimately on the internal representation used. -=20 + > > I hope you get somehow the feeling what I meant when I said > > that I care for data structures of graphs. We all know that > > some representation is better than the other for certain > > algorithms. > > ->=20 +> > Yes that is true and I agree that it is an important issue. Yes :-) But even for the question of implementing generic things. You hav= @@ -38893,44 +23627,13 @@ hat I think !!! PS2: I love how Axiom and Mupad (it's no longer free :-() are, conceptual= ly, implemented. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk2xb-0004Hg-JQ - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:24:39 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk2xZ-0004FF-Gl - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:24:37 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk2xX-0004Cr-SO - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:24:37 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk2xX-0004Cd-Jr - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:24:35 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk2xY-0004Bb-4L - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:24:36 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A8B41085; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:24:33 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAEIJXn8013999; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:19:35 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAEIJXbs013998; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:19:33 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: "Bill Page" Bill Page -Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 14 Nov 2006 19:19:32 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) -"Bill Page" Bill Page writes: +Bill Page writes: | > Bill Page writes: | > | > | All domains that have SetCategory are required to have a @@ -38939,20 +23642,20 @@ Cc: list | > | Gaby wrote: | > | > That is not a mathematical requirement. | > | -| > Bill Page wrote;=20 +| > Bill Page wrote; | > | I would tend to agree but perhaps Kurt G=F6del would not have... | > | ;-) -| >=20 -|=20 +| > +| | On November 14, 2006 12:01 AM Gaby wrote: -|=20 +| | > From constructive mathematics point of view, the only things | > that are required for a set are: -| >=20 +| > | > (1) say how to build element of a set | > (2) equality test. -| >=20 -|=20 +| > +| | No, there is a lot more to the mathematics of set than that. It | would mean that all sets are finite and that is quite far from | the case. @@ -38960,7 +23663,7 @@ Cc: list How do you arrive to that conclusion? | Rather, sets should be strongly related to types. -|=20 +| | I think the "constructive mathematics" that is most suitable | to Axiom is probably is probably Intuitionist type theory | (Martin-L=F6f). See: @@ -38968,7 +23671,7 @@ How do you arrive to that conclusion? In fact, I prefer the definition given by Erret Bishop. See chapters 1 and 2 "his" book - "Constructive Analysis",=20 + "Constructive Analysis", Erret Bishop Douglas Bridges @@ -38976,32 +23679,10 @@ and 2 "his" book >From my perspective, it shows a much deeper impact. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk4nF-00086V-2l - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:22:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk4nD-00085y-Hx - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:22:03 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk4nC-000858-45 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:22:03 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk4nB-000852-Ph - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:22:01 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk4nC-0006dh-4S - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:22:02 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1Gk4m6-0004bQ-00 - for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:20:54 +0100 -To: list Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:20:54 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: src/hyper/Makefile.in Gaby, @@ -39009,44 +23690,11 @@ Gaby, You applied change in version 259 only to Makefile.in (Makefile.pamphlet stayed unchanged). --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5J9-00042u-LS - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:55:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5J8-00040m-7r - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:55:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5J6-00040C-Kl - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:55:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk5J6-000401-DE - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:55:00 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.102] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk5J7-0003VJ-22 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:55:01 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D4440F45; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:54:58 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAEKnwkt017777; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:50:00 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAEKnwRG017776; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:49:58 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 14 Nov 2006 21:49:57 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: src/hyper/Makefile.in -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 14 Nov 2006 21:49:57 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -39066,39 +23714,12 @@ the interpreter being a kind of Spad algebra over the compiler. Maybe that would also give a good way to bnatural, and better surpport for generic programming (good for Axiom!). --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5Zb-0003zM-G8 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:12:03 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5ZY-0003yN-Sy - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:12:00 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5ZU-0003w0-0H - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:12:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk5ZT-0003vo-Qs - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:11:55 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk5ZT-0005pJ-F7 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:11:56 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAELBkZl018478 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:11:46 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:12:51 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: compiler-improvements (was: src/hyper/Makefile.in) - -Cc: Stephen Watt, list +Cc: Stephen Watt Hi Gaby, @@ -39127,60 +23748,27 @@ That is what I wished for so long... It seems that with the speed of Axiom, SPAD is soon becoming the better Aldor. AFAIK, there is no move in opening Aldor. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5eq-0006aK-Bq - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5en-0006X8-2O - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:25 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5ej-0006VU-Ml - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:24 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk5ej-0006VN-85 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:21 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk5ej-0006bY-Kj - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:21 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 9634F68780; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:20 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 909D86B51F; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:16 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="iso-8859-1" -Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:08 -0500 -Thread-Topic: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) -Thread-Index: AccIGj3mXaVXaaT/T5aV1G5RiMrwvgAD86kg From: Bill Page To: Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) On November 14, 2006 12:01 AM Gaby wrote: -> |=20 +> | > | > From constructive mathematics point of view, the only things > | > that are required for a set are: -> | >=20 +> | > > | > (1) say how to build element of a set > | > (2) equality test. -> | >=20 -> Bill Page wrote:=20 +> | > +> Bill Page wrote: > | No, there is a lot more to the mathematics of set than that. > | It would mean that all sets are finite and that is quite far > | from the case. On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:20 PM Gaby wrote: ->=20 +> > How do you arrive to that conclusion? > @@ -39202,21 +23790,21 @@ possible if we wish to define the set of exact real numbers such as suggested by your reference below? > | Rather, sets should be strongly related to types. -> |=20 +> | > | I think the "constructive mathematics" that is most suitable > | to Axiom is probably is probably Intuitionist type theory > | (Martin-L=F6f). See: ->=20 -> In fact, I prefer the definition given by Erret Bishop. See=20 +> +> In fact, I prefer the definition given by Erret Bishop. See > chapters 1 and 2 "his" book ->=20 -> "Constructive Analysis",=20 ->=20 +> +> "Constructive Analysis", +> > Erret Bishop > Douglas Bridges ->=20 +> > From my perspective, it shows a much deeper impact. ->=20 +> When it comes to the concept of exact real numbers I think you are absolutely right but is not clear to me why you would prefer @@ -39233,41 +23821,11 @@ http://www.cs.ru.nl/~herman/PUBS/exactreals.pdf by Herman Geuvers et al. http://www.cs.ru.nl/~herman -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5zR-0003kL-6B - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:38:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5zQ-0003j5-0j - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:38:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk5zO-0003g9-5A - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:38:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk5zN-0003fn-PH - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:38:41 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk5zO-0001kf-78 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:38:42 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAELcdZl019249 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:38:40 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:39:45 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke -To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure - (was: Graph theory) - <1163527976.3259.111.camel@ellipse> -Cc: list +To: Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure(was: Graph theory) >>> Why does Axiom have distributed and recursive polynomials. >>> Mathematically it's the same thing, so why bother? @@ -39292,49 +23850,18 @@ sorted LT(p) would be a O(1) operation. I cannot think of something of that complexity for recursive polynomials if the term order is chosen to be "degree reverse lexicographical". -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk61E-0005TV-U9 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:37 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk61D-0005Pz-2h - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk618-0005KV-65 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:34 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk617-0005KI-RA - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:29 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk617-0001xw-40 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:29 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 203E46C395; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:26 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 37DEC6C359; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:23 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: src/hyper/Makefile.in Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:39 -0500 -Thread-Topic: src/hyper/Makefile.in -Thread-Index: AccILzCNwBy4o47gRWaK6XRXlx4eIwAA6W0g From: Bill Page -To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: RE: src/hyper/Makefile.in On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:50 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > ... Ill also create a branch for trying to improve the compiler. > One of my goals is to remove the requirement for ')abbrev' > commands, "extend", and better dependent types. ->=20 +> > If we have post facto extensions, I believe we can significantly > reduce the complexity of the bootstrapping process. @@ -39353,7 +23880,7 @@ supported dependent types and extend. > over the compiler. Maybe that would also give a good way to > bnatural, and better support for generic programming (good for > Axiom!). ->=20 +> If by "Spad algebra over the compiler" you mean: implementing the interpreter in SPAD rather than Boot and Lisp, then I think this @@ -39364,38 +23891,10 @@ Finally "better support for generic programming" sounds a little frightening to me, but I can't think of anyone better suited to do this than you, Gaby. :-) -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk6MQ-0002pq-GA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:02:30 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk6MO-0002pa-Lo - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:02:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk6ML-0002pB-O4 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:02:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk6ML-0002p4-IR - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:02:25 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk6ML-000543-ET - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:02:25 -0500 -Received: from [192.168.138.17] (funklan.is4all.net [194.187.177.126]) - (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAEM2LZl019808 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:02:21 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:03:26 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure On 11/14/2006 10:17 PM, Page, Bill wrote: @@ -39445,52 +23944,18 @@ And in Axiom it is an approximation anyway, since it is Set(T), ie a collection of things of a common type T. The name "Set" is probably an exception one could accept. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk6XY-0001wO-2S - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:14:00 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk6XV-0001um-Fv - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:13:57 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk6XU-0001tV-Gj - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:13:56 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk6XT-0001t9-Ou - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:13:55 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk6XT-000754-Rj - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:13:56 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 518746E897; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:13:55 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 6FB336E8DC; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:13:49 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="iso-8859-1" -Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure - (was: Graph theory) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:13:34 -0500 -Thread-Topic: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure - (was: Graph theory) -Thread-Index: AccINUg22cYbvq1ARQm0fTi1P7PgZQAAbSmw From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke, - =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vanuxem_Gr=E9gory?= Gregory Vanuxem -Cc: list +To: Ralf Hemmecke, Gregory Vanuxem +Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:40 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > Cc: Bill Page; list -> Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure=20 +> Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure > (was: Graph theory) ->=20 -> >>> Why does Axiom have distributed and recursive polynomials.=20 +> +> >>> Why does Axiom have distributed and recursive polynomials. > >>> Mathematically it's the same thing, so why bother? > > > > Bill Page wrote: @@ -39500,7 +23965,7 @@ On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:40 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > Vanuxem Gr=E9gory wrote: > > I totally disagree :-) This is a good example. I forgot where -> > and if this is the example used in the Axiom book but the=20 +> > and if this is the example used in the Axiom book but the > > authors insisted on this point. I do not think this is related > > only to the coercion to OutputForm. @@ -39511,9 +23976,9 @@ My statement about recursive polynomials in Axiom was incorrect. > > Axiom (which are, I think, the most developed areas in Axiom) > > so I can not argue about this, but some algorithms depends > > intimately on the internal representation used. ->=20 -> Think of implementing Buchberger's algorithm for multivariate=20 -> commutative polynomial rings. In order to test whether one=20 +> +> Think of implementing Buchberger's algorithm for multivariate +> commutative polynomial rings. In order to test whether one > polynomial is reducible with respect to another, one has to > access the exponent vector of the leading term. In a distributed > format with keeping the terms sorted LT(p) would be a O(1) @@ -39546,26 +24011,26 @@ http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/algebra/GdpolySpad arbitrary user ++ function to define a term ordering. -GeneralDistributedMultivariatePolynomial(vl,R,E): public =3D=3D private = +GeneralDistributedMultivariatePolynomial(vl,R,E): public == private = where vl: List Symbol R: Ring E: DirectProductCategory(#vl,NonNegativeInteger) - OV =3D=3D> OrderedVariableList(vl) - SUP =3D=3D> SparseUnivariatePolynomial - NNI =3D=3D> NonNegativeInteger + OV ==> OrderedVariableList(vl) + SUP ==> SparseUnivariatePolynomial + NNI ==> NonNegativeInteger - public =3D=3D PolynomialCategory(R,E,OV) with + public == PolynomialCategory(R,E,OV) with reorder: (%,List Integer) -> % ++ reorder(p, perm) applies the permutation perm to the = variables ++ in a polynomial and returns the new correctly ordered = polynomial - private =3D=3D PolynomialRing(R,E) add + private == PolynomialRing(R,E) add --representations - Term :=3D Record(k:E,c:R) - Rep :=3D List Term + Term := Record(k:E,c:R) + Rep := List Term ... and @@ -39586,56 +24051,26 @@ determined non-commutative, ++ but the variables are assumed to commute. -SparseMultivariatePolynomial(R: Ring,VarSet: OrderedSet): C =3D=3D T = +SparseMultivariatePolynomial(R: Ring,VarSet: OrderedSet): C == T = where - pgcd =3D=3D> PolynomialGcdPackage(IndexedExponents VarSet,VarSet,R,%) - C =3D=3D PolynomialCategory(R,IndexedExponents(VarSet),VarSet) - SUP =3D=3D> SparseUnivariatePolynomial - T =3D=3D add + pgcd ==> PolynomialGcdPackage(IndexedExponents VarSet,VarSet,R,%) + C == PolynomialCategory(R,IndexedExponents(VarSet),VarSet) + SUP ==> SparseUnivariatePolynomial + T == add --constants - --D :=3D F(%) replaced by next line until compiler support completed + --D := F(%) replaced by next line until compiler support completed --representations - D :=3D SparseUnivariatePolynomial(%) - VPoly:=3D Record(v:VarSet,ts:D) - Rep:=3D Union(R,VPoly) + D := SparseUnivariatePolynomial(%) + VPoly:= Record(v:VarSet,ts:D) + Rep:= Union(R,VPoly) ... ---------- - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7II-0002jB-Sw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:02:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7IG-0002hz-Te - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:02:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7IC-0002fp-4l - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:02:16 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk7IB-0002fT-Sk - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:02:11 -0500 -Received: from [209.86.89.66] (helo=elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk7IC-0005to-0H - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:02:12 -0500 -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; - b=eX6ccGgiy8RRC9IL6ImZiLCa7nYh2pcebvytz7mWCw6KwApbaxd9VyEoKiwrYLmF; - h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; -Received: from [68.164.152.228] (helo=clifford.harke.org) - by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) - id 1Gk7IA-0005xr-27; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:02:10 -0500 +Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:13:11 -0800 From: Richard Harke To: Camm Maguire Subject: Re: Axiom ia64 -Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:13:11 -0800 - charset="iso-8859-1" -Cc: list On Mon November 13 2006 07:29, Camm Maguire wrote: @@ -39649,40 +24084,11 @@ Do the versions for mips and alpha work? Tested? What is the relation of HEAD to 2.6.8pre? I have taken a brief look at this and am considering taking it on. -Richard - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7Z6-000845-0t - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:19:40 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7Z4-000834-FO - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:19:38 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7Yz-0007yf-KC - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:19:38 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk7Yz-0007yR-Cs - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:19:33 -0500 -Received: from [66.249.82.235] (helo=wx-out-0506.google.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk7Yz-0000G2-1M - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:19:33 -0500 -Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i30so2498151wxd - for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:19:32 -0800 (PST) -DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; - h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; - b=dlOd/Tpt21PxkZLCew0tBuSpWyqyFjmHxdRCwJ+NZxmtQ4cro8+cjJt6iZKthUHyzRXgWHSSEz7W1AzRYVI8sVlRCb58K5B4hmSjHeSogtbK2216FP/p6mUOfG9fudDucj+2uMvdysJLLREq+3is2Dyen4GgcoFokdTIrXJhBpg= -Received: by 10.70.74.7 with SMTP id w7mr1795610wxa.1163546372029; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:19:32 -0800 (PST) -Received: by 10.70.131.7 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:19:31 -0800 (PST) +\start Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:19:31 -0800 -From: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen +From: Antoine Hersen To: Martin Rubey Subject: Re: Eval in Axiom/Aldor - <9q4pt2785z.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> -Cc: axiom-developer Hello, @@ -39692,15 +24098,12 @@ more involved context) And I cant compile Martin one, maybe I should not assume that a Field is an INTDOM ... - - - On 14 Nov 2006 09:18:48 +0100, Martin Rubey wrote: > Dear Antoine, > > great to see you here! > -> "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: +> Antoine Hersen writes: > > > test(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction > > UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == { @@ -39741,104 +24144,69 @@ On 14 Nov 2006 09:18:48 +0100, Martin Rubey wrote: > In any case, the fix is probably very easy, since QuotientFieldCategory has > numer and denom. However, we should to check which definitions of "eval" should > be provided. There are so many defaults... -> -> -> -> Martin -> -> - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7x1-00028X-7W - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:44:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7wy-00027i-F9 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:44:20 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk7wx-00027V-VP - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:44:20 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk7wx-00027S-T0 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:44:19 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk7wy-0005NB-DN - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:44:20 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 79AC06BCD8; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:44:19 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 5DB3E6BD6B; - Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:44:16 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:44:16 -0500 -Thread-Topic: [TeXmacs] WinTeXmacs - Axiom problems -Thread-Index: AccEwnSj/rL9NySsQ7CXCc8O3yxYpADfFb2A From: Bill Page -To: -Cc: list, texmacs-users@texmacs.org +To: Franz Huber Subject: RE: [TeXmacs] WinTeXmacs - Axiom problems On Friday, November 10, 2006 7:19 AM Franz wrote: ->=20 -> I=B4m a WinTeXmacs user since a few days, and I=B4m using (and=20 -> needing) it only as a frontend for Axiom (latest versions:=20 +> +> I=B4m a WinTeXmacs user since a few days, and I=B4m using (and +> needing) it only as a frontend for Axiom (latest versions: > Axiom 0.1.4 and WinTeXmacs 1.0.5). ->=20 -> First I had big problems to start an Axiom session at all (I=20 -> always got the error message "Could not create pipe" in=20 -> WinTeXmacs), until I found the reason for this problem after=20 +> +> First I had big problems to start an Axiom session at all (I +> always got the error message "Could not create pipe" in +> WinTeXmacs), until I found the reason for this problem after > quite a lot of trials: -> The line =B4(:launch "tm_axiom")=B4 of the file =B4init-axiom.scm=B4=20 +> The line =B4(:launch "tm_axiom")=B4 of the file =B4init-axiom.scm=B4 > in the folder -> =B4...\WinTeXmacs\TeXmacs\plugins\axiom\progs\init-axiom.scm=B4=20 +> =B4...\WinTeXmacs\TeXmacs\plugins\axiom\progs\init-axiom.scm=B4 > doesn=B4t work! -> When I insert a space after =B4tm_axiom=B4, then it works - so=20 +> When I insert a space after =B4tm_axiom=B4, then it works - so > this line shoud be: > (:launch "tm_axiom ") ->=20 -> Ok, at least Axiom is now =B4running=B4 under WinTeXmacs as a=20 +> +> Ok, at least Axiom is now =B4running=B4 under WinTeXmacs as a > session, but it is not =B4working=B4, at least not correctly! > There are 2 main problems I=B4ve found yet: ->=20 -> 1) Since Axiom uses a space (=B4 =B4) instead of a multiplication=20 -> character (=B4*=B4) in the output, such expressions are displayed=20 +> +> 1) Since Axiom uses a space (=B4 =B4) instead of a multiplication +> character (=B4*=B4) in the output, such expressions are displayed > terribly in WinTexmacs. -> Trying e.g. "factor(15)" displays "35" in WinTeXmacs, where=20 -> of course there actually IS a space between 3 and 5, but you=20 +> Trying e.g. "factor(15)" displays "35" in WinTeXmacs, where +> of course there actually IS a space between 3 and 5, but you > can=B4t see it (since this space is too small)! > This problem is even more dramatically for variables: > Entering e.g. "x*y-xy" gives the result "xy-xy" ... ->=20 -> 2) Even correctly formatted results from Axiom are displayed=20 +> +> 2) Even correctly formatted results from Axiom are displayed > wrong in WinTeXmacs - here=B4s only one example: > Entering "xy/y" gives the following output: > y > x- > y ->=20 -> (If that=B4s not correctly displayed here, it=B4s a "x"=20 +> +> (If that=B4s not correctly displayed here, it=B4s a "x" > immediately followed by a fraction "y/y") -> Here WinTeXmacs seem to interpret "xy" as if it would be "x=20 -> y", although Axiom is correctly returning a TeX expression=20 +> Here WinTeXmacs seem to interpret "xy" as if it would be "x +> y", although Axiom is correctly returning a TeX expression > =B4xy \over y=B4! ->=20 -> So only these 2 problems are absolutely enough, to not trust=20 -> any WinTeXmacs output of Axiom results at all - maybe you can=20 -> imagine, what terribly wrong =B4results=B4 would happen for more=20 +> +> So only these 2 problems are absolutely enough, to not trust +> any WinTeXmacs output of Axiom results at all - maybe you can +> imagine, what terribly wrong =B4results=B4 would happen for more > complicated expressions ... ->=20 +> > Is there any way to solve these problems? -> Or is there a newer version of the Axiom-WinTeXmacs interface=20 +> Or is there a newer version of the Axiom-WinTeXmacs interface > (tm_axiom) available, where these bugs have been fixed? ->=20 -> Well, I hope so - otherwise we can simply forget using Axiom=20 +> +> Well, I hope so - otherwise we can simply forget using Axiom > as a WinTeXmacs session ... :-( ->=20 +> I presume that you are aware of the following page on the Axiom Wiki? @@ -39857,7 +24225,7 @@ at the top of your TeXmacs document might help: You can also set these are default by creating an environment variable - TM_AXIOM=3D'over no, space yes' + TM_AXIOM='over no, space yes' If you have problems with the Axiom verison of tm_axiom then you can also report them here: @@ -39871,65 +24239,32 @@ or on the Axiomm Developer list BTW: Welcome to Axiom. :-) We are actively looking for people to do Axiom development on Windows. Please drop in if you are interested. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk9cl-00023L-2P - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:31:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk9cj-00022T-PR - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:31:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk9ci-00022D-KK - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:31:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk9ci-00022A-H3 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:31:32 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk9cj-0003g2-17 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:31:33 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073A84F3C3; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:31:30 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAF1QTXo022823; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:26:31 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAF1QTcJ022822; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:26:29 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Bill Page -Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: - Graph theory) -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 02:26:28 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page +Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure (was: Graph theory) Bill Page writes: | On November 14, 2006 12:01 AM Gaby wrote: -| > |=20 +| > | | > | > From constructive mathematics point of view, the only things | > | > that are required for a set are: -| > | >=20 +| > | > | > | > (1) say how to build element of a set | > | > (2) equality test. -| > | >=20 -| > Bill Page wrote:=20 +| > | > +| > Bill Page wrote: | > | No, there is a lot more to the mathematics of set than that. | > | It would mean that all sets are finite and that is quite far | > | from the case. -|=20 +| | On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:20 PM Gaby wrote: -| >=20 +| > | > How do you arrive to that conclusion? | > -|=20 +| | I thought I was stating something obvious. Are you asking why I | think all sets would be finite if the only operation you require | to form sets is the ability to "build an element"? @@ -39945,29 +24280,29 @@ Why all sets would be finite. I hoenestly don't see how it is obvious. | in constructing these numbers we would be better off with at least | one more element forming operation - doubling - leading to binary | representation. -|=20 +| | However it is not clear to me that there always exists the | possibility to define a set by it's elements. For example is this | possible if we wish to define the set of exact real numbers such | as suggested by your reference below? -|=20 +| | > | Rather, sets should be strongly related to types. -| > |=20 +| > | | > | I think the "constructive mathematics" that is most suitable | > | to Axiom is probably is probably Intuitionist type theory | > | (Martin-L=F6f). See: -| >=20 -| > In fact, I prefer the definition given by Erret Bishop. See=20 +| > +| > In fact, I prefer the definition given by Erret Bishop. See | > chapters 1 and 2 "his" book -| >=20 -| > "Constructive Analysis",=20 -| >=20 +| > +| > "Constructive Analysis", +| > | > Erret Bishop | > Douglas Bridges -| >=20 +| > | > From my perspective, it shows a much deeper impact. -| >=20 -|=20 +| > +| | When it comes to the concept of exact real numbers I think you | are absolutely right but is not clear to me why you would prefer | this text in the context of set theory and Axiom. Can you explain? @@ -39980,53 +24315,21 @@ Reflecting my view that the requirement of "hash" is non-mathematical. | Exact reals for Axiom is a subject that we have previously | discussed on this list. See: -|=20 +| | http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/RealNumbers -|=20 +| | Here is a recent article on this subject. -|=20 +| | http://www.cs.ru.nl/~herman/PUBS/exactreals.pdf -|=20 +| | by Herman Geuvers et al. http://www.cs.ru.nl/~herman Thanks, I'll have a deeper look. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk9fp-0005zH-DE - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:34:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk9fo-0005x4-6g - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:34:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1Gk9fm-0005uy-Gt - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:34:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk9fm-0005uj-C9 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:34:42 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk9fn-0004WG-02 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:34:43 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA7F40FBD; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:34:40 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAF1TdPB022828; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:29:42 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAF1Tdsj022827; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:29:39 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <455A3D2E.7020901@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 02:29:39 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -40059,32 +24362,10 @@ in CPO. However, the existence of 1.. in Axiom would suggest that actually some people think of List as the greatest fixed point. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkADf-0005Q6-BA - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:09:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkADd-0005Ps-Fn - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:09:41 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkADb-0005Ow-3N - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:09:40 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkADa-0005Ob-TL - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:09:38 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkADK-0007rC-NC - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:09:22 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GkABG-0007r4-00 - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:07:14 +0100 -To: list Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:07:14 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch +To: list Subject: Typo in shoe description Index: src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet @@ -40101,36 +24382,11 @@ Index: src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet := BEC == DEF --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkAlk-0006XE-8K - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:44:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkAli-0006We-99 - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:44:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkAle-0006Tc-FD - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:44:52 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkAle-0006TI-7f; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:44:50 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) - id 1GkAlG-0003Lo-EK; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:44:26 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GkAkS-0004NR-00; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:43:36 -0500 +\start +Date: 14 Nov 2006 21:43:36 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Richard Harke Subject: Re: Axiom ia64 - <200611141513.11996.Richard Harke> -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 14 Nov 2006 21:43:36 -0500 -Cc: list, gcl-devel@gnu.org Richard Harke writes: @@ -40170,43 +24426,12 @@ The basic idea is that each section of the .o file has a got table appended to handle the relocs that refer to the special gp register value. -Take care, - -> Richard -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkAr7-0001AA-PP - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:50:29 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkAr6-00017p-2f - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:50:28 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkAr5-00016p-4o - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:50:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkAr4-00016d-Tu - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:50:26 -0500 -Received: from [67.101.227.59] (helo=intech19.enhanced.com) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkAqp-0003xS-8M - for list; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:50:11 -0500 -Received: from camm by intech19.enhanced.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) - id 1GkApd-0004Oj-00; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:48:57 -0500 +\start +Date: 14 Nov 2006 21:48:57 -0500 +From: Camm Maguire To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Axiom ia64 -From: Camm Maguire -Date: 14 Nov 2006 21:48:57 -0500 -Cc: list, Gabriel Dos Reis +Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis Greetings! @@ -40248,55 +24473,11 @@ the native relocs working, but this has taken longer than expected. It might be possible to rebind si::*load-types* at the right moment. -Thanks again! - -> -> -- -> Waldek Hebisch -> Waldek Hebisch -> -> -> - --- -Camm Maguire Camm Maguire -========================================================================== -"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkD5J-0008Br-3k - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:13:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkD5I-0008Bi-1w - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:13:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkD5G-0008BO-Nh - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:13:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkD5G-0008BL-FE - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:13:14 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkD4z-0002iV-MR - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:12:57 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D0E4F445; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:12:07 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAF577xs026865; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:07:10 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAF577lA026864; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:07:07 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +\start +Date: 15 Nov 2006 06:07:07 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Typo in shoe description -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Nov 2006 06:07:07 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -40317,45 +24498,14 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: yes, please commit. Thanks! --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkEVs-0006mp-NH - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:44:49 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkEVp-0006m3-UK - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:44:45 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkEVp-0006lf-Gq - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:44:45 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkEVp-0006lc-4L - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:44:45 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkEVo-0008UC-7V - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:44:44 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id DD9056BAE7; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:44:40 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 8FC236BADE; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:44:39 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Eval in Axiom/Aldor Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:44:24 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Eval in Axiom/Aldor -Thread-Index: AccIQ2DhQbmU4x+lRnmHuZiomAZgywAFxvTQ From: Bill Page -To: "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen -Cc: axiom-developer +To: Antoine Hersen +Subject: RE: Eval in Axiom/Aldor On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:20 PM Antoine Hersen wrote: ->=20 +> > I get nasty FOAM run time error with Ralf solution (I used it > in a more involved context) @@ -40363,7 +24513,7 @@ Ralf wrote: > Replace "eval(a, x, 1)" by > -> z: SingletonAsOrderedSet :=3D create(); +> z: SingletonAsOrderedSet := create(); > eval(numer a, z, 1)/eval(denom a, z, 1); I don't understand why Ralf introduces a new variable z. But @@ -40384,7 +24534,7 @@ Thus if Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x, F) has InnerEvalable(Symbol, Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)) then { test3(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction -UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) =3D=3D { +UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == { eval(a, x, 1) } } @@ -40404,16 +24554,16 @@ is true so one way that does work is: import from NonNegativeInteger; test1(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction -UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) =3D=3D { +UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == { eval(numer a, monomial(1$F,1),1)/eval(denom a, monomial(1$F,1),1) }; -- equivalently - test(n:UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) =3D=3D + test(n:UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == eval(n,monomial(1$F,1),1); test2(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction -UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) =3D=3D { +UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == { map(test, a) }; @@ -40425,7 +24575,7 @@ See for example: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBox7#msg20061114232755-0600@wiki.axi om-developer.org ->=20 +> > And I cant compile Martin one, maybe I should not assume that > a Field is an INTDOM ... > @@ -40439,28 +24589,28 @@ However I agree with him that QuotientFieldCategory should probably provide a default implementation of eval such as I show above and as it does now for map. ->=20 -> On 14 Nov 2006 09:18:48 +0100, Martin Rubey=20 +> +> On 14 Nov 2006 09:18:48 +0100, Martin Rubey > Martin Rubey wrote: > > Dear Antoine, > > > > great to see you here! > > -> > "Antoine Hersen" Antoine Hersen writes: +> > Antoine Hersen writes: > > > > > test(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction -> > > UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) =3D=3D { +> > > UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == { > > > eval(a, x, 1) > > > } > > > > -> > I also had problems with that. In general, I think it is=20 +> > I also had problems with that. In general, I think it is > > better to avoid UP whenever possible and use SUP instead. > > > > For your problem, one workaround is to use elt instead: > > > > test(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F)):Fraction -> > UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) =3D=3D elt(a, 1) +> > UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) == elt(a, 1) > > > > (Note that 1 refers to a Fraction UP here...) > > @@ -40475,63 +24625,31 @@ This gives the error: > > > > eval : (%,Symbol,UnivariatePolynomial(x,Integer)) -> % > > -> > does not work: it seems that it is not implemented.=20 +> > does not work: it seems that it is not implemented. > > "Fraction" takes it from "QuotientFieldCategory", which > > exports it unconditionally: > > -> > QuotientFieldCategory(S: IntegralDomain): Category =3D=3D +> > QuotientFieldCategory(S: IntegralDomain): Category == > > Join(Field, Algebra S, RetractableTo S, FullyEvalableOver S, > > DifferentialExtension S, FullyLinearlyExplicitRingOver S, > > Patternable S, FullyPatternMatchable S) > > -> > However, "QuotientFieldCategory" doesn't provide a default=20 +> > However, "QuotientFieldCategory" doesn't provide a default > > definition... I guess this should be reported on issueTracker. > > Currently I don't have the time to check this more thoroughly, > > it would be interesting to see whether the compiler issues a > > warning when compiling "Fraction". > > -> > In any case, the fix is probably very easy, since=20 +> > In any case, the fix is probably very easy, since > > QuotientFieldCategory has numer and denom. However, we > > should check which definitions of "eval" should be provided. > > There are so many defaults... > > -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkEmo-00023e-0T - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:02:18 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkEmm-00022K-4d - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:02:16 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkEmj-00020g-DL - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:02:15 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkEmj-00020Z-AW - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:02:13 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkEmh-0000j0-RN - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:02:12 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 801A66BC34; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:02:11 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 603AD6BA9C; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:02:09 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:02:02 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Ping: case insensitive filesystems -Thread-Index: AccCsyeuDwMgrFHXT0mSJweuVuYJngF0Bbug From: Bill Page -To: "Gabriel Dos Reis" Gabriel Dos Reis -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Ping: case insensitive filesystems Gaby, @@ -40546,13 +24664,13 @@ Regards, Bill Page. On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:24 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > I propose: rename capital Greek letters according to > Bill Page proposal. Adjust 'util.ht' to match (all other > hypertex pages should access Greek letters only via macros -> defined in 'util.ht'). =20 -> Next, remove 'ATX=3DB.bitmap', 'SEGBIND.ps' and 'segbind.ps'. ->=20 +> defined in 'util.ht'). +> Next, remove 'ATX=B.bitmap', 'SEGBIND.ps' and 'segbind.ps'. +> > Those changes should solve problems with duplicate filenames on > case insensitive filesystems. > @@ -40587,7 +24705,7 @@ On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:24 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: +\newcommand{\Lambda}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/Lambda-cap.bitmap}} \newcommand{\large}{} \newcommand{\ldots}{...} - \newcommand{\le}{<=3D} + \newcommand{\le}{<=} @@ -282,41 +282,41 @@ \newcommand{\nabla}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/nabla.bitmap}} \newcommand{\nu}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/nu.bitmap}} @@ -40638,45 +24756,10 @@ On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:24 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: \newcommand{\zeta}{\inputbitmap{\htbmdir{}/zeta.bitmap}} \newcommand{\bs}{\\} ---=20 -> -> Waldek Hebisch -> Waldek Hebisch=20 ->=20 - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkFec-0001qA-7M - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:57:54 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkFea-0001nr-3U - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:57:52 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkFeY-0001m0-BB - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:57:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkFeY-0001lm-0d - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:57:50 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkFeH-0002I5-Rv - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:57:34 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473E14110F; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:57:08 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAF7q5XB028955; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:52:07 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAF7q530028954; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:52:05 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Bill Page -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 15 Nov 2006 08:52:04 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems Bill Page writes: @@ -40690,42 +24773,11 @@ Yes. During the conversion, I thought I agreed with this renaming you proposed. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkFkm-0000yT-84 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:04:16 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkFkk-0000xf-F6 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:04:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkFki-0000xE-T8 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:04:14 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkFki-0000xB-OV - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:04:12 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkFkS-0003ZV-2A - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:03:56 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9724F467; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:03:26 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAF7wS7c029031; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:58:30 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAF7wSZw029030; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:58:28 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f +Date: 15 Nov 2006 08:58:27 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: src/hyper/Makefile.in -From: Gabriel Dos Reis -Date: 15 Nov 2006 08:58:27 +0100 -Cc: list Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -40742,44 +24794,12 @@ http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=30927504&forum_id=48483 Is it possible you're at a wrong local tree? --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkG4y-0004GM-C7 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:25:08 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkG4v-0004Cu-Mc - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:25:05 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkG4s-00049T-Q8 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:25:04 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkG4s-00048R-0d - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:25:02 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkG4r-0007HT-PU - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:25:01 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5DB84F3DE - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:24:55 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAF8JvZS029473 - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:19:59 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAF8JviY029472; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:19:57 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 09:19:57 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: [build-improvements] fix boottoclc description - boottoclc translates .boot files to .clisp files (and not .oclisp). -- Gaby @@ -40829,68 +24849,39 @@ boottoclc translates .boot files to .clisp files (and not .oclisp). BOOTTOCLC fn==BOOTTOCLCLINES(nil,fn) - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkI8R-0000fK-92 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:36:51 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkI8O-0000ed-EH - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:36:48 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkI8M-0000d1-3O - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:36:47 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkI8L-0000cu-Mr - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:36:45 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkI8L-0006M8-Q7 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:36:46 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 3853C6BA55; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:36:45 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 418326BA1F; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:36:43 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:36:41 -0500 -Thread-Topic: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure -Thread-Index: AccIVj08prQmxLwLQQmqHiAt4cIzIwAMrKaQ From: Bill Page -To: -Cc: +To: list Subject: RE: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure Ralf Hemmecke writes: ->=20 +> > [...] ->=20 +> > | ++ A set over a domain D models the usual mathematical notion of > | ++ a finite set of elements from D. -> |=20 +> | > | Although -> |=20 +> | > | i: Integer -> |=20 +> | > | and -> |=20 +> | > | s: FinitePowerSet T -> |=20 +> | > | would be in perfect analogy if one read ":" as "element of", then > | to go on "l: List T" would mean "List" is the container of all > | finite sequences (with some information about their representation > | (linked list)). On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:30 PM Gaby wrote: -> =20 +> > And that would match the usual definition of List as the least fixed > point of the functor ->=20 +> > X |-> 1 + X ->=20 +> > in CPO. In case anyone is wondering what Gaby is talking about, I think the @@ -40910,8 +24901,8 @@ Hopefully a future paper will deal more specifically with Axiom. :-) In Axiom List could be defined something like this - List(T:Type):ListAggregate =3D=3D add - Rep =3D=3D Union(nil,Record(first:T,rest:%)) + List(T:Type):ListAggregate == add + Rep == Union(nil,Record(first:T,rest:%)) ... (perhaps it is in Aldor?) but in fact the actual definition refers @@ -40932,10 +24923,10 @@ See also http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~pni/Papers/index.html ->=20 +> > However, the existence of 1.. in Axiom would suggest that actually > some people think of List as the greatest fixed point. ->=20 +> I don't think so. @@ -40959,39 +24950,10 @@ streams. E.g. (2) [0,1,- 1,2,- 2,3,- 3,4,- 4,5,...] Type: Stream Integer - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIbb-0002uk-L4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:06:59 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIba-0002tc-G7 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:06:58 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIbY-0002ro-Oz - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:06:58 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkIbY-0002rX-DD - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:06:56 -0500 -Received: from [140.78.116.39] (helo=athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GkIbY-0003Xi-80 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:06:56 -0500 -Received: from [193.170.38.119] (hemmecke@woodpecker.risc.uni-linz.ac.at - [193.170.38.119]) (authenticated bits=0) - by athena.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.2) with ESMTP id - kAFB6lZl010846 - (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:06:47 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:07:57 +0100 From: Ralf Hemmecke To: Bill Page -Cc: list Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure >> And that would match the usual definition of List as the least fixed @@ -41070,43 +25032,11 @@ available for Axiom, but for the underlying compilation we still need the Aldor compiler. So, Gaby, I consider Aldor-combinat a testcase for the compiler-improvements branch. ;-) -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIg4-0005fk-Ly - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:11:36 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIg3-0005fW-Pz - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:11:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIfy-0005Zw-Ts - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:11:35 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkIfy-0005Zp-QD - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:11:30 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GkIfy-0004Z6-Tv - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:11:31 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GkIfu-0005Zb-Qa; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:11:26 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GkIfu-0005Wr-OL; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:11:26 +0100 -To: Bill Page -Subject: re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical - structure -From: Martin Rubey Date: 15 Nov 2006 12:11:26 +0100 -Cc: list - +From: Martin Rubey +To: Bill Page +Subject: re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure Bill Page writes: > [...] It defines a List as the least fixed @@ -41133,44 +25063,11 @@ you'll have to read the docs. It's Ralf who made this possible, I'd like to add. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIlf-0001P8-R1 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:17:23 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIld-0001LV-4Y - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:17:21 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkIlY-0001CD-1P - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:17:18 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkIlX-0001C2-Sq - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:17:15 -0500 -Received: from [131.130.3.115] (helo=grace.univie.ac.at) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GkIlX-0005SJ-QG - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:17:16 -0500 -Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) - by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GkIlW-00068t-HK; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:17:14 +0100 -Received: from aquin.mat.univie.ac.at ([131.130.16.163] - helo=aquin.mat.univie.ac.at) - by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Martin Rubey) - id 1GkIlW-0005j1-EZ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:17:14 +0100 -To: Ralf Hemmecke -Subject: re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical - structure - <455AF50D.3010307@hemmecke.de> -From: Martin Rubey Date: 15 Nov 2006 12:17:14 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Martin Rubey +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -41187,34 +25084,11 @@ gives those recursively generated domains more structure. For example, one would maybe like to construct a specific binary tree, or take two and add them together and so on. -Martin - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJ9n-0002pc-Gw - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:42:19 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJ9m-0002pH-E2 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:42:18 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJ9k-0002mf-Ln - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:42:17 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkJ9k-0002mW-H2 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:42:16 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkJ9k-0000h0-57 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:42:16 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GkJ5Y-0007TN-00; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:37:56 +0100 -Subject: Re: src/hyper/Makefile.in -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:37:56 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis +Subject: Re: src/hyper/Makefile.in Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -41236,34 +25110,10 @@ Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: Yes, that was a local problem (probably due to NFS) -- I see correct file now. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJVf-00036B-PT - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:04:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJVc-00032M-WF - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:04:53 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJVa-0002yD-3e - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:04:50 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkJVZ-0002xj-RQ - for list; 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Two different "eval"s, where yours is probably a bit more general. I don't believe that they end up in the same implementation. -Ralf - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJs4-0005p0-Ow - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:28:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJs1-0005n3-Tf - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:28:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkJrz-0005lG-Pw - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:28:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkJrz-0005l8-Ft - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:27:59 -0500 -Received: from [136.145.54.75] (helo=mail.hpcf.upr.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps - (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GkJrz-0002bp-HY - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:27:59 -0500 -Received: (qmail 25754 invoked by uid 7797); 15 Nov 2006 12:24:55 -0000 -Received: from 70.45.40.125 by mail.hpcf.upr.edu (envelope-from - , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 - (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.4. - Clear:RC:1(70.45.40.125):. - Processed in 0.057591 secs); 15 Nov 2006 12:24:55 -0000 -Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.18.96?) - (humberto@hpcf.upr.edu@70.45.40.125) - by mail.hpcf.upr.edu with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; - 15 Nov 2006 12:24:55 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:27:53 -0400 -From: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +From: Humberto Zuazaga To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <4553DF48.2030207@hpcf.upr.edu> <4559F986.9000908@hpcf.upr.edu> - -Cc: list Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga wrote: @@ -41557,55 +25312,13 @@ passed on to make in the lsp directory A make distclean in the toplevel leaves the broken gcl in the lsp directory, so I'm deleting the whole source tree between every build. --- -Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga -Programmer-Archaeologist -UPR Bioinformatics Resource Center -http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ - - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKBr-0004mS-Lb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; 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Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:43:22 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga -Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <4553DF48.2030207@hpcf.upr.edu> <4559F986.9000908@hpcf.upr.edu> - <455B07C9.3080506@hpcf.upr.edu> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 13:43:22 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Humberto Zuazaga +Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 -Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga writes: +Humberto Zuazaga writes: [...] @@ -41616,85 +25329,54 @@ Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga writes: I'm looking into it. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKIh-0001yi-O0 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:55:35 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKIf-0001wv-Jd - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:55:33 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKIe-0001vo-IP - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:55:33 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkKIe-0001vi-Ad - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:55:32 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkKIc-0001Uz-SZ - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:55:31 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 15CCE741A2; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:55:30 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 9D9727406B; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:55:18 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" -Subject: RE: Eval in Axiom/Aldor Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:55:12 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Eval in Axiom/Aldor -Thread-Index: AccIr399pqmD6ZawS1ikgWlyQbxgvgAAWclA From: Bill Page -To: "Ralf Hemmecke" Ralf Hemmecke -Cc: axiom-developer +To: Ralf Hemmecke +Subject: RE: Eval in Axiom/Aldor -Ralf,=20 +Ralf, On Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:14 AM you wrote: ->=20 +> > >> And I cant compile Martin one, maybe I should not assume that > >> a Field is an INTDOM ... ->=20 +> > > No it not necessary to assume that a Field is an INTDOM. ->=20 +> > But it is true. ->=20 -> Field(): Category =3D=3D = +> +> Field(): Category == = Join(EuclideanDomain,UniqueFactorizationDomain, > DivisionRing) with ... -> EuclideanDomain(): Category =3D=3D PrincipalIdealDomain with ... -> PrincipalIdealDomain(): Category =3D=3D GcdDomain with ... -> GcdDomain(): Category =3D=3D IntegralDomain with ... +> EuclideanDomain(): Category == PrincipalIdealDomain with ... +> PrincipalIdealDomain(): Category == GcdDomain with ... +> GcdDomain(): Category == IntegralDomain with ... > You are right. I was not clear. I meant it is not necessary to assume it *as an additional assumption* since it is true by Axiom's definition of Field. But it is irrelevant to this problem. -=20 + > > I also don't understand Martin's workaround since Fraction does > > not export elt with this signature. ->=20 +> > But ... ->=20 +> > UnivariatePolynomial(x:Symbol, R:Ring): > UnivariatePolynomialCategory(R) with ... ->=20 -> UnivariatePolynomialCategory(R:Ring): Category =3D=3D +> +> UnivariatePolynomialCategory(R:Ring): Category == > ... > if R has IntegralDomain then > Eltable(Fraction %, Fraction %) > elt : (Fraction %, Fraction %) -> Fraction % -> ++ elt(a,b) evaluates the fraction of univariate=20 +> ++ elt(a,b) evaluates the fraction of univariate > polynomials \spad{a} > ++ with the distinguished variable replaced by b. ->=20 +> > So Martin's suggestion does not sound so wrong to me. ->=20 +> Yes. However as I said, Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x,F) does not export elt so the workaround cannot work as it was written. @@ -41702,7 +25384,7 @@ not export elt so the workaround cannot work as it was written. I tried writing: test(a:Fraction UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)):Fraction -UnivariatePolynomial(x, F) =3D=3D +UnivariatePolynomial(x, F) == elt(a,1$Fraction(UnivariatePolynomial(x, F)))$UnivariatePolynomial(x, F) @@ -41721,7 +25403,7 @@ Integer),UnivariatePolynomial(x,Fraction Integer)) -> % in the example below. This is the eval that I used in my version. -(1) -> F:=3DFRAC INT +(1) -> F:=FRAC INT (1) Fraction Integer Type: Domain @@ -41770,44 +25452,10 @@ Integer),UnivariatePolynomial(x,Fraction Integer)) -> % ... wholePart : % -> UnivariatePolynomial(x,Fraction Integer) ------------ - -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKKl-0002ra-HG - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:57:43 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKKk-0002r4-JA - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:57:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKKj-0002qQ-J1 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:57:41 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkKKj-0002qF-Ci - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:57:41 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkKKj-0002Cu-GA - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:57:41 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5914F3DE; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:57:32 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAFCqamn001269; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:52:38 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAFCqaOt001268; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:52:36 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 13:52:36 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -41848,42 +25496,10 @@ Please let separate the patches: (2) one for deletiing the redundant file -- also must contain explanation of why. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKRM-0007fe-K4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:04:32 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKRJ-0007dn-4E - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:04:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKRF-0007bj-Vv - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:04:28 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkKRF-0007bP-LM - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:04:25 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkKRD-0004QZ-Tg - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:04:24 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF3C411D8; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:04:22 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAFCxJ55001389; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:59:21 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAFCxJYB001388; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:59:19 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Ralf Hemmecke - <455AF50D.3010307@hemmecke.de> -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 13:59:18 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Ralf Hemmecke Subject: Re: FW: data structure vs. mathematical structure Ralf Hemmecke writes: @@ -41904,12 +25520,12 @@ Ralf Hemmecke writes: | > X |-> 1 + T x X | > Hopefully a future paper will deal more specifically with Axiom. :-) | > In Axiom List could be defined something like this -| > List(T:Type):ListAggregate =3D=3D add -| > Rep =3D=3D Union(nil,Record(first:T,rest:%)) +| > List(T:Type):ListAggregate == add +| > Rep == Union(nil,Record(first:T,rest:%)) | > ... | > (perhaps it is in Aldor?) but in fact the actual definition refers | > directly to the underlying Lisp architecture. -|=20 +| | I had no need to define List this way, but what about binary trees? The definition you gave is it: least fixed point of @@ -41921,21 +25537,21 @@ The interesting bit about those inductive definition is that they come with "fold" (reduce in Axiom-speak) for free. | The following code snipped is from Aldor-Combinat and it is running code. -|=20 +| | ---BEGIN test/species.as.nw | [snip] -|=20 -| testRecursive1(): () =3D=3D { +| +| testRecursive1(): () == { | macro { -| I =3D=3D EmptySetSpecies; -| X =3D=3D SingletonSpecies; -| + =3D=3D Plus; -| * =3D=3D Times; +| I == EmptySetSpecies; +| X == SingletonSpecies; +| + == Plus; +| * == Times; | } -|=20 -| A(L: LabelType): CombinatorialSpecies L =3D=3D (I + X*A*A)(L) ad= +| +| A(L: LabelType): CombinatorialSpecies L == (I + X*A*A)(L) ad= d; -|=20 +| | import from Integer, Array Integer; | checkExpOrd( | A, @@ -41943,18 +25559,18 @@ d; | [1, 1, 2, 5, 14, 42] | ); | } -|=20 +| | [snap] | ---END test/species.as.nw -|=20 +| | If you want List the line should be simply ... -|=20 -| MyList(L: LabelType): CombinatorialSpecies L =3D=3D (I + X*MyList)(L) = +| +| MyList(L: LabelType): CombinatorialSpecies L == (I + X*MyList)(L) = add; -|=20 +| | Well, but in LibAldor List is not defined as a real Union. It rather | relies on the fact that an actual record can never be the nil pointer. -|=20 +| | Oh, by the way, the above recursive definition of binary trees not | only defines the data structure but also the exponential and ordinary | generating series. So one could ask how many trees are there with 7 @@ -41963,7 +25579,7 @@ add; Yes! -|=20 +| | Recently, Martin Rubey has done some work to make Aldor-combinat | available for Axiom, but for the underlying compilation we still need | the Aldor compiler. So, Gaby, I consider Aldor-combinat a testcase for @@ -41971,32 +25587,10 @@ Yes! OK, I don't feel it like a pressure :-) :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKx2-0003in-Ue - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:37:17 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKx0-0003ga-4G - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:37:14 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkKwx-0003f9-Re - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:37:13 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkKwx-0003et-F2 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:37:11 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkKwx-00006R-Gn - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:37:11 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GkKvk-0006hA-00; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:35:56 +0100 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:35:56 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems > Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -42058,34 +25652,10 @@ I find such "explanation" silly: we have version control and change logs to keep history. And does not explain anything about the system _after_ the fix is applied. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkL89-0001Ua-70 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:48:45 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkL88-0001U5-9R - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:48:44 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkL87-0001TZ-FQ - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:48:43 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkL87-0001TG-14 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:48:43 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkL87-0003CY-AW - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:48:43 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GkL6w-000743-00; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:47:30 +0100 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:47:30 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: compiler-improvements Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: @@ -42101,43 +25671,10 @@ to avoid fuss about trivial details. For experimental work that would be deadly. And even on "release" branch I think you go too far. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkM7o-000453-CV - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:52:28 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkM7n-000442-Gv - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:52:27 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkM7k-00042E-U0 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:52:27 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkM7k-000425-Ox - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:52:24 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkM7k-0001vE-Tn - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:52:25 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FFA40ED9; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:52:22 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAFElJQf004091; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:47:21 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAFElJII004090; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:47:19 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 15 Nov 2006 15:47:18 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -42204,41 +25741,10 @@ they are no substitute for documentation files (which are the pamphlets). You're making invaluable contributions to Axiom; let's make sure we don't end up in the same trap as current system. Thanks! --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkM92-0005Qw-B4 - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:53:44 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkM90-0005Pl-Rb - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:53:42 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkM8y-0005NQ-Sz - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:53:42 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkM8y-0005NA-N7 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:53:40 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkM8y-0002Hy-KZ - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:53:40 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB174F433; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:53:30 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAFEmZn3004098; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:48:37 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAFEmZrG004097; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:48:35 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 15:48:35 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: compiler-improvements Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -42256,47 +25762,16 @@ Waldek Hebisch writes: Please, consider that you're free to make branches at any time. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkMuf-00064u-AL - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:42:57 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkMud-00064L-HB - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:42:55 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkMuc-000648-Vd - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:42:55 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkMuc-000645-Px - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:42:54 -0500 -Received: from [131.136.242.1] (helo=fw.drenet.dnd.ca) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkMud-000507-3K - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:42:55 -0500 -Received: from localhost (amavis.drenet.dnd.ca [131.136.244.251]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 64B236BA97; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:42:54 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) -Received: from corporateex02.Corporate.drdc-rddc.gc.ca (unknown [131.136.1.88]) - by fw.drenet.dnd.ca (_) with ESMTP id 8AC096BC35; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:42:51 -0500 (EST) - (envelope-from Bill Page) - charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:42:48 -0500 -Thread-Topic: Ping: case insensitive filesystems -Thread-Index: AccIxbF8NhNVLp89SMmdORbfsxkyaAAA2bgg From: Bill Page -To: Gabriel Dos Reis, "Waldek Hebisch" Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis, Waldek Hebisch Subject: RE: Ping: case insensitive filesystems On Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:47 AM Gaby wrote: -> ...=20 +> ... > Not because you can come up with a silly explanation means that -> any explanation should be silly. Please, let's keep things in=20 +> any explanation should be silly. Please, let's keep things in > perspective. > @@ -42313,7 +25788,7 @@ explanation. That is why it is so easy to write such explanation in the form of email. But we can also assign the responsibility of writing documentation based on the explanations to the 2nd person. Also they can ask important questions when the explanation -is not clear. It can be their main contribution to the work.=20 +is not clear. It can be their main contribution to the work. My suggestiong is that when we start to work on a patch, we first ask on the axiom-developer list for someone to play the role of @@ -42322,12 +25797,12 @@ bold enough to work on Axiom themselves yet to get started. Yes, I would agree to act as the 2nd person and write such documentation from time to time. :-) -=20 + > What about: ->=20 +> > There are two files for each (special) character glyph, one > for the upper case form, and one for the lower case form. -> Historically, the names for these files used to differ only in the=20 +> Historically, the names for these files used to differ only in the > first character (which is upper case for the upper case form). > That was non-portable and caused griefs on brain damaged file > systems that identify themselves as ``case preserving, case @@ -42335,16 +25810,16 @@ documentation from time to time. :-) > the same file. Consequently, the files for the upper case form > have been renamed to xxx-cap.ps, where "xxx" used to be the > historic name. ->=20 +> > ? ->=20 +> > Please feel free to elaborate/improve it. ->=20 +> Here Gaby has done a excellent job as 2nd person. If I were Waldek I would just take this and add it to the pamphlet file. :-) ->=20 +> > I'm of the opinion that you get should in the habit of including > explanation in the pamphlets when you submit them for consideration. > I would like to see the changes explained. One reason, in this @@ -42352,54 +25827,22 @@ I would just take this and add it to the pamphlet file. :-) > back to trunk (whatever it is called) there will be differences and > conflicts, and I would hate to have to spend hours in front of a > browser digging in the archive. Yes, we have ChangeLog files, but -> they are no substitute for documentation files (which are the=20 +> they are no substitute for documentation files (which are the > pamphlets). I agree. ->=20 +> > You're making invaluable contributions to Axiom; let's make sure > we don't end up in the same trap as current system. Thanks! ->=20 +> I think we can work together to make sure that does not happen. -Regards, -Bill Page. - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkN4z-0002A6-Vy - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:53:38 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkN4x-000274-0J - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:53:35 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkN4t-00021g-Le - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:53:32 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkN4t-00021O-81 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:53:31 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkN4t-0006pB-JL - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:53:31 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFC740E27; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:53:29 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAFFmPIB005599; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:48:28 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAFFmPXK005598; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:48:25 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Bill Page -From: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: 15 Nov 2006 16:48:25 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Bill Page Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems Bill Page writes: @@ -42418,32 +25861,10 @@ That would definitely increase the among of shared knowledge. OK, you're officially appointed as that second person :-) --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkN7p-0004zI-8V - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:56:33 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkN7m-0004xE-B6 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:56:30 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkN7k-0004vq-V0 - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:56:29 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkN7k-0004vJ-Ft - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:56:28 -0500 -Received: from [156.17.86.1] (helo=hera.math.uni.wroc.pl) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkN7k-0007X7-BD - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:56:28 -0500 -Received: from hebisch by hera.math.uni.wroc.pl with local (Exim 3.36 #1 - (Debian)) id 1GkN6K-0006Ka-00; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:55:00 +0100 -To: Gabriel Dos Reis Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:55:00 +0100 (CET) From: Waldek Hebisch -Cc: list +To: Gabriel Dos Reis Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems > Not because you can come up with a silly explanation means that any @@ -42502,43 +25923,10 @@ has place in documentation only if it explains _significant_ aspect of current system. In case of current filename change past status really tells you nothing about new system. --- - Waldek Hebisch -Waldek Hebisch - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNf6-00042I-Di - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:30:56 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNf4-00041N-KG - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:30:54 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNf3-00040O-0C - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:30:53 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkNf2-00040H-TO - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:30:52 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkNf2-00078m-TA - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:30:53 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB81D4F4B0; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:30:41 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAFGPlwC006942; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:25:49 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAFGPlMJ006941; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:25:47 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: Waldek Hebisch -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 15 Nov 2006 17:25:47 +0100 -Cc: list +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: Waldek Hebisch Subject: Re: Ping: case insensitive filesystems Waldek Hebisch writes: @@ -42656,48 +26044,12 @@ too. I tend to agree. Except that this is a *branch* we are going to merge back to trunk. We need to know why we did a change. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNpt-0007xs-TI - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:42:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNpq-0007uH-RC - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:42:02 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNpn-0007pf-CT - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:42:01 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkNpm-0007p8-UC - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:41:59 -0500 -Received: from [165.91.22.121] (helo=tr-2-int.cis.tamu.edu) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkMn6-0003HX-5b - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:35:09 -0500 -Received: from localhost (localhost.tamu.edu [127.0.0.1]) - by tr-2-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE22B0AC - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:35:02 -0600 (CST) -Received: from postal.cs.tamu.edu (mailhost.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.100]) - by tr-2-int.cis.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D79AEFC; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:34:53 -0600 (CST) -Received: from sun (sun.cs.tamu.edu [128.194.138.51]) - (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) - (No client certificate requested) - by postal.cs.tamu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5770846DE03; - Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:34:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:34:47 -0600 (CST) From: Gabriel Dos Reis -To: Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga +To: Humberto Zuazaga Subject: re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2 - <54mz74r8fo.fsf@intech19.enhanced.com> - <454F4ECE.1090808@hpcf.upr.edu> - - <454FDDF7.9000907@hpcf.upr.edu> - <4553DF48.2030207@hpcf.upr.edu> <4559F986.9000908@hpcf.upr.edu> - BOUNDARY="-559023410-758783491-1163604887=:20095" -Cc: Camm Maguire, list +Cc: Camm Maguire This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. @@ -42903,44 +26255,12 @@ bV9nY2xfbW1fb3B0aW9uICRheGlvbV9nY2xfeF9vcHRpb24iDQorIA0KICBB Q19TVUJTVChQTEYpDQogIEFDX1NVQlNUKENDRikNCiAgQUNfU1VCU1QoTERG KQ0K ----559023410-758783491-1163604887=:20095-- - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNq2-00088M-Fz - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:42:14 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNq0-00085L-JA - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:42:12 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkNpw-00081A-8w - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:42:09 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkNpv-00080P-HW - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:42:07 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.16.103] (helo=kraid.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkNI6-0001cU-VZ - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:07:11 -0500 -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net - [62.212.99.186]) - by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A8E410C4 - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:07:09 +0100 (CET) -Received: from zeus.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with - ESMTP id kAFG26p2006421 - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:02:08 +0100 -Received: (from gdr@localhost) - by zeus.integrable-solutions.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id - kAFG26Yb006420; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:02:06 +0100 - Gabriel Dos Reis using -f -To: list -From: Gabriel Dos Reis +\start Date: 15 Nov 2006 17:02:06 +0100 +From: Gabriel Dos Reis +To: list Subject: boottocl and boottoclc - The main difference between boottran::boottocl and boottran::boottoclc is that the latter includes the Boot codes (as comment) in translation. @@ -42962,35 +26282,10 @@ fixing boottocllines instead. If you know more about this, please let me know. --- Gaby - - - \start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkO3Q-0003Fj-Gb - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:56:04 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkO3N-0003CE-CI - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:56:01 -0500 -Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkO3K-00039w-Pb - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:56:00 -0500 -Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) - by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkO3J-000397-IM - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:55:57 -0500 -Received: from [62.4.17.103] (helo=mallaury.nerim.net) - by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GkO3J-0005OJ-PD - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:55:58 -0500 -Received: from petoncle (fmaltey.net0.nerim.net [213.41.170.4]) - by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9980A4F3E0 - for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:55:45 +0100 (CET) -Received: from fmy by petoncle with local (Exim 4.63) - (envelope-from Francois Maltey) id 1GkO3G-0001Xz-TH - for list; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:55:54 +0100 -To: list -From: Francois Maltey Date: 15 Nov 2006 17:55:54 +0100 +From: Francois Maltey +To: list Subject: )set expose add constructor doesn't expose Hello, @@ -43032,63 +26327,30 @@ There are some *.input files for testing axiom in the main axiom Makefile. How can I rerun them and compare the results between the native expand command and mine ? -Have a good day ! - -Francois - - - -\start -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkOLp-0003ao-Fg - for mharc-axiom-developer@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:15:05 -0500 -Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) - id 1GkOLn-